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I dont want to dig out the Post again - but I still do not understand/comprehend why so much people vote " No, I don't believe in reincarnation or transmigration" , as per Guru Granth Sahib. There is no reasioning or quotation from anyone that Gurbani disapproving the point of reincarnation.  Much people say that mostly the argumentation goes against the Vedasis at that time etc.. But where are the sources or the ANGS of Guru Granth Sahib ji?  Here are some of my views...  I am sorry that I could not post whole Shabad as I am still learning.. much to do... yeah..



I'm interested to hear the views of members around reincarnation and Sikhi.

 

I often reference the late Dr Baldev Singh  ji's article 'Nanakian Philosophy (Gurmat)' which you can access in the  January-February 2009 edition of The Sikh Bulletin here: http://sikhbulletin.com/Bulletins/Si...JanFeb2009.pdf Particularly page 33 'Karma and Reincarnation'.

 


 

Here's a snippet, aplogies about the formatting but I don't seem to be able to correct it:

 Our Gurus used the terminologies of other religions but their

meanings are not necessarily the same in the AGGS. There

are frequent references to Hindu and Muslim beliefs and

practices as the Gurus’ audience was made up of Hindus and

Muslim, but the Gurus did not endorse or accept their beliefs

or practices. There are expressions like 

aavan jaanaavai jaavai,janam janam,

jamai marai and bhavayaiwhich are

often interpreted as cycle of birth and death or cycle of  transmigration. However, in the AGGS, these expressions are used as metaphors for spiritual (moral) degeneration and

regeneration human beings experience in their lives or pain

and suffering or being entrapped in ignorance and falsehood

or wandering aimlessly or they represent the Hindu belief of

reincarnation/transmigration. Besides, there are other words

and terms that are often misunderstood and misinterpreted

like:




poorab means past, not one’s previous life;


 

poorab janam means past generations, not



one’s previous birth, jeev jeev mue or jeevat mare 

means control of Haumaimue jeevameans transformation of manmukh to gurmukhjo


 

tis bhaavai means according to Hukam, and God’s Will mean Hukam.

 

Further as discussed in Chapter 1, Guru Nanak rejected the caste system categorically, so why would he accept the concept of karma and reincarnation /transmigration that was invented to justify the caste system?




Sorry evertime I read differnt opinions , I start reading Bani in differnt way - and that just keeps confusing me - I wouldr eally love to discuss this in depth further and compare it to Bani wth quotations etc...


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