To: Tejwant Singh
I'm going to replyto your post from end to beging. I like the quote you mentioned at the end but when I said "Again I was stunned. From what I understand these are quotes from the Gurus telling people that atheist are immoral and should be avoided" I meant from what I understand from just reading the quotes by themselves. I know I don't know what they mean because I haven't read them in context and I'd probably still need help understanding them. That's why I posted this to learn what they really mean.
Sorry if you were offended :worship: but to me a person who doesn't know a lot about the SGGS the quotes seem pretty straight forward. But even though I've only been studying for a while now I know that acceptance (thank you for pointing out the difference between tolerance and acceptance) is the center piece of Sikhi so the quotes have to have a logical explanation.
The first quote: I've read it and ...I don't really understand it but I'm going to guess that it means no one will know the joys of being a Sikh until they become a Sikh.
The last two with page numbers: I'm still reading, it might take a while sorry.
Do you know where to find the other quotes? As you mentioned the title of the page is "WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT . . .? - (quotes from Guru Granth Sahib ji) Atheism" but are they in the SGGS? It's a dumb question but they don't have page numbers and I'm wondering if Guru IV means the quote was said by Guru Ram Das but not included in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib?
And going back to the tile of the page you said "it seems that you are more upset about the title of the thread rather than the contents of Gurbani quoted there"
I'm not. I liked the title because it is "WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT . . .? - (quotes from Guru Granth Sahib ji) Atheism" and I wanted to know what the SGGS said about atheists. I don't have a problem with the title saying "WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT . . .?(quotes from Guru Granth Sahib ji) Atheism" becuase I don't have a problem with God if that's what you meant.
I agree with what you said about the difference between Ik Ong Kaar and god and that makes the quotes harder to understand. I'll read the other two with that in mind.
