India RSS, BJP Lock Horns Over Women, Marriage

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RSS, BJP lock horns over women, marriage
TNN - Jan 7, 2013, 03.49 AM IST

Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS ) chief Mohanrao Bhagwat kicked up a fresh ruckus saying marriage is a contract between a man and a woman, and lasts as long as woman honours it. He then said for marriage to work, wives must look after household chores.

"Marriage is successful only when wife looks after the household and husband takes care of the earning. This system ensures order in society," Bhagwat said at RSS's 'ekatrikaran' or gathering, late on Saturday. But, as if this wasn't patriarchal enough, out came another gem from 80-year-old Madhya Pradesh minister Babulal Gaur, who said it wasn't appropriate to describe marriage as a contract in India, where husbands for centuries have been revered as 'parmeshwar (god)' by wives.

Implicit in Gaur's criticism of Bhagwat was that a contract can take place only between equals and not between gods and mere mortals. All this coming within days of Bhagwat's remark that rapes take place in west-influenced urban India and not rural Bharat, the latest display of competitive chauvinism within the Sangh parivar is bound to leave even some BJP supporters cringing.

Bhagwat, who was in Indore for a day, said, "The husband and wife are contractually bound under which the husband wants the woman to look after his house in order to take care of her needs and safety. Till the time the wife follows the contract, the husband stays with her. If she violates the contract, he can walk out."

Speaking at another gathering on Sunday, Bhagwat said that the country was plagued by internal and external problems, and that "Hindutva offers solutions to the burning problems. Although everyone was aware of the problems, there was no collective effort to address them." A collective effort without departing from India's age-old tradition is the panacea for all the problems, he said.

Apart from senior BJP leaders Sumitra Mahajan and industries minister Kailash Vijayavargiya, almost a lakh of RSS volunteers and workers were present.

Meanwhile, Gaur explained further, "Traditionally in this country, a woman considered her husband god. That status may have changed in modern times but what is good in our society should be kept that way. A woman gets married to a man thinking it to be a life-long commitment. Marriages in India are considered a bond that goes beyond one life. We call it 'saat jannmo ka bandhan (an attachment for seven lives)."

source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-over-women-marriage/articleshow/17918731.cms

 

[Ishna]

Wow...

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Orderly Sytem..ha ha this is how the CASTE SYSTEM is also "defended..explained away..ha ha

 

[Harkiran Kaur]

wow.... This is the exact thinking that spurred the comments by the guy I was mentioning in my thread earlier. In fact almost word for word... about the 'agreement' between the husband and wife that she stays home and cooks and cleans while he works. He even mentioned the whole 'safety' thing too!

It's things like this that make me frustrated with the whole issue of equality. I like the part where they say "if the wife violates the contract he can walk out on her" what's that supposed to mean? She isn't a perfect cook or he found a speck of dust on the floor then he can just up and leave??

So so very much not right!!!!

 

[Archived_Member16]

FOR NECESSARY INFORMATION:

Hindutva is a nationalist ideology, based on a modern day version of centralized intolerant Hinduism. The RSS / BJP desire to IMPOSE it upon all the people of India, regardless of religion! It is a well known fact that Hindutva philospohy has gradually spread its undesired / ugly tentacles, in the last few years, into SIKHISM through the SANT SAMAJ ( president: Harnam Singh Dumma ) and SAD ( the Badals / the Five Takht Jathedars), an example: the "NEW" NANAKSHAI calendar , in order to secure their personal / political power base, and also declare eventually Sikhism as an off shoot and part of Hinduism!

 

[Ambarsaria]

Wow...

Ishna ji I repeat from the following thread previously posted (emphasis added),

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/39615-criteria-when-she-deserves-to-raped.html#post177290

1. Longer Term Role of Underlying Religious Doctrines
   • It is incredibly unfortunate for females in India in such matters
   • The religions of Hinduism and Islam as practiced in India don't have much of a place of justice or equality for females. Lip service yes, but little for the common female Indian in the category of functionally have-nots.

There is much evil at the core. It gets sweetened by controlled media and fancy marketing and gift wrapping of the dominant religion in India.

It won't get better in a hurry if at all. It just will become underground and practiced as it has been for thousands of years. There is no change or is acceptance of change in such religious doctrines which are actually getting stronger rather than weaker through Telemarketing brainwashing and gimmicks.

See how Andh-Vishwas (blind faith) is being used to sell stones, jantar-mantar (miracle potions and scripts), etc., by Telemarketing exploiters on Indian Channels. Same religious exploitation and basis for female denigration albeit more sophisticated and veiled.

So saddening that it is so starkly visible but still not seen by most in power or by those electing such to power.

 

[spnadmin]

FOR NECESSARY INFORMATION:

Hindutva is a nationalist ideology, based on a modern day version of centralized intolerant Hinduism. The RSS / BJP desire to IMPOSE it upon all the people of India, regardless of religion! It is a well known fact that Hindutva philospohy has gradually spread its undesired / ugly tentacles, in the last few years, into SIKHISM through the SANT SAMAJ ( president: Harnam Singh Dumma ) and SAD ( the Badals / the Five Takht Jathedars), an example: the "NEW" NANAKSHAI calendar , in order to secure their personal / political power base, and also declare eventually Sikhism as an off shoot and part of Hinduism!

There is one aspect of this that many in the west, and outside of India, would not understand and would need explained. Otherwise they would have to do at least 2 years of searching newspaper archives, and even then might not see the connection. How and when did BJP politically connect with Hindutva ideology, and by extension to RSS? How would that have come about? It is important to know in order to understand that this article is more than an attack on the status of women, but one chapter in a much longer story. Then I think statements such as BJP members were "left cringing" following statements by Bhagwat and Gaur would make more sense.

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

FOR NECESSARY INFORMATION:

Hindutva is a nationalist ideology, based on a modern day version of centralized intolerant Hinduism. The RSS / BJP desire to IMPOSE it upon all the people of India, regardless of religion! It is a well known fact that Hindutva philospohy has gradually spread its undesired / ugly tentacles, in the last few years, into SIKHISM through the SANT SAMAJ ( president: Harnam Singh Dumma ) and SAD ( the Badals / the Five Takht Jathedars), an example: the "NEW" NANAKSHAI calendar , in order to secure their personal / political power base, and also declare eventually Sikhism as an off shoot and part of Hinduism!

The 7 Year old NANAK challenged this HINDUTVA IDEOLOGY by REFUSING POINT BLANK the JANEAU...and this set the Alarm Belss ringing...and have been ringing non stop since then....UDASIS...in the HOME of GURU NANAK..the dasus the datus..the mohans and Prithiyas..the meenas dhirmalliahs..the ram raiyahs..the masands..ganggus chandus..nehrus gandhis.Radhasoamis, ashutoshs, bhaniayars, namdharees, premis..babas deras, .NOT A SINGLE DAY has passed by when the HOUSE OF NANAK is not under threat...