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I have just read the thread on Mecca, the impression I now get of Creator is not that of an energy that needs to impress anyone with a magic show, Creator made the rules, and Creator respects those same rules, anything less would be hypocritical, everything that has taken place, everything that will happen, if what we believe in to be true, is beautiful, mystical, logical, explainable, there are two sides to the coin, there are a million sides to the coin, a lack of mumbo jumbo makes things clearer, achievable, dispels the need for faith, faith is for miracles and the unexplainable, faith bridges the gap between what we know, and what we do not understand, better to work on understanding more than trying to deepen your faith, in my humble opinion