Thanks.I cannot speak for swamis who do the twist. However, the classical Hindu dance forms are ancient and historically were performed in only in religious spaces like temples. Only recently have they become associated with YouTube and theater performances. Shiva has been depicted as dancing to destroy old and worn out forms within the universe and clear the way for Brahma to begin the process of recreation. He is sometimes depicted as the Lord who is dancing in the flames, signaling new beginnings. Vishnu also dances to represent the cohesive force of the deity, holding creation together in his dance.
A comprehensive review of classical dance forms at this link http://hinduism.about.com/gi/o.htm?...&tt=14&bt=0&bts=1&zu=http://www.narthaki.com/
So this is a continuation of tradition. Nothing in the YouTubes seem to be representative of classical Hindu dance forms imho. More like swami'spiration.
Does it apply in this instance? I believe it does.
It depends...
). . Its safe to say that if it wasn't "working" for them. They wouldn't be doing it. But its been working for them for this long so there must be something (however small or insignificant) to it. It is not completely meaningless then. Lol But I guess "almost meaningless" is no consolation.
I dont think the part about "Actions are louder then words" is actually in the gurbani is it? It would seem odd for the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to contain an english idiom
This was partly a shameless plug for Radiohead's new album. But if you look at the video for his new song the parrallels with the videos being posted in this thread are almost uncanny aren't they? (Anyone else a fan of Radiohead? )
caspian ji very well stated.From the science angle
It depends...
If we are talking about altered states of consciousness akin to meditation. Then from a scientific point of view—It wouldn't really apply. There is evidence that uttering "nonsense" can induce the same mental states that uttering meaningful prose induces. There are many schools of meditation that focus on uttering nonsense. (Perhaps the christian tradition of Speakin in Tongues is the most notable one, But I am only aware of Hindu and Buddhist schools of meditation that utilize "nonsense" and unlike christians—They will freely admit its nonsense
But I'm not sure if the above quote is in reference to practices of meditation in general (For example, comparing sikh meditation to other forms of meditation).
Or whether the above quote talks about the difference between understanding and meditating. Which I talked about in a previous post. And the futility of empty prayer over action?
(In this case the act of meditation is looked down upon even if it produces an effect because it is baseless without an understanding. And its kind of obvious how Action would be better then praying for Action)
BTW. The way in which dance and singing work is kind of like inducing sensory deprivation via sensory overload. If that makes sense? Just thought I would add to what Amarpal said.
With regards to the video
: Admin please delete the following quoted text if it appears as repeated material and out of context, Thanks),Sat Sri Akal.http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-...low-readings-and-meditation-8.html#post141990
Anything is possible. By shouting and through noise you basically are doing the following,
- Shutting down senses
- Shutting down your ears
- Shutting down your speech engine with repetition
- Closing your eyes you essentially shut down your vision
- If you are clapping, etc., or jumping or swaying you are shutting down your sensory feelings of touch
- Smell is generally shut down once you are in stable environment with whatever the smell is around if no changes are taking place during the exercise
YouTube - My Grey Parrot saying ALLAH HO ALLAH HO
- Now you are in La La land and you can call it meditation or give it other names
- It is just a feeling what happens when all senses are shut down and brain is left alone, more or less
- There of course may be benefits from all this but I don't have any personal experiences to share but perhaps it is no different than the following videos
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YouTube - one more Lion Says Allah.Cooool!
spnadmin ji (the much appreciated, well written and learned one thanks for your guidance),
we suck at that) but it is strong in that is most often associated with the emotional centers in the brain. Indeed, the sense of smell is the closest sense to the brain region for emotion.
