Re: Sikh...Islam...
Tejwant Ji,
"<<Just remember God is also the destroyer as well as the creator, all experiences, good and bad occur under his supreme will and decision.>>
This is not a Sikhi concept. It is the semitic and Hindu concept. Ik Ong Kaar is Ajuni Saibangh- Creative Energy. Being a destroyer is a man's ill trait. Remember Sikhi has no deity unlike the above mentioned religions."
ਨਮੋ ਸਰਬ ਖਾਪੇ ॥ ਨਮੋ ਸਰਬ ਥਾਪੇ ॥
Salutation to Thee O Destroyer Lord! Salutation to Thee O Establisher Lord!
ਨਮੋ ਸਰਬ ਕਾਲੇ ॥ ਨਮੋ ਸਰਬ ਪਾਲੇ ॥੨੦॥
Salutation to Thee O Annihilator Lord! Salutation to Thee O All-sustainer Lord!20
“ਪ੍ਰਭੰਗੀਪ੍ਰਮਾਥੇ॥ਸਮਸਤੀਬਿਭੂਤੇ॥੪੯॥
Salutation to Thee O Destroyer Lord! Salutation to Thee O Omnipotent Lord! Salutation to Thee O Greatest to All Lord!”
Aad Bhenji,
The word Sikh means “Disciple, Student, Murid”, as overly simplified as this may sound. We are all Sikhs of Aad Sri Guru Granth Sahib, and the all those contained there in, including Sufi Baba Farid Shakar Ganj (born 1173 CE), who actually lived prior to Vaheguru’s manifestation on Earth as Satguru Nanak (1469 CE).
“Without adhering to the message of Guru Nanak Sahib jee no one has been saved and no one ever will be.”
So are you saying that Baba Farid and his Murids were damned? And are you saying that the Prophets Abraham, Jesus and Mohammed and their followers were not saved, alongside Buddha, Zoroaster, Sri Krishan, Sri Ram Chandra and many others…..
Have you read about Satguru being the same light as Sri Krishna and Sri Ram Chandra… in both Bhatt Gurbani and Bhai Gurdas ki Vaaran…?
Do you not agree with Satguru’s definition of a Muslim or Hindu, would you say that you do not fit within these definitions??
It makes me sad to see that followers of Sikhi are evolving into God/Truth monopolising and damning students….
We follow and obey Maharaj, but that doesn’t mean we can’t learn what is good from anywhere else…
ਬੇਦਕਤੇਬਕਹਹੁਮਤਝੂਠੇਝੂਠਾਜੋਨਬਿਚਾਰੈ॥ Bėḏ kaṯėb kahhu maṯ jẖūṯẖė jẖūṯẖā jo na bicẖārai.Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false.
Maybe read up on why 10th Master sent 5 Sikhs to Kashi, what they learnt and and what they did… as a brief, Satguru took the thousands of years old religious monopoly of reading and teaching the Vedas from the Brahmans (no other caste was allowed to see the text) and then ordered his 5 Sikhs to expound the teaching in their “original” form, and give them back to the people, explained through Gurmat.
This was the task of the original Sikh intellects/saints, the Nirmalai and Sevapanthi, the latter who also specialised in studying and teaching correct meaning of Islam via Bhai Aden Shah, from who’s parampara, the famous holy sant Baba Shaam Singh Ji took education and did 75 years nishkaam kirtan seva at Darbaar Sahib.
Sikhi is more diverse and universal than you think…..
Don’t forget the numerous Hindu’s and Muslims i.e. Sain Mian Mir and Pir Budduh Shah who supported and sacrificed their all for Satguru’s… Guru’s never asked them to leave their faith, because they were true adherents of their faith.
Please don’t think I am arguing or care about winning a debate, I am simply trying to help open your mind to what Satguru is telling us…..
Just trying to help.
