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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Randip Singh" data-source="post: 56507" data-attributes="member: 1323">Because time again on Sant Mat, Dera wala sites you see people interpreting that we go through incarnations of Rock to plant to animal to human. Bani does not actual say that. The actual paragraph stated in question shows how random the incarnations are before one reaches human form. One could ineffect be a plant in one life and the next be human. So in terms of Karma, the killing of a plant is the same and the killing of an animal or rock.   No. I place more value on human life than animal life. I refuse to join the brigade that sees animal life on par with human life. Bani clearly again and again values human life above all others.  If you cannot see how patronising and therefore insulting how some of your statements are then I really do pity you. Along along I have stated I do not favour meat over vegetarianism and vice versa. You however seem hellbent on demonstarting how superior the vegetarian diet is and how immoral meat eaters are. Why can you not leave them alone?   Oh but you are my friend. You are trying to insult my intelligence. I have already told you I do not belive in factory farming methods be they vegetarian or non yet you persist on posting videos of factory farming methods. It may come as a massive shock to you but I am aware of factory farming methods and don't approve. I pointed out that if by Jhatka you mean every Sikh shoudl koll their own animal the every vegetarian should grow their own food too and cultivate it. It is that I think you have a problem with I think.  Ok but please post factory farm methods used to grow vegtables too in the same token too. Lets keep it balanced. You seem to be showing one aspect but not the other. As for being King of the thread, that is to do with Egotism, and has no place here. Alll I ask is keep it clean and no cheap shots as some others have tried on this thread.  That interpretation of Daya is a very very narrow. One could argue that by killing an amimal you are freeing it to go on to its next life. Is that initself not Daya or kindness? Daya is about your Karma's, and in terms of Karma you could argue a plant has as much Karmic value as an animal. Daya means whatever ever you do at every level make sure you are doing with an open heart and others in mind. Daya is the means to counter Greed, Materialism and Egotism to an extent. The point of Jhatka on one level is to kill an animal swift as possible (just like one cuts a crop), but on another level to avoid ritualism (like Halal and Kosher), which is a form of appeasement to God. The Sikh has no need for appeasement if he is doing something with a clean heart.</blockquote>

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