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Jaspi,

 

"Before British empire came to India we had been holding very high value of Shri Gobind singh ji 's teaching, We never had a room for cast sysytems. But we became worst during British empire believing so much in cast system even worst than Hindus who started this mess on the first place.Start drinking whiskies and alcohal. Morals droped down . Started giving and asking dowery in marriages. Started retual like Hindus which Shri Guru Nanak Dev Ji spent all his life to teach us and radicated all the retual and idol worships."

 

From my understanding Sikhs were doing this stuff before the British got there (not that it justifies them invading foreign countries!)

 

Even during Maharaja Ranjit's time, drinking and Hinduisation of Sikhs was strongly in place, as was having multiple wives. I do believe that they made the caste system worse by promoting differences, but the extent to which caste played a part in Sikh society is confusing.  But you are right, today Sikhs seem more caste obsessed than even many Hindus. As for dowry!! I think Panjabis always gave gifts when their daughters were married but this has turned really ugly and evil now.


"British encouraged every one to add their family name thier sub-cast or family name at the end like Dhillon,Sagu ,mali,and many more. We supposed to have only name Singh as our family name . So we can stand all like a brother and sisters. You do not ask at the time of a marrioage if you are sikh or Ramgaria,or any cast as long as you have come from sikh family.But no we have ruiend every essence of sikhism.


Cast system is number one not beileve in.Intiated by Guru Nanak Dev ji."

 

Yes, now you bring it up, all the old Persian and even European documents from the 18th century generally do not refer to Sikhs with a surname other than Singh, something happened since then to make it commonplace to have your caste name.


"Refence to the use of alcohal. It is totally forbidden to sikhs But any intoxicants are prohibted to sikhs and moslims.We drink because our parents drinks and so on. Parents must practice exactly how they expect the childerns should follow them ."

 

This is controversial but some old rahit namas make reference to drink apparently, as do early European accounts. Panjabis are generally {censored}heads both here in the UK and back home from what I've seen.


"You have perfect reason to be confused as what you see. We have lost tottal sense of our true path which Guru Granth Sahib Ji teaches us on very high level. There are people who started thier on sub line such Nirankari,radhaswami,many others by reading the same Guru Granth Sahib Ji but have thier own interpretaions of the Bani. Now millions of people followed the as a Guru where as it strictly against Gur Gobind Singh Ji when he said


"Guru Granth Ji manio pargat Guru ki dheh'"

 

Yeah, sant worship is becoming really common now.


"Coming to the point which I like to suggest by appreciating your boldness to post your inner strugle feelings on sikh forum,please continue to belive our principals of sikhism as there is no such wide open concept avalable in any faith which belives in all humanity welfare and consider all human being come from one light.

To tell you the truth you probably many peoples eys .What they preach and what they ptactice . Todays priest has also became a materlistic and speaking all kinds of lies. This is in all the relegion because all the society is embracing immorals practices.


Good luck you are living in very challanging world if you follow the teachings of sikhism ,you will have a btter chances to lead your life peacefully and sucessfull."

 

I agree, I think Sikhism does give a solid moral framework for life today that is more wholsome than most alternatives. I don't agree that Sikhism guarantees a more peaceful life though as it is "sharper than the edge of a Khanda"


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