Hinduism Is It Ok If A Sikh Studies The Upanishads (the Central Layer Of Vedas)

[Seeker2013]

So , Vedas has 4 major layers to it :
1) Samhitas (the mantras, etc recited dedicated to demi gods)
2) Brahamanas (commentaries)
3) Aranyaka (lit. "forest" )
4) Upanishads (lit : 'upa': near , 'ni' : down , 'shad' : sit ; "Sit down near a teacher (to gain knowledge))

I was reading one called "Brihadaranyaka upanishad" .lit. "Brihad" : very big, "aranyaka" : forest, perhaps the world forest .

Actually the pdf I have is more of a 'katha' on the upanishad itself by Swami Krishnananda Saraswati of divine life society.

It talks really strange or should I say SURREAL things .

What you see is not real , what you don't see is the real thing. Talks of atman / brahm and talks like where does consciousness go when we sleep.
I can't really describe all the deep stuff (deep but non-verifiable stuff it talks of) as I don't want to give in details and have only studied superficially.

According to it, soul (self) goes and touches the god (universal self) and thats why we feel refreshed on waking up . And that everything in dreams is made of mind ('mann') itself and the mann then enters the studio of dream world and enjoys what it can't enjoy in waking world.

Its very mystical things , although I haven't read it full because the speaking sage of the upanishad (Sage Yajnavalkya) talks too much of the demi-gods and this and that before coming to his point (one god) which he identifies the same as 'self' in every being.

I don't think its really contradicting with gurbani , infact quite similar to sikh philosophy.

What do sangat here think ?

 

[swarn bains]

learning anything from anywhere is always good. I read upnishda . it was good

 

[chazSingh]

So , Vedas has 4 major layers to it :
1) Samhitas (the mantras, etc recited dedicated to demi gods)
2) Brahamanas (commentaries)
3) Aranyaka (lit. "forest" )
4) Upanishads (lit : 'upa': near , 'ni' : down , 'shad' : sit ; "Sit down near a teacher (to gain knowledge))

I was reading one called "Brihadaranyaka upanishad" .lit. "Brihad" : very big, "aranyaka" : forest, perhaps the world forest .

Actually the pdf I have is more of a 'katha' on the upanishad itself by Swami Krishnananda Saraswati of divine life society.

It talks really strange or should I say SURREAL things .

What you see is not real , what you don't see is the real thing. Talks of atman / brahm and talks like where does consciousness go when we sleep.
I can't really describe all the deep stuff (deep but non-verifiable stuff it talks of) as I don't want to give in details and have only studied superficially.

According to it, soul (self) goes and touches the god (universal self) and thats why we feel refreshed on waking up . And that everything in dreams is made of mind ('mann') itself and the mann then enters the studio of dream world and enjoys what it can't enjoy in waking world.

Its very mystical things , although I haven't read it full because the speaking sage of the upanishad (Sage Yajnavalkya) talks too much of the demi-gods and this and that before coming to his point (one god) which he identifies the same as 'self' in every being.

I don't think its really contradicting with gurbani , infact quite similar to sikh philosophy.

What do sangat here think ?

interesting...

i've never read it....and i probably won't.
not because i don;t think its worthwhile...or its wrong as a sikh to study something else...

from some of the things you write, i can;t say i would disagree with it...through your Simran you may experience something like this...experience strange things...start to understand what is true and what isn;t....the soul...dreams...lucid dreams...astral travel maybe...

there just seems to be an endless vastness to creation...you can lost in it all....that's why the focus has to be on the 'EK'...keep that in mind always..

 

[Dalvinder Singh Grewal]

So , Vedas has 4 major layers to it :
1) Samhitas (the mantras, etc recited dedicated to demi gods)
2) Brahamanas (commentaries)
3) Aranyaka (lit. "forest" )
4) Upanishads (lit : 'upa': near , 'ni' : down , 'shad' : sit ; "Sit down near a teacher (to gain knowledge))

I was reading one called "Brihadaranyaka upanishad" .lit. "Brihad" : very big, "aranyaka" : forest, perhaps the world forest .

Actually the pdf I have is more of a 'katha' on the upanishad itself by Swami Krishnananda Saraswati of divine life society.

It talks really strange or should I say SURREAL things .

What you see is not real , what you don't see is the real thing. Talks of atman / brahm and talks like where does consciousness go when we sleep.
I can't really describe all the deep stuff (deep but non-verifiable stuff it talks of) as I don't want to give in details and have only studied superficially.

