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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shaheediyan" data-source="post: 56523" data-attributes="member: 2867">Ok, lets get to the crux of the matter, we seemed to be going around in circles, and I partially take blame for that. To clarify, this is what I am "assuming" you are saying: 1 - You don't agree with factory farming and killing, good. 2 - You say meat and vegetable should be bought organic, if sangat is to consume responsibly, good, agreed.  I personally have been buying and consuming organic dairy and veg for over 4 years, and encourage others to do the same. 3 - We will have to agree to disagree about whether animal life is more valuable than a plants, but like I said, when you come face to face with an highly emotional, intelligent, social and political animal such as a great ape, it's a whole different matter. 4 - I have agreed with your from the start that bani is not specifying a vegi diet. 5 - Re daya, I sort of agree, it is meant to counter the 5 chor - my point for using daya as clearly mentioned, was to awaken people to their greed (demand) causing monstrous cruelty in modern meat production.  So hopefully that will clarify and conclude these points, sincere apologies if I have come across as patronising or abnoxious.</blockquote>