Amrit Vela on moon? Only once a month?
ON Greenland/North Pole ?? once a YEAR ?? what about...Mars..in SPACE ??
In Gurbani Class , we discussed 6th Pauree of Maajh ki Vaar, in which there was a mention of special techniques, auspicious Dates and times to do special tasks/ prayers etc people do to recite WAHEGURU...RAAM...GOPAL..NARAYAN..etc etc as "NAAM JAPP" ...and no sooner said than..the inevitable uqestion came up like a ??? floater... that the usual conception of "Meditating and sitting before dawn and chanting GOD's physical(?) name" would also be called under the same technique, and doing special task at special time??
"Amrit Vela" is the WORD !!! Simple but made complicated by vested interests...
and emphasized on its importance.
Now, the thing is like everybody has a different perspective of a word, and we cannot impose our opinion to others.
For a different perspective, let us see that generally for everybody 10 + 10 = 20, but if somebody, say person "X" starts saying 10 + 10 = 100, we would say either "X" doesn't know math or is an idiot... But... what if "X" knows a different Math called Binary calculations, in which 10 means 2, and 100 means 4!! So, as per general Math, 2+2=4, which is true! For my personal preference, I like Binary, as it doesn't have gray areas, and only has YES (1) or NO (0)!
Guru Sahib taught us to be aware ALL THE TIME.."AAKLEEN SAHIB SEVEAH....", and try to see what other is saying. This could be a possibility that whatever is prevailing could be another illusion?
Ok, let us come to the topic again...
I went through Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha's mahankosh (punjabi dictionary) and Prof. Sahib Singh's writings, and they too mentions that Amrit Vela means
I searched for "Amrit Vela" in Guru Granth Sahib, and found only 3 shabads (please correct if I am wrong):
1. Amrit Vela, Sach Naao, Vadeyai Veechar (Pg.2) <PAGE 2 - Punjabi Translation of Siri Guru Granth Sahib (Sri Guru Granth Darpan).> Here it means the time of full blossom, the time of enlightenment
2. Amrit Velae Vatay Har Bhagti, Har Liv Laayi (Pg 734) <PAGE 734 - Punjabi Translation of Siri Guru Granth Sahib (Sri Guru Granth Darpan).> Here, in the meanings, he meant "the ealry time of spiritual life"
3. Babiha Amrit Velae boleya <PAGE 1285 - Punjabi Translation of Siri Guru Granth Sahib (Sri Guru Granth Darpan).> Here Prof Sahib means the dawn, but I know that BrainFever bird or Babiha, shrieks all day and night before monsoon.
More, by Shaikh Fareed ji "PAGE 1383 - Punjabi Translation of Siri Guru Granth Sahib (Sri Guru Granth Darpan)."Fareeda, pichhal raat na jaageyoh, jeevadro muyeoh"
Could this mean the dawn of the life, instead of usual day's dawn??
Since, It is always wiser to look at all angles, cover all the bases.. ...and then finding the Truth, so that it cannot be shaken from any angle, my science stream students came up with this....
Usual meaning of Amrit Vela is dependent on Sun, and earth's rotation around sun, so that wherever sun-rises, the usual day-timers can do their tasks. This theory doesn't satisfy Night-time workers, say 8pm-6am workers. A truck driver cannot stop his truck on highway to do NAAM SIMRAN for 45mins at 2:45am, because 4am the sun will rise??This theory also doesn't satisfy the Astronauts! They would be looking at sun all the time for few days!! And in GREENLAND..the North Pole..the SUN NEVER SETS.for Six months..and Never RISES for the other six....so "Amrit Vela" will come only TWICE ???
The moon's rotation is such that it doesn't look like rotating at all, as we always see same side of moon towards earth. This is because the speed of moon's orbit and revolution is same! Now, when the astronauts (or future earthlings) settle down on moon, which time would they follow? Earth's or Moon's?? If they follow Moon's, the amrit vela will come once a Lunar month.
What will you do?? WHAT CAN YOU DO ?? is the better question..a DILEMMA of our own making..our own stupidity...
in A MATTER OF A FEW DECADES WE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING ON THE moon..AND MAYBE Mars..OTHER WORLDS LIE BEFORE us....AND AS WE know..gurbani is eternal truth..unassailable...ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE..TRULY universal. iTS our "dated AND MISINFORMED DISTORTIONS THAT FAIL...as they already do in SHIFT WORK, on the North Pole, and in other situations. When Gurbani was written 500 years ago..all such DIDNT EXIST..BUT neverthe elss GURBANI beign true for etwernity took care of all these...Its OUR own limited meanings that are in trouble..and we still INSIST we are RIGHT...and drag in Gurbani, Bhai Gurdass ji into OUR MUDDY HOLE we have dug for ourselves !!
The Prevailing meaning of Amrit Vela being ALWAYS three hours Before DAWN.. iS smashed to smithereeens before the ONSLAUGHT of Science, social living, spiritual love etc...
SACH is ALWAYS..TRUE.... as Guru Ji already said..AAD SACH..JUGAAD SACH...NANAK HOSEE BHEE SACH.....
SACH NEVER GETS OLD...NEVER TEARS..NEVER BREAKS..NEVER has a SPOT
No body can say with a CERTAINTY that his version of Amrit Vela is RIGHT..BUT the EVIDENCE points in a DIRECTION that declares..., prevailing meaning of Amrit Vela is not what it means!!
Its time we take a break and RELEASE our Minds to what GURBANI ACTUALLY means and PRACTISE that...Waheguru is never pleased so easily...as by FOLLOWING HIS HUKM...and LIVING LIFE as HE INTENDS....:happy::happy::happy:
ON Greenland/North Pole ?? once a YEAR ?? what about...Mars..in SPACE ??
