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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Randip Singh" data-source="post: 160714" data-attributes="member: 1323">Sorry, I haven't got time to repond to the Vashnavite gibberish that is disguised as Sikhism. This mumbo jumbo is advocating Ahimsa, something the Guru's strongly rejected. The fool that wrote that leaflet thinks he is higher than the Akal Takht.Here is the Shabad from where he got the quote from. bayd katayb kahhu mat jhoothay jhoothaa jo na bichaarai. ja-o sabh meh ayk khudaa-ay kahat ha-o ta-o ki-o murgee maarai. mulaaN kahhu ni-aa-o khudaa-ee. tayray man kaa bharam na jaa-ee. rahaa-o. pakar jee-o aani-aa dayh binaasee maatee ka-o bismil kee-aa. jot saroop anaahat laagee kaho halaal ki-aa kee-aa. ki-aa ujoo paak kee-aa muhu Dho-i-aa ki-aa maseet sir laa-i-aa. ja-o dil meh kapat nivaaj gujaarahu ki-aa haj kaabai jaa-i-aa. tooN naapaak paak nahee soojhi-aa tis kaa maram na jaani-aa. kahi kabeer bhisat tay chookaa dojak si-o man maani-aa.  Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false. You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? O Mullah, tell me: is this God's Justice? The doubts of your mind have not been dispelled. Pause You seize a living creature, and then bring it home and kill its body; you have killed only the clay. The light of the soul passes into another form. So tell me, what have you killed? And what good are your purifications? Why do you bother to wash your face? And why do you bother to bow your head in the mosque? Your heart is full of hypocrisy; what good are your prayers or your pilgrimage to Mecca? You are impure; you do not understand the Pure Lord. You do not know His Mystery. Says Kabeer, you have missed out on paradise; your mind is set on hell. Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji    First point to note is that <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/index.php?title=Halaal" target="_blank">halaal</a> and <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/index.php?title=Bismil" target="_blank">bismil</a>,  does not mean kill but refers to a specific form of ritual slaughter.  Put into context this is a comment on the Muslim sacrifice ritual where  either a goat or a chicken is kept in the confines of the home and then  ritually slaughtered as obeisance to Abraham. Kabeer is mocking the  futility of this ritual and saying, that why are you doing this  sacrifice just to emulate Gods asking of Abraham to kill his only son?  It is a futile gesture that will not sway God. Abraham was sacrificing  his son to God, however all the sacrifice in this instance has achieved  is destruction of the outer shell of the chicken. The soul wont travel  to God, but merely to another form. One can only understand this if one  has a basic grasp of history. In this instance the person who tried to  use this tukh as an anti-meat quotation was unaware of the Koranic  context and had an extremely poor knowledge of Semitic history. So you can see he even got the shabad wrong. If you have any queries read this link:<a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/8828-fools-who-wrangle-over-flesh.html" target="_blank">http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/8828-fools-who-wrangle-over-flesh.html</a></blockquote>

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