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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AmbarDhara" data-source="post: 68665" data-attributes="member: 5661">Many Sikhs respect Bhai Gurdas as a Sant Atma. He claims that he is reay to be cut into four pieces for the person who accepts Guru and God as one.  Gurbani refes to this truth many times in very clear words: 'Brahmgyani aap parmesar'  So if one still believes that this is not true, then it is direct indication that this person is questioning Guru Ji's WORDS. And to my understanding this thread is under Gurmat Vichar section not under Gurbani Debate section. The debate section of this thread should be posted in Interfaith or some other debate section. This place doesn't seem to be the right place for this. Keep only those parts where it is Gurbani Vichar and move the rest to debate section.  I hope moderators understand what I mean. thankyou.         Dhan Dhan Sache Paatshah, Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahibaan ANG 1142 paarabreham gur naahee bhaedh ||4||11||24||There is no difference between the Supreme Lord God and the Guru. ||4||11||24|| I REQUEST ALL THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION FOR THE TRUTH STATED ABOVE IN VERY CLEAR WORDS BY GURUS: PLEASE READ ALL OF GURU GRANTH SAHIB, YOU WILL FIND THIS TRUTH WRITTEN MULTIPLE TIMES. </blockquote>