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I will load this post with links for your reading. I enjoyed reading through them myself a while ago.

 Dualism in the west is used for mind-brain (in psychology), subject-object (in philosophy) dualism. In the east, we use to mean all of the dualities of the world such as night-day, male-female, good-bad, the most fundamental and important duality to overcome is soul-God duality. In Non-dualism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita_Vedanta), the soul IS God and vice-verse, absolutely no difference! None. One of it's most famous proponent was Adi Shankara.


The line of thought in Sikhism originally comes from Qualified Non-Dualism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishishtadvaita). The soul is God but has separated from Him, and the idea is to merge back to be God again. So the soul is God but there's a qualifier, only when it attains liberation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramanuja taught this philosophy, and he influenced some of the early Bhagats in Sikhism, who then influenced later ones.


We talked about Madhvacharya and Dualism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvaita) already.

Notice in the painting he is holding two fingers up. He says that essentially (in reality) soul-God are different, male-female are different, day -night are different. They are not one and the same (like the other two would say) but two distinct entities.


There were two videos I posted in a  reply to Confused ji, do take a look at those as well. Shin Zen young, Robert Thurman and Deepak Chopra are all great speakers. The former two are Buddhist. The latter is Hindu.


My reading leads me to conclude those quotes/teachings are dualism in essence. Yes God is everywhere for the dualists. He is present is us and in the world. Wherever we look we may see Him but ultimately He is separate from us. We cannot be Him, only have good relations with Him as we do with another being. This is the vibe I am getting from your elaboration and the quote. I have not read the entire canon so maybe other parts are non-dualist, who knows but clearly the essence is dualism. But I remember you said some mystics were perscecuted by the Church, this maybe so because they might believe in a Non-Dual reality, and the Church sees Christ's message as Dualist.


This is Dualism. God is transcendent and immanent is actually part of both Non-Dualism and Dualism but their claim to essential reality is different.


Non-Dualism would say we are in Essence God Himself. "Aham atma.. (I am the soul)"  said God in Bhagwad Gita.


Ambarsaria ji,

Beautifully put.


PS vouthon ji,

Remember, just be honest if you ever do become enlightened.


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