Re: Answers to the issues raised by Gyani Bhag Singh Ji on the verses unto Tenth Mast
Then he gives references to verse 11 of Character 312,
Verse 3,4,24 and 25 of Character 242
And Character 366’s verse 7 and 8
Let us see. Story 242.
It is the story of a wife and daughter of money lender who after getting attached to the king wants to sleep with her. King after knowing that says that it is OK but she has to kill her husband. As they indulge in adultery her husband comes. She kills him. Then to the public she tells that he has died of drowning and has he knew how to swim he would have been saved. She says that now rest of her widowhood she will spend in devotion and in seclusion. People since that she is doing what she said but instead she was staying with the king. Well secret behind some widows saying to live in seclusion could be immoral life. Here this secret is exposed to public so it is not the encouragement of such tact but info about the same to the general public or Sikhs about being aware of such dirty reality.
Verse 24 and 25 do not exist in this story. Shame on writer.
3 and 4 are given.
One was Shabimanmanjari the daughter of the money lender. As if the image of moon appeared in world. When she saw King Chhatraketu. As if know that happened (that) camper (after) pulling(the string of ) bow shot an arrow..3..
She after seeing king happened under the control of camphor(lust). She forgot the social customs and respect of the family. She was stung by arrow of separation and was astonished. As if a wasp gets entangled with flower..4..
So just for the sake of writing writer spreads falsehood.
Das will himself gives an interpretation of verse 13 .
She will call the king home.
Earn the utilization(bhog) verily believing the benefit.
Will keep strict hold in two thighs.
Greedily will do indulgence with him..13..
Will keep strict hold in thighs may mean will hold her own thigh to control the passionate emotions in waiting for paramour. Or it is holding the thighs of paramour in request or in surrender.
Coming to 312.
This the story of a young prince who was taught by person called Ram from Bairagi/detached sect of Hindu. Once a wife of jaat(farmer) saw him and wanted to sleep with him. He did not pay any heed to her. Then she took a guise of occultist yogi . And did impress him with many occult( as we see that she is not an occultists yet showing them, this only means that occult is mere an eyewash or fooling the viewer with so called magical trick which viewer thinks as a miracle). She also gains his confidence and steals the wealth of house(here it exactly means she took away wealth by telling him to donate her in occult etc.) Once she told him that she wants to show him rising of dead in cremation ground. He was happy to know that and after thinking so went alone with her, without taking any arms or weapon. He did not understood her deception. In Jungle on the threat of death she rapes him/forces herself on him.
Fact is that these Vamargis(who go to cremation ground and do occult(Jantra or Mantra are written there) are not the only one but even dakshin margis saints also abuse the children sexually sometime being homosexual also. Some so called Saints or Holy men in Sikhs also ,we can not say are of high character. This a clear cut case of Guru’s telling us to not to trust occultists. Reason for taking wife of jatt as rapist is also very deep. Jaats being of good built(due to race doing labour intensive farming for ages) could easily overpower an unarmed young man. The term which is used in verse 11 is used because the character is from farmer community and this is the exact terminology they use in villages. It is appearing vulgar to the writer as he is untouched with the rural culture.
So here we do translation of last three verses.
Saying of lady. Either fool leave the hope of life.
Either behold interest and utilize me/sleep with me.
Either I cut you into seven part.
Either you give move of your male reproductive organ into area surrounded by my female reproductive organ..11..
Prince was frightened a lot.
Did utilized the lust with her.
She decived him this this deception.
She was able to utilize the detached lord..12..
No one could get the end of ladies.
After creating Brahma again got regret(he had an eye on his daughter and there is another story where we find him deceived by lady).One who created/did this whole world. That only is capable of recognizing the secret of lady..13.1.
Here term Haroo is used for defeat while haro or har is also used to capability while we have term Kaj Swaran Har ie capable to improve the task. Other examples are
(੭-੫, ਜਪੁ, ਮ ੧)
ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਵੇਖੈ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰੁ ॥
kar kar vaekhai sirajanehaar ||
Having created the creation, the Creator Lord watches over it.
(Ang 7)
Term indri is used for male preporductive organ in Shri Guru Granth Sahib and Shri Dasham Granth Sahib also.
But here we have term which is used by rural/semiliterate/ illiterate/ or class with poverty. Term is used by deprived and tribal but Scythian tribes living with Dravidians has shown here usage of this language. This is true as in villages farmers do live nearer to outcastes then say urban upper castes from which writer is proven to be.
Line is transliterated also.
Kai Tuhi Kati Karo Sat Khanda.
Kai De Mori Bhag Bekhai Landa..11..
Going to story 366.
Lines 7 and 8.
Das will only translate them later but let us see the story.
There are queen and king. And their daughter is there. Once prince comes to their area while hunting. Princess likes the prince and calls him home, they sleep together.
In the morning while they are about the awake her father comes as maid tells her. She tells her father that she has made a feast of Brahmin priests. So he should first take bath before entering. As king takes dip in water, she makes her lover run away.
Few things we get.
- King use to call himself clever and himself did not use cannabis
- His daughter was not his control and has used cannabis, poppy opium etc.
- In the name of feast t Brahmin and Sucham(ritualistic cleanliness) ,there has been immoral acts being done. So not to trust person who shows keen interests in Brahmanaical acts as such person could be immoral. A person who trust such person ins a fool even if he does not take drugs.
So lines given.
In the four parts of night did pleasure.
Leaving the fear of mother and father.
Got poppy, cannabis,opium etc. brought.
Setting on one bed both took (intoxication) of that..7..
When in the pleasure of drug.
They both met and did play.
Body took various postures/seats.
Many types of oral contacts and embracings ..8..
The became tired and intoxicated.
Slept with eyes not closed.
In morning her father came.
Maid went and woken her up.9ss.
