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<blockquote data-quote="BhagatSingh" data-source="post: 171799" data-attributes="member: 2610"><p><u><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Bani of Sant Kabir Das</span></u><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">, Shabad #2, is at the end of Page 92</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Introduction: The first shabad was a complete lesson on it's own. In the second Shabad, Sant Kabir describes his experience with the Divine.</span></span><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Documentary on Kabir</span></span> <span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><a href="http://www.petermalakoff.com/kabirmovie.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">http://www.petermalakoff.com/kabirmovie.html</span></a></span> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸ੍ਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀਉ ਕਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">Sri Raag of Bhagat Kabir ji.</span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਚਰਜ ਏਕੁ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਰੇ ਪੰਡੀਆ ਅਬ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਹਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">Listen oh Pandit, there is One Wonder that cannot be described.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Background: But Kabir still goes on to describe it.</span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਰਿ ਨਰ ਗਣ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਜਿਨਿ ਮੋਹੇ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਮੇਖੁਲੀ ਲਾਈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">Heavenly Beings, Mortals, the celestial singers, the dwellers of the Three worlds: Heaven, Earth and Netherworld, are all roped to attachment. 1.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">The celestial singers sing for the Heavenly Beings, the Devtas.</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਾਜਾ ਰਾਮ ਅਨਹਦ ਕਿੰਗੁਰੀ ਬਾਜੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">The meditation of King Ram is like the Unstruck melody of the <a href="http://musicoutfitters.com/ethnic/images/vend.jpg" target="_blank">Kinguri</a>.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਾ ਕੀ ਦਿਸਟਿ ਨਾਦ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੈ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਹਾਉ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">By His kind gaze, we are attuned to the shabad of the Guru, Naad, that celestial sound-silence. Think about this.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Kinguri is a musical instrument. To understand the unstruck melody of the Kinguri, we need to ask ourselves, "What is the sound of Kinguri if it is not struck?" It is like a Zen Koan, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" and like a Zen Koan, it is solved by meditating on the question.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਾਠੀ ਗਗਨੁ ਸਿੰਙਿਆ ਅਰੁ ਚੁੰਙਿਆ ਕਨਕ ਕਲਸ ਇਕੁ ਪਾਇਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤਿਸੁ ਮਹਿ ਧਾਰ ਚੁਐ ਅਤਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਰਸ ਮਹਿ ਰਸਨ ਚੁਆਇਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">My Dasam Duar is the distilling fire, containing a golden pot, into which drips a gentle stream of the purest essence, through the Ida and Pingala energy channels, which I taste with my tongue (when it utters "Ram"). 2.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">The word translated as essence is </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ਰਸ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">, whose exact translation is "juice". Hence Kabir describes the whole thing as tasting this juice/essence.</span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਏਕ ਜੁ ਬਾਤ ਅਨੂਪ ਬਨੀ ਹੈ ਪਵਨ ਪਿਆਲਾ ਸਾਜਿਆ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">What is wonderful is that, I have turned my breath into a pot for collecting this essence. </span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੀਨਿ ਭਵਨ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੋ ਜੋਗੀ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਵਨੁ ਹੈ ਰਾਜਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">In the three, worlds, there is only one such Yogi, to which no King can be compared.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Is Kabir calling himself the only Yogi in the Three Worlds, i.e. bragging? No, he is stating his experience. The word Yog, </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">ਜੋਗ</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">, means </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen">Union</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: DarkGreen"> of consciousness with Ultimate Consciousness. Kabir is saying, "Through my practice of tasting the essence through the breath, I have united with the Ultimate Consciousness, with the Divine, something more precious than being a ruler of a kingdom. I have, in my essence, become the ruler of all three worlds." </span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਐਸੇ ਗਿਆਨ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਿਆ ਪੁਰਖੋਤਮ ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਰੰਗਿ ਰਾਤਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">This knowledge of the Superior Man (King Ram) has been revealed. Says Kabeer, I am absorbed in His love.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅਉਰ ਦੁਨੀ ਸਭ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਨੀ ਮਨੁ ਰਾਮ ਰਸਾਇਨ ਮਾਤਾ </span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy">He says, while, the rest of the world is living in ignorance (of Ram), and has forgetten it's true essence</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: Navy"> (Ram), my mind is intoxicated with Ram, that source of all essences. 4.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> <u><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Summary</span></u></p><p> <span style="color: Navy"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The entire world is hostage to their attachments. It is through Ram's grace that we become attuned to the Guru's shabad. Being attuned, we are led into a meditation, where the essence of all things becomes known.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: DarkRed"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><u><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Questions</span></u></span> <span style="color: DarkRed"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">How can we know Ram for ourselves and shed our ignorance?</span></span> <span style="color: DarkRed"> </span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Kabir calls himself a Yogi. Is Kabir's description of meditation a practice like raising the Kundalini or a metaphorical description?