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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Archived_Member4" data-source="post: 87709" data-attributes="member: 6184">Aad ji, I have seen this over and over and read this over and over from people, that what one does with the exterior body really does not matter. But this is not true, for in Japji Sahib on ang 4 it clearly says one's actions affect the soul. When the hands and the feet and the body are dirty, water canwash away the dirt. When the clothes are soiled and stained by urine, soap can wash them clean. But when the intellect isstained and polluted by sin, it can only be cleansed by the Love of the Name. Virtue and vice do not come by mere words;actions repeated, over and over again, are engraved on the soul. You shall harvest what you plant. O Nanak, by the Hukam ofGod.s Command, we come and go in reincarnation. || 20 || ang 4   GAUREE, KABEER JEE: Those who take their ritual baths in the evening and the morning are like the frogs in thewater. || 1 || When people do not love the Lord.s Name, they must all go to the Righteous Judge of Dharma. || 1 || Pause|| Those who love their bodies and try different looks, do not feel compassion, even in dreams. || 2 || The wise men callthem four-footed creatures; the Holy find peace in this ocean of pain. || 3 || Says Kabeer, why do you perform so manyrituals? Renounce everything, and drink in the supreme essence of the Lord. || 4 || 5 || ang 324 GAUREE,FIFTH MEHL: Save me, O My Father God. I am worthless and without virtue; all virtues are Yours. || 1 || Pause || The fivevicious thieves are assaulting my poor being; save me, O Savior Lord! They are tormenting and torturing me. I have come, seeking Your Sanctuary. || 1 || Trying all sorts of things, I have grownweary, but still, they will not leave me alone. But I have heard that they can be rooted out, in the Saadh Sangat, the Companyof the Holy; and so I seek their Shelter. || 2 || In their Mercy, the Saints have met me, and from them, I have obtainedsatisfaction. The Saints have given me the Mantra of the Fearless Lord, and now I practice the Word of the Guru.s Shabad. ||3 || I have now conquered those terrible evil-doers, and my speech is now sweet and sublime. Says Nanak, the Divine Lighthas dawned within my mind; I have obtained the state of Nirvaanaa. || 4 || 4 || 125 || ang 206 Through various rituals, one does not find release. Withoutvirtue, one is sent to the City of Death.One will not have this world or the next; committing sinful mistakes, one comes to regret and repent in the end. He has neitherspiritual wisdom or meditation; neither Dharmic faith mor meditation. Without the Name, how can one be fearless? How can heunderstand egotistical pride? I am so tired . how can I get there? This ocean has no bottom or end. I have no lovingcompanions, whom I can ask for help. O Nanak, crying out, .Beloved, Beloved., we are united with the Uniter. He whoseparated me, unites me again; my love for the Guru is infinite. || 37 || ang 935 The shabads in bold and other two shabads say otherwise from what you have written in your 4 scenarios post and in post number 185. Person B engages in various rituals and does not find release/Divine light/spiritual understanding. Also he is without virtue for compassion is a virtue and Bhagat Kabir ji says on ang 324 “Those who love their bodies and try different looks, do not feel compassion, even in dreams.”  In both post you have said renounce what is useless/nothing of true importance and tattoos are of no importance.  Inwardly pure and Outwardly pure is a Sikhs path.</blockquote>

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