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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Randip Singh" data-source="post: 56209" data-attributes="member: 1323"><a href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?o2=&o0=1&o7=&o5=&o1=1&o6=&o4=&o3=&s=blasphemous&i=0&h=00#c" target="_blank">S:</a> (adj) blasphemous, <a href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?o2=&o0=1&o7=&o5=&o1=1&o6=&o4=&o3=&s=profane" target="_blank">profane</a>, <a href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?o2=&o0=1&o7=&o5=&o1=1&o6=&o4=&o3=&s=sacrilegious" target="_blank">sacrilegious</a> (grossly irreverent toward what is held to be sacred) "blasphemous rites of a witches' Sabbath"; "profane utterances against the Church"; "it is sacrilegious to enter with shoes on" <a href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?o2=&o0=1&o7=&o5=&o1=1&o6=&o4=&o3=&s=blasphemous&i=1&h=00#c" target="_blank">S:</a> (adj) blasphemous, <a href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?o2=&o0=1&o7=&o5=&o1=1&o6=&o4=&o3=&s=blue" target="_blank">blue</a>, <a href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?o2=&o0=1&o7=&o5=&o1=1&o6=&o4=&o3=&s=profane" target="_blank">profane</a> (characterized by profanity or cursing) "foul-mouthed and blasphemous"; "blue language"; "profane words"  Looking at the definition of blasphemy or blasphemous I fail to find what is blasphemous in this essay? Maybe you would care to enlighten us? Also, please do not use fanatical terminoligy such as "Blasphemous". Such terminoligy is more fitting with organisations such as Al-Qaeeda. There is nothing Blasphemous about the truth. If the truth huirts you so much then please counter it. You have tried once before to "counter" it, but your arguments were defeated easil  How is this? There are more than 20 objective refrences to articles on this issue in the article so how how and what basis do you say the authors have failed?The refrences they use speak for themselves, so please counteract the refrences. As for personal and derogatory comments such as "mouthing off" that is irrelevant. As far as I can see there are citations and named sources withis the essay, so how is this "biased" or "borrowed"? Please elaborate?   Playing Devil and Advocate shows signs of being balanced surely? The Devil makes and Argumant and the Advocate counters. So you are saying in effect that this essay is balanced? The only insult to Sikhism being made is making the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji into a vegetarian menu for Hindu Vashnavites.  If you have actual proof that Historcal texts are incorrect in this essay then please counter it. Also please counter mistranslations with facts and not fiction. In fact I pointed out a mistranslation by you earlier this year and you have not counter acted it. Here is the link to the previous debate: <a href="http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/essays-on-sikhism/8828-fools-who-wrangle-over-flesh-20.html" target="_blank">http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/essays-on-sikhism/8828-fools-who-wrangle-over-flesh-20.html</a>  As far as I can see the translations are correct.  Please post other Tukhs. Those too will be looked at as they have been in this discussion thred.   There is only one Bani and that is Gurbani and that has been considered wholly here. Maas is the word in the Punjabi dictionary for meat and flesh There are no other refrences to meat in Gurbani. and the Guru also says: ka-un maas ka-un saag kahaavai kis meh paap samaanay. What is called meat, and what is called green vegetables? What leads to sin?  gaiNdaa maar hom jag kee-ay dayviti-aa kee baanay. It was the habit of the gods to kill the rhinoceros, and make a feast of the burnt offering.  maas chhod bais nak pakrheh raatee maanas khaanay. Those who renounce meat, and hold their noses when sitting near it, devour men at night.farh kar lokaaN no dikhlaavahi gi-aan Dhi-aan nahee soojhai. They practice hypocrisy, and make a show before other people, but they do not understand anything about meditation or spiritual wisdom.I think people who hold their noses should not forget to breath at some point as oxygen depletion to the brain can lead to irrational thinking and even brain damage.   The authors have made a considered and fact based opinion on the issue. Rather than taking swipes and cheapshots, should you not try and make a considered counter argument?</blockquote>

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