</span></span> <span style="color: DarkRed"> </span></p><p><span style="color: DarkRed">What message is Kabir trying to convey to the Pandit, a religious scholar, who is already familiar with Kabir's philosophy? </span><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"><a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39118-bani-of-sant-kabir-das-1-a.html" target="_blank">Bani of Sant Kabir Das 1</a></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkGreen"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BhagatSingh, post: 171799, member: 2610"] [U][FONT=Verdana]Bani of Sant Kabir Das[/FONT][/U][FONT=Verdana], Shabad #2, is at the end of Page 92 [COLOR=DarkGreen] Introduction: The first shabad was a complete lesson on it's own. In the second Shabad, Sant Kabir describes his experience with the Divine.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=DarkGreen] [FONT=Verdana]Documentary on Kabir[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkGreen] [URL="http://www.petermalakoff.com/kabirmovie.html"][FONT=Verdana]http://www.petermalakoff.com/kabirmovie.html[/FONT][/URL][/COLOR] [FONT=Raavi]ਸ੍ਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਭਗਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀਉ ਕਾ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]Sri Raag of Bhagat Kabir ji.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਅਚਰਜ ਏਕੁ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਰੇ ਪੰਡੀਆ ਅਬ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਹਨੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]Listen oh Pandit, there is One Wonder that cannot be described.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen]Background: But Kabir still goes on to describe it.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਰਿ ਨਰ ਗਣ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਜਿਨਿ ਮੋਹੇ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਮੇਖੁਲੀ ਲਾਈ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]Heavenly Beings, Mortals, the celestial singers, the dwellers of the Three worlds: Heaven, Earth and Netherworld, are all roped to attachment. 1. [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Raavi][COLOR=DarkGreen] [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen]The celestial singers sing for the Heavenly Beings, the Devtas.[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Raavi] ਰਾਜਾ ਰਾਮ ਅਨਹਦ ਕਿੰਗੁਰੀ ਬਾਜੈ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]The meditation of King Ram is like the Unstruck melody of the [URL="http://musicoutfitters.com/ethnic/images/vend.jpg"]Kinguri[/URL].[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਜਾ ਕੀ ਦਿਸਟਿ ਨਾਦ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੈ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੧[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]ਰਹਾਉ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]By His kind gaze, we are attuned to the shabad of the Guru, Naad, that celestial sound-silence. Think about this.[/COLOR] [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen]Kinguri is a musical instrument. To understand the unstruck melody of the Kinguri, we need to ask ourselves, "What is the sound of Kinguri if it is not struck?" It is like a Zen Koan, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" and like a Zen Koan, it is solved by meditating on the question.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਭਾਠੀ ਗਗਨੁ ਸਿੰਙਿਆ ਅਰੁ ਚੁੰਙਿਆ ਕਨਕ ਕਲਸ ਇਕੁ ਪਾਇਆ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਤਿਸੁ ਮਹਿ ਧਾਰ ਚੁਐ ਅਤਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਰਸ ਮਹਿ ਰਸਨ ਚੁਆਇਆ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]My Dasam Duar is the distilling fire, containing a golden pot, into which drips a gentle stream of the purest essence, through the Ida and Pingala energy channels, which I taste with my tongue (when it utters "Ram"). 2.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen] The word translated as essence is [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Raavi][COLOR=DarkGreen]ਰਸ[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen], whose exact translation is "juice". Hence Kabir describes the whole thing as tasting this juice/essence.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਏਕ ਜੁ ਬਾਤ ਅਨੂਪ ਬਨੀ ਹੈ ਪਵਨ ਪਿਆਲਾ ਸਾਜਿਆ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]What is wonderful is that, I have turned my breath into a pot for collecting this essence. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਤੀਨਿ ਭਵਨ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੋ ਜੋਗੀ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਵਨੁ ਹੈ ਰਾਜਾ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]In the three, worlds, there is only one such Yogi, to which no King can be compared.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen]Is Kabir calling himself the only Yogi in the Three Worlds, i.e. bragging? No, he is stating his experience. The word Yog, [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Raavi][COLOR=DarkGreen]ਜੋਗ[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen], means [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen]Union[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkGreen] of consciousness with Ultimate Consciousness. Kabir is saying, "Through my practice of tasting the essence through the breath, I have united with the Ultimate Consciousness, with the Divine, something more precious than being a ruler of a kingdom. I have, in my essence, become the ruler of all three worlds." [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਐਸੇ ਗਿਆਨ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਿਆ ਪੁਰਖੋਤਮ ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਰੰਗਿ ਰਾਤਾ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]This knowledge of the Superior Man (King Ram) has been revealed. Says Kabeer, I am absorbed in His love.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Raavi]ਅਉਰ ਦੁਨੀ ਸਭ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਨੀ ਮਨੁ ਰਾਮ ਰਸਾਇਨ ਮਾਤਾ [/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੪[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]He says, while, the rest of the world is living in ignorance (of Ram), and has forgetten it's true essence[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy] (Ram), my mind is intoxicated with Ram, that source of all essences. 4.[/COLOR][/FONT] [U][FONT=Verdana]Summary[/FONT][/U] [COLOR=Navy][FONT=Verdana]The entire world is hostage to their attachments. It is through Ram's grace that we become attuned to the Guru's shabad. Being attuned, we are led into a meditation, where the essence of all things becomes known.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkRed] [U][FONT=Verdana]Questions[/FONT][/U][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkRed] [FONT=Verdana]How can we know Ram for ourselves and shed our ignorance?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkRed] [FONT=Verdana]Kabir calls himself a Yogi. Is Kabir's description of meditation a practice like raising the Kundalini or a metaphorical description?[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkRed] What message is Kabir trying to convey to the Pandit, a religious scholar, who is already familiar with Kabir's philosophy? [/COLOR][COLOR=DarkGreen] [URL="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/guru-granth-darpan/39118-bani-of-sant-kabir-das-1-a.html"]Bani of Sant Kabir Das 1[/URL] [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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