Re: gays and sikhi
That is the first time I've ever heard that...nice reply though, best of luck.
Hm...Guru Nanak also preached for procreation. Also, Guru Hargobind stated many things on sexuality, and said you shoudl worry about procreating also, and not to use your wife as a mere sex toy.
The Gurus did not have to explicitly state a thing to say its bad or you should or should not do it.
As far as the Gurus commenting on homosexuality, they say that lust is bad.
Now, you argued previously that no every homosexual is overly lustful as stereotypically seen. What I can reply back with is that, homosexuality is only sex for pleasure. Therefore, regardless if you do it alot, or none, you are only doing it for yourself. You have disregarded your parents wishes, procreation and numerous other factors. Even if your parents agree with your behavior now or accept it, that still does not mean that they "had" you, and wanted you to be Gay. Homosexuality is a dead end. You gain nothing from it but self-pleasure.
Gurus DID believe in procreation, this is seen as the Gurus had kids. Gianis in Sikhism have kids, Guru Nanak also said that one sould procreate. That is why there is no "celebacy" among Sikhs. If you wish to remain, celebate, your choice. But to perform the opposite, and have sex, with 0% of reproductive rate, is something else.
Incorrect...the same thing can be said about "Sardars" or turbanned-Sikhs. Society is all about shaving, the latest hair-cut, the best groomed man. Yet, some of us still stand out with beards and turbans as if live in the 10th century. Is it mandatory for us to do this, when we can make the other choice? To live easily, and better, and be more liked among women?
NO, it is OUR personal choice. 90% of "born-Sikhs" in America cut their hair anyway. 10% of us keep it, as our choice.
I do not see how Gays cant make the same choice to stick out.
lol, I'm sure none of us think that. Atleast I'd hope we wouldn't.
As far as the moral decline being a rejection from society...that is something the Gay community needs to fix. Turbanned-Sikhs are rejected from western society, but I'd say the Turbanned community is not facing a drastic moral decline.
Incorrect. Procreation and love and companionship are two faces of the same coin. Gays can only see one face of the coin, and that face leads to only self-pleasure and lust, which the Gurus clearly spoke against.
Of course discrimination gets you nowhere, but if you sit idly will get you nowhere either.
And to set the record straight, for everyone say that questions "Why did God create homosexuality" are asking the wrong question first-hand.
God did not create homosexuality, for if it was created and its intent was to be used, than mankind would have died long ago.
Animals show homosexual behavior because they do not have the same brain capacity as us, they can not "think". Plug-and-Chug is their view. Eventually they get it right, and hope for procreation. I would assume Humans were above that.
Second, you can ask the question, "Why did God create drugs/razor blade/scissors"...is it for me to use, cut my hair/shave?
God gave us "free-will" to make our own personal choices. Whom we love, how we raise our kids, whether we give into desires of lust, pleasure and other worldly goods.
Personal choices, just like using drugs, are not always good ones. Religion usually tells us to make correct personal choices.
Anyways, you should stop by here more often.
Few questions, if there too personal, then please dont answer:
When did you find out you were "gay" ? Did it just click to you at a certain time? Do you strongly believe its genetic?
If homosexuality is genetic, than I will fight for their equal rights. But until then, I do believe its a personal choice, and stand against that choice.
-S|kH
