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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Luckysingh" data-source="post: 192777" data-attributes="member: 16886">Although I haven't  confirmed or checked with historical references (I didn't have time or patience), I am sure that Gyanji has mentioned somewhere else previously, that the real issue of fakes and fraudulent bani had began to surface during this time of Guru Ram Daas ji.(I'm sure Gyanji can elaborate and/or correct me as well!)- I think it became widely known that Prithi Chand, the eldest had become a kind of self taught master by watching and copying his father. He was pretty much convinced that he would be getting the guruship gaddiand at the same time he had many schemes that helped in pocketing sangats money as well. I'm sure Guruji was very familiar with encounters of slandering, deceit adn evil intentions which is why he may have addressed such issues in gurbani as in these vaars.As for the Shudh keechay as mentioned above - this was more evidence that fake or kachi bani was on the loose via Prithi Chand and then his son Mehraban also continued to do this as well sometime later..</blockquote>