According to it, soul (self) goes and touches the god (universal self) and thats why we feel refreshed on waking up . And that everything in dreams is made of mind ('mann') itself and the mann then enters the studio of dream world and enjoys what it can't enjoy in waking world.

Its very mystical things , although I haven't read it full because the speaking sage of the upanishad (Sage Yajnavalkya) talks too much of the demi-gods and this and that before coming to his point (one god) which he identifies the same as 'self' in every being.

I don't think its really contradicting with gurbani , infact quite similar to sikh philosophy.

What do sangat here think ?

Reading any scripture is worth it provided one is clear of sifting falsehood from truth.
 

So , Vedas has 4 major layers to it :
1) Samhitas (the mantras, etc recited dedicated to demi gods)
2) Brahamanas (commentaries)
3) Aranyaka (lit. "forest" )
4) Upanishads (lit : 'upa': near , 'ni' : down , 'shad' : sit ; "Sit down near a teacher (to gain knowledge))

I was reading one called "Brihadaranyaka upanishad" .lit. "Brihad" : very big, "aranyaka" : forest, perhaps the world forest .

Actually the pdf I have is more of a 'katha' on the upanishad itself by Swami Krishnananda Saraswati of divine life society.

It talks really strange or should I say SURREAL things .

What you see is not real , what you don't see is the real thing. Talks of atman / brahm and talks like where does consciousness go when we sleep.
I can't really describe all the deep stuff (deep but non-verifiable stuff it talks of) as I don't want to give in details and have only studied superficially.

According to it, soul (self) goes and touches the god (universal self) and thats why we feel refreshed on waking up . And that everything in dreams is made of mind ('mann') itself and the mann then enters the studio of dream world and enjoys what it can't enjoy in waking world.

Its very mystical things , although I haven't read it full because the speaking sage of the upanishad (Sage Yajnavalkya) talks too much of the demi-gods and this and that before coming to his point (one god) which he identifies the same as 'self' in every being.

I don't think its really contradicting with gurbani , infact quite similar to sikh philosophy.

What do sangat here think ?

Fundamentals of all religious scriptures in India are generally the same since the basic principles of Indian religions remains the same.

 

[lionprinceuk]

With my very limited knowledge of the upanishads, I know that the upanishads are similar to sikhi and probably ek onkar and nirguna sarguna.

However there are so many sikhi scriptures: Dasam Granth, Sarbloh Granth, Vaaran Bhai Gurdaas and also the historical texts and Granths that will will give a lot of knowledge . I think to read all these requires time in modern times. I know nirmalas and Taksals would study all these hindu, sikh and sufi + islamic scriptures and texts, definitely including the Upanishads.

 

[Seeker2013]

With my very limited knowledge of the upanishads, I know that the upanishads are similar to sikhi and probably ek onkar and nirguna sarguna.

However there are so many sikhi scriptures: Dasam Granth, Sarbloh Granth, Vaaran Bhai Gurdaas and also the historical texts and Granths that will will give a lot of knowledge . I think to read all these requires time in modern times. I know nirmalas and Taksals would study all these hindu, sikh and sufi + islamic scriptures and texts, definitely including the Upanishads.

As per my understanding , only nirmalas study vedas . Taksal don't !

 

[lionprinceuk]

As per my understanding , only nirmalas study vedas . Taksal don't !

That is why I said Taksals in plural, not necessarily Mehta Chowk Damdami Taksal.

 

[Seeker2013]

That is why I said Taksals in plural, not necessarily Mehta Chowk Damdami Taksal.

Which other "taksal" is there ? I only knew of one lol

 

[Dalvinder Singh Grewal]

With my very limited knowledge of the upanishads, I know that the upanishads are similar to sikhi and probably ek onkar and nirguna sarguna.

However there are so many sikhi scriptures: Dasam Granth, Sarbloh Granth, Vaaran Bhai Gurdaas and also the historical texts and Granths that will will give a lot of knowledge . I think to read all these requires time in modern times. I know nirmalas and Taksals would study all these hindu, sikh and sufi + islamic scriptures and texts, definitely including the Upanishads.

The teaching in Sikhism are at variance where ritualistic practices are advocated in Hinduism. In spiritual terms however Sikh scripture is closer to Gita. There have been quite a number of comparative studies which have clearly established the difference in fundamentals. To know this study of scriptures of both the religions is needed. Sikh is a continuous learner: for him learning the knowledge in scriptures of all religion is also important. This is why Guru Gobind Singh sent 5 of his scholars to learn Hindu scriptures at Benraras. These scholars are famous by the Nirmalas and are respected equally as other Sikh saints.