This is very serious topic and mostly misunderstood.
This writing is not for the SPN administrators. I already know what they are going say.
Nanak’s philosophy is based on Hinduism. All he did was taken out the stupid rituals. We Sikhs are allergic to any thing come from Hinduism.
Whaheguru word is in SGGS. It was recited by Bhatts not by any Gurus or by any other bhagats.
The name what all are talking about is not name it is naam. Naam can be said as shabad,manter,bani gian dhun. There can be many names for this naam. In the bible it is said: in the beginning there was WORD, the WORD was with God and God was WORD. Nanak emphasized on naam more then any one. And other guru also said with out naam there is no salvation. This naam is the blessing of guru. One can make his own word but will not work because it has to be given by guru. Not just any guru, the guru has to be real. There are many gurus but only few are real guru.
The word used in moolmanter satnam does not mean true. True is sash not sat. Sat is what that is everlasting. As we Sikhs claiming the first symbol of the moolmanter ekong kar. It was just ek aum. This Hindu philosophy. All Hindus say aum before they start any thing. It was also the manter is used to do mediation. Only the Brahman can meditated on aum. Lower cast were forbidden to use aum. This is where Nanak said all humans are same and the naam should be the same for every human. The whole writing in the sggs is to glorify the Naam. Acording to Hindus and Nanak it is not just recite aum. It is the sound that aum produce when it is recited in cretin way. That way should be learned from guru. It is strange Than Nanak praised naam yet he never told us what is that naam. We have to wait for the bhatts to recite it then we started to use it. Mostly it was Gobind Singh used it when he said Waheguru ji ka Khals Wahe guru ji ke fate, That became Singhism. This it lot different from Sikhism.
It is this naam when guru give it to us that can lead one to salvation by the sound of it. We should not ask for this naam. The guru will give it by his own. When we ask for any thing it become begging (bhiksha) When guru give it by himself then it become blessing (daan). By meditating on this naam if one chose to then he can go to brahma. Who is considerd to be creator. That is why we call some pakhandi brahmgiani. Brahmgiani is one who has merged in brahma. If he is merged in brahma how can he be living? He is also called brahm puter (son of brahma) God. This is what Jesus was trying to tell his followers. No one can go to my father accept through son of god brahputer. In Hinduism to reach brahma only through guru. There are two ways one can get the salvation. One is by meditation which is very long process. Other is get the naam from guru.
How can we know who is real guru or not? If there are the guru ask his chela to do the rituals to please brhama then that guru is fake. All this guru want is you to keep coming to him. He is the only one who can solve our problems. Don’t forget we creat our own problem and then we pray or go to guru to solve it. Haha. If one tell chela no ritual no meditation do nothing. But do no harm to others then at the time of his death the naam will protect his soul he will get salvation. We can not get out of ritiuals we are conditioned by fake religions. We can not get any thing with out doing some puja or. It is not what we do after we get the naam it is what we do before we get the naam. If we are not ready and not worthy to receive naam the guru will not appear to him. Real guru is not in the body it is the naam. That what Nanak told the sidhs. That my guru is naam dhun sound.
If one accept A religion he have to do the rituals. He can not refuse it. He can not get what Nanak said. No one been able to tell me what is the naam. Many people say it is all what is ion SGGS. Many of new generation can not read SGGS. So there is no hope for them? It is not reading SGGS or Geta or Bible it is put it in prectis. We want the easy way. Most Sikhs believe that will go to heaven because they have acceped SGGS as their guru. And they know with out guru one can not go to heaven.
Were there real people as brahma,vishu, shivji? No they were not real people. Hinduism was not a religion to begin with. It was theory of science. People of that time did not understand the science so they started to worship brahma vishu shivji and made their idols and worship.
There have been many religions in mankind and many have gone into winds.Many more will go as the science will be taught all over.
What are we getting salvation from? Some say from rebirth. Are they right? What those do not believe in rebirth? That mean they are all have the salvation? In reality it is our maan we need salvation from. What ever we do is of from our maan. When we accept guru we are doing so from the maan. Did the guru accept us as his chela. Any thing we do out of maan can not lead us to salvation. What we see and what we hear and what we feel touch. Create our thoughts. It is thought that is controlling us. We react out of our maan. There is a way to control one’s thoughts. Most people think thoughts can not be controlled.
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