You are missing the point I am making.
Sikhi talks about something bigger than us, but is it saying "God" in the sense other religions see it.
Even "Waheguru" is Wondrous Teacher !!
Like I stated above, the concept of "God" in Sikhi is waaaaaaaaay different from any other concepts or maybe even the concept of "God" as Sikhs understand it.
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Randip Singh ji
For some time I have done a similar contemplation. The concept of God as in other religions is different from Sikhee.
Three words are important in this respect.
Sargun- with attributes (attributed)
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Nirgun -attributeless (unattributed)[/FONT]
Nirankar- both formless and also formed[/FONT]
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( Nirankaar aakaar aap nirgun sargun ayk.
[/FONT]He Himself is formless and also formed; the One Lord is without attributes and also with attributes.[/FONT]
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God in Sikhee appears to be conceived as Nirankar being without form meaning all existence is God's visible form, but no part of it is a substitute for God. God is also Nirguna and sargun.Often our soul is said to be nirgun.
From Ek Ongkar has come Nirankar then Nirgun / Sargun aspects of creation. The Shabad is coming is coming from Nirankar and is the creative force.
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ਉਤਪਤਿਪਰਲਉਸਬਦੇਹੋਵੈ॥
outhapath paralo sabadhae hovai ||
Creation and destruction happen through the Word of the Shabad.
ਸਬਦੇਹੀਫਿਰਿਓਪਤਿਹੋਵੈ॥
sabadhae hee fir oupath hovai ||
Through the Shabad, creation happens again
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ਸੁਸਬਦਕਉਨਿਰੰਤਰਿਵਾਸੁਅਲਖੰਜਹਦੇਖਾਤਹਸੋਈ॥
s sabadh ko niranthar vaas alakhan jeh dhaekhaa theh soee ||
That Shabad dwells deep within the nucleus of all beings. God is invisible; wherever I look, there I see Him.
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Let us look at some [/FONT]
different prevailing beliefs about God and creation.
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Religions portray GOD as transcendent -existing above and beyond the material world , as immanent - present within the material world or both. [/FONT]
God is characterized as follows:[/FONT]
Animism: [/FONT]
A belief in a multitude of spiritual beings that either help or harm. So these are to be appeased. [/FONT]
Dualism: A [/FONT]
belief in two supreme Gods that are in opposition to each other. Good and Evil.[/FONT]
Deism[/FONT]
: A belief that God transcended creation after creating the universe. The universe is functioning in accordance with laws and God does not involve himself in the affairs of universe.[/FONT]
Monotheism[/FONT]
: A belief that there is just one God. [/FONT]
Pantheism[/FONT]
: A belief that the universe, with its substances, laws and forces, is an emanation of God. The creator is identified with the creation. All is God and God is all.[/FONT]
Panentheism: A[/FONT]
modification of pantheism, insisting that God is the essence of life within creation but is not manifested as creation. All is in God and God is in all.
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Polytheism[/FONT]
: A belief in the existence of many gods with each god unique . Gods for personality trait. Gods for many facet of nature.[/FONT]
Theism : A[/FONT]
belief in a God that is transcendent, immanent and caring for those in the world. God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent in theism. He is perfect, even though evil exists in the world. Being a personal God often intervenes in the affairs of men. The life of creation is a gift of God and not a manifestation of God[/FONT]
Christianity, Islam and Judaism are, monotheistic with some differences. Such as do not subscribe to either pantheism or panentheism.[/FONT]
Sikhism is an exception. It stands for monotheism but with a modified panentheistic stance on creation. All is in God. God is in All. All is God. ---- Ekoooo[/FONT]
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What diverse views. No wonder a Guru is needed.
The Shabad as is in Sikhism, is not seen in other religions (as for as I could find it). For the Sikhs the Shabad Guru individually guides and is ever with everyone.[/FONT]
A thought comes that is Shabad Guru for the Sikhs is same as Personal God for many others. This view requires a thinking.
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