In Gurbani Class , we discussed 6th Pauree of Maajh ki Vaar, in which there was a mention of special techniques, auspicious Dates and times to do special tasks/ prayers etc people do to recite WAHEGURU...RAAM...GOPAL..NARAYAN..etc etc as "NAAM JAPP" ...and no sooner said than..the inevitable uqestion came up like a ??? floater... that the usual conception of "Meditating and sitting before dawn and chanting GOD's physical(?) name" would also be called under the same technique, and doing special task at special time??
"Amrit Vela" is the WORD !!! Simple but made complicated by vested interests...
and emphasized on its importance.
Now, the thing is like everybody has a different perspective of a word, and we cannot impose our opinion to others.
For a different perspective, let us see that generally for everybody 10 + 10 = 20, but if somebody, say person "X" starts saying 10 + 10 = 100, we would say either "X" doesn't know math or is an idiot... But... what if "X" knows a different Math called Binary calculations, in which 10 means 2, and 100 means 4!! So, as per general Math, 2+2=4, which is true! For my personal preference, I like Binary, as it doesn't have gray areas, and only has YES (1) or NO (0)!
Guru Sahib taught us to be aware ALL THE TIME.."AAKLEEN SAHIB SEVEAH....", and try to see what other is saying. This could be a possibility that whatever is prevailing could be another illusion?
Ok, let us come to the topic again...
I went through Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha's mahankosh (punjabi dictionary) and Prof. Sahib Singh's writings, and they too mentions that Amrit Vela means
- The time of the clock before sunrise PARBHAAT as in Bahi Gurdass Jis Vaar and also Gurbani....
- The time of freedom
I searched for "Amrit Vela" in Guru Granth Sahib, and found only 3 shabads (please correct if I am wrong):
1. Amrit Vela, Sach Naao, Vadeyai Veechar (Pg.2) <PAGE 2 - Punjabi Translation of Siri Guru Granth Sahib (Sri Guru Granth Darpan).> Here it means the time of full blossom, the time of enlightenment
2. Amrit Velae Vatay Har Bhagti, Har Liv Laayi (Pg 734) <PAGE 734 - Punjabi Translation of Siri Guru Granth Sahib (Sri Guru Granth Darpan).> Here, in the meanings, he meant "the ealry time of spiritual life"
3. Babiha Amrit Velae boleya <PAGE 1285 - Punjabi Translation of Siri Guru Granth Sahib (Sri Guru Granth Darpan).> Here Prof Sahib means the dawn, but I know that BrainFever bird or Babiha, shrieks all day and night before monsoon.
More, by Shaikh Fareed ji "PAGE 1383 - Punjabi Translation of Siri Guru Granth Sahib (Sri Guru Granth Darpan)."Fareeda, pichhal raat na jaageyoh, jeevadro muyeoh"
Could this mean the dawn of the life, instead of usual day's dawn??
Since, It is always wiser to look at all angles, cover all the bases.. ...and then finding the Truth, so that it cannot be shaken from any angle, my science stream students came up with this....
Usual meaning of Amrit Vela is dependent on Sun, and earth's rotation around sun, so that wherever sun-rises, the usual day-timers can do their tasks. This theory doesn't satisfy Night-time workers, say 8pm-6am workers. A truck driver cannot stop his truck on highway to do NAAM SIMRAN for 45mins at 2:45am, because 4am the sun will rise??This theory also doesn't satisfy the Astronauts! They would be looking at sun all the time for few days!! And in GREENLAND..the North Pole..the SUN NEVER SETS.for Six months..and Never RISES for the other six....so "Amrit Vela" will come only TWICE ???
The moon's rotation is such that it doesn't look like rotating at all, as we always see same side of moon towards earth. This is because the speed of moon's orbit and revolution is same! Now, when the astronauts (or future earthlings) settle down on moon, which time would they follow? Earth's or Moon's?? If they follow Moon's, the amrit vela will come once a Lunar month.
What will you do?? WHAT CAN YOU DO ?? is the better question..a DILEMMA of our own making..our own stupidity...
in A MATTER OF A FEW DECADES WE ARE GOING TO BE LIVING ON THE moon..AND MAYBE Mars..OTHER WORLDS LIE BEFORE us....AND AS WE know..gurbani is eternal truth..unassailable...ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE..TRULY universal. iTS our "dated AND MISINFORMED DISTORTIONS THAT FAIL...as they already do in SHIFT WORK, on the North Pole, and in other situations. When Gurbani was written 500 years ago..all such DIDNT EXIST..BUT neverthe elss GURBANI beign true for etwernity took care of all these...Its OUR own limited meanings that are in trouble..and we still INSIST we are RIGHT...and drag in Gurbani, Bhai Gurdass ji into OUR MUDDY HOLE we have dug for ourselves !!
The Prevailing meaning of Amrit Vela being ALWAYS three hours Before DAWN.. iS smashed to smithereeens before the ONSLAUGHT of Science, social living, spiritual love etc...
SACH is ALWAYS..TRUE.... as Guru Ji already said..AAD SACH..JUGAAD SACH...NANAK HOSEE BHEE SACH.....
SACH NEVER GETS OLD...NEVER TEARS..NEVER BREAKS..NEVER has a SPOT
No body can say with a CERTAINTY that his version of Amrit Vela is RIGHT..BUT the EVIDENCE points in a DIRECTION that declares..., prevailing meaning of Amrit Vela is not what it means!!
Its time we take a break and RELEASE our Minds to what GURBANI ACTUALLY means and PRACTISE that...Waheguru is never pleased so easily...as by FOLLOWING HIS HUKM...and LIVING LIFE as HE INTENDS....:happy::happy::happy:
