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Message: <blockquote data-quote="P J Singh" data-source="post: 225794" data-attributes="member: 25524">Thank you for your perspective and for an insightful response to help me understand.  I truly appreciate the time and effort you took to put together these thoughts.1) You asked me why AGGS and not SGGS?The Guru Sahib's Saroop that I have states as its title: "Adh Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji"2) You write: “The freewill does not change the destiny but it changes the experience of it, therefore, makes the desire of changing the destiny unnecessary.”This is clear but I also think a little more clarity is needed  based on what you said it your last post: “freewill starts when you ….start using the jugat”. This means that all the actions that may be the part of the “jugat” were not in our Lekha/destiny - they are freely determined. These are all the  “add-on” to the destiny for everyone who decides to follow Guru and plans to implement (Maniya) Guru's teachings.3) Your write: “If from being Spiritual means to be in your own true home/state, then yes, in my understanding, the freewill comes to be useful only after you have become spiritual and have an enlightened Guru to guide you.”If you are already in Nij Ghar ( you are enjoying the seeing the waves as you are sitting in the boat and transcending Maya, you are de facto out of “three-Gunn” Maya and in 4th State).  If this is the case , then why would you need an enlightened Guru anymore; where do you wish to go from there, if you are already in 4th State and in NIj Ghar? Is it not  where Joti and Jot proceed to merge or is there another place where this union  of Jot and Joti takes place and one becomes Sachiara?I hope I am making some sense.Guru Fetah!</blockquote>

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