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I have read both threads and they were very interesting, it appears to me that those who have been married in sikh temples, and those who have been present, have truly been part of something beautiful, but most have been completely unaware of just how beautiful. It would truly be a shame not to have full understanding of just what is being sung and said and understand exactly what Anand Karaj means, on the one hand, I am sad that my current union is 'unblessed' in this manner, on the other hand, I am glad I will  wait until we can both appreciate the majestic meaning that these words give to a 'ceremony' and thats what makes it beyond ritual.