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Message: <blockquote data-quote="findingmyway" data-source="post: 150704" data-attributes="member: 12855">Confused ji, I find your comments confusing in this case and I do see a strong Buddhist way of thinking. Every form of life is naturally geared for survival-thats why all biological processes have evolved the way they have. A spinach plant or potato plant wants to survive as much as a cow or dog or human. Just because humans do not have the capacity to perceive this with their own senses does not make it untrue and I think it is a very egotistical attitude to take – similar to the attitude of Romans who thought the Earth was the centre of the universe. Killing is killing whether it is a plant or animal, and is unavoidable in life. I don't see the difference in killing a plant and an animal as I am not bigheaded enough to limit my understanding of the world to my own senses and this is how Gurbani sees things too (as detailed earlier in the thread). Animal products (often byproduct from meat industry but not always) appear in the most unlikeliest places including our clothes, shoes, soaps, shampoos, cleaning products, hardback books, sports gear, cars, firefighting equipment, medical equipment and a thousand other things (including alcoholic drinks!). Sometimes these products are safer for the environment and for people than the synthetic alternatives. Indirectly the synthetic alternatives kill more life. So if you promote not killing on moral grounds then you should not be using any of these products either. Your stance on not killing yourself but not having problems with meat if it has already been killed confuses me as it seems a selfish way to behave showing concern for your own actions only (and hence attachment to self). If you were not consuming there would be no need for the killing to occur in the 1st place to it is an indirect way of supporting the action. Forgive my directness but your posts make no sense to me or maybe I've misunderstood.</blockquote>

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