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Gurmat Vichaar
Gurmat Vichar - Discussions
Nanak Is The Guru, Nanak Is The Lord Himself
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<blockquote data-quote="kaur-1" data-source="post: 74197" data-attributes="member: 3025"><p><strong>Re: Nanak is the Guru, Nanak is the Lord Himself.</strong></p><p></p><p>I am sorry I am feeling rather "thick" today.</p><p></p><p>OK. but after reading Balbirs rather confusing post sevaral times all I decipher from the part about "simar mannar" is that he is against reading Gurbani for eg. Japji Sahib more then once! (repetition). <em>(I thought the use of the word "decipher" was most appropriate here)</em></p><p></p><p>Please explain if I have misunderstood the msg he is trying to convey.</p><p></p><p>Please also explain why he is saying that Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is not preaching. Isnt Gurbani "Gurmat"? </p><p></p><p>Please also explain his comment "<em>Imitating them may disturb them</em>".</p><p></p><p></p><p>p/s This is the beautiful shabad link you have posted. Does it also mean that it is wrong to sing the shabad kirtan link you provided all day if I wanted to?</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">simar manaa raam naam chi<u>t</u>aaray</span></span></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #ff6600">iblwvlu mhlw 5 ] </span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'WebLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #008000">(803-18)</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'WebLipiHeavy'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #008000"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px">bilaaval mehlaa 5.</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000080">Bilaaval, Fifth Mehl:</span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"> </p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">BUly mwrgu ijnih bqwieAw ]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><u>bh</u>oolay maarag jineh ba<u>t</u>aa-i-aa.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">He places the one who strays back on the Path;</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">AYsw guru vfBwgI pwieAw ]1]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">aisaa gur vad<u>bh</u>aagee paa-i-aa. ||1||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">such a Guru is found by great good fortune. ||1||</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #009900">ismir mnw rwm nwmu icqwry ]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #009900"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">simar manaa raam naam chi<u>t</u>aaray.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Meditate, contemplate the Name of the Lord, O mind.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">bis rhy ihrdY gur crn ipAwry ]1] rhwau ]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">bas rahay hir<u>d</u>ai gur charan pi-aaray. ||1|| rahaa-o.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The Beloved Feet of the Guru abide within my heart. ||1||Pause||</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">kwim k®oiD loiB moih mnu lInw ]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">kaam kro<u>Dh</u> lo<u>bh</u> mohi man leenaa.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The mind is engrossed in sexual desire, anger, greed and emotional attachment.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">bMDn kwit mukiq guir kInw ]2]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">ban<u>Dh</u>an kaat muka<u>t</u> gur keenaa. ||2||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Breaking my bonds, the Guru has liberated me. ||2||</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">duK suK krq jnim Puin mUAw ]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><u>d</u>u<u>kh</u> su<u>kh</u> kara<u>t</u> janam fun moo-aa.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Experiencing pain and pleasure, one is born, only to die again.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">crn kml guir AwsRmu dIAw ]3]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">charan kamal gur aasram <u>d</u>ee-aa. ||3||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The Lotus Feet of the Guru bring peace and shelter. ||3||</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">Agin swgr bUfq sMswrw ]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">agan saagar booda<u>t</u> sansaaraa.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The world is drowning in the ocean of fire.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600">nwnk bwh pkir siqguir insqwrw ]4]3]8]</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'WebAkharThick'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff6600"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px">naanak baah pakar sa<u>t</u>gur nis<u>t</u>aaraa. ||4||3||8||</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">O Nanak, holding me by the arm, the True Guru has saved me. ||4||3||8||</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080"></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kaur-1, post: 74197, member: 3025"] [b]Re: Nanak is the Guru, Nanak is the Lord Himself.[/b] I am sorry I am feeling rather "thick" today. OK. but after reading Balbirs rather confusing post sevaral times all I decipher from the part about "simar mannar" is that he is against reading Gurbani for eg. Japji Sahib more then once! (repetition). [I](I thought the use of the word "decipher" was most appropriate here)[/I] Please explain if I have misunderstood the msg he is trying to convey. Please also explain why he is saying that Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is not preaching. Isnt Gurbani "Gurmat"? Please also explain his comment "[I]Imitating them may disturb them[/I]". p/s This is the beautiful shabad link you have posted. Does it also mean that it is wrong to sing the shabad kirtan link you provided all day if I wanted to? [CENTER][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]simar manaa raam naam chi[U]t[/U]aaray[/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER] [LEFT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff6600]iblwvlu mhlw 5 ] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=WebLipiHeavy][SIZE=2][COLOR=#008000](803-18) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]bilaaval mehlaa 5. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000080]Bilaaval, Fifth Mehl:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/LEFT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]BUly mwrgu ijnih bqwieAw ] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][U]bh[/U]oolay maarag jineh ba[U]t[/U]aa-i-aa. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]He places the one who strays back on the Path;[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]AYsw guru vfBwgI pwieAw ]1] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]aisaa gur vad[U]bh[/U]aagee paa-i-aa. ||1|| [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]such a Guru is found by great good fortune. ||1||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#009900]ismir mnw rwm nwmu icqwry ] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]simar manaa raam naam chi[U]t[/U]aaray. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Meditate, contemplate the Name of the Lord, O mind.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]bis rhy ihrdY gur crn ipAwry ]1] rhwau ] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]bas rahay hir[U]d[/U]ai gur charan pi-aaray. ||1|| rahaa-o. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The Beloved Feet of the Guru abide within my heart. ||1||Pause||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]kwim k®oiD loiB moih mnu lInw ] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]kaam kro[U]Dh[/U] lo[U]bh[/U] mohi man leenaa. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The mind is engrossed in sexual desire, anger, greed and emotional attachment.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]bMDn kwit mukiq guir kInw ]2] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]ban[U]Dh[/U]an kaat muka[U]t[/U] gur keenaa. ||2|| [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Breaking my bonds, the Guru has liberated me. ||2||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]duK suK krq jnim Puin mUAw ] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][U]d[/U]u[U]kh[/U] su[U]kh[/U] kara[U]t[/U] janam fun moo-aa. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Experiencing pain and pleasure, one is born, only to die again.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]crn kml guir AwsRmu dIAw ]3] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]charan kamal gur aasram [U]d[/U]ee-aa. ||3|| [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The Lotus Feet of the Guru bring peace and shelter. ||3||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]Agin swgr bUfq sMswrw ] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]agan saagar booda[U]t[/U] sansaaraa. [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The world is drowning in the ocean of fire.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=WebAkharThick][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff6600]nwnk bwh pkir siqguir insqwrw ]4]3]8] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]naanak baah pakar sa[U]t[/U]gur nis[U]t[/U]aaraa. ||4||3||8|| [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]O Nanak, holding me by the arm, the True Guru has saved me. ||4||3||8|| [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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