- Vaheguru as a Mantar/Name of God?
- 947 shabads /5600 verses by Guru Nanak but NO ‘Vaheguru’
- 63 shabads /250 verses by Guru Angad but NO ‘Vaheguru’
- 869 shabads /5100 verses by Guru Amar Das but NO word ‘Vaheguru’
- 638 shabads /3800 verses by Guru Ram Das but NO word ‘Vaheguru’
- 2313 shabads /13900 verses by Guru Arjun but NO word ‘Vaheguru’
- 115 shabads /690 verses by Guru Teg Bahadur but NO word ‘Vaheguru’
- 788 shabads /4000 verses by the 16 Bhagats but NO word ‘Vaheguru’
- 11 shabads /100 verses by 3 other Sikhs but NO word ‘Vaheguru’
- 5714 shabads /30000 TOTAL verses by Gurus, Bhagats and Sikhs but NO word ‘Vaheguru’
- SGGS Principles Re: God’s Name
- He has No proper name
- His names are given by His children (Bhagats)
- ALL His names are ‘Kirtam’ – descriptions of His perceived
Virtues (adjectives – Giver, Helper, Kind, Benevolent, Powerful etc)
- So ALL such perceived virtues are acceptable
- One virtue cannot be superior to the other
- ਕਿਰਤਮ ਨਾਮ ਕਥੇ ਤੇਰੇ ਜਿਹਬਾ ॥ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਪਰਾ ਪੂਰਬਲਾ ॥ SGGS 1083
- Kirtam Naam Kathye Tere Jehba, Sat Nam Tera Pra Poorbla
- SGGS thus begins with a Salok as the preamble
- ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
- Ek Oangkar Sat Naam Karta Purakh Nirbhau Nirvair Akaal Moorat Ajooni Saibhang Gur Parsad.
- From Puratan tradition – Har, Ram …..
- From Muslim tradition – Allah, Rahim ….
- From Puratan tradition – Alakh, Niranjan….
- From Puratan tradition – Beethal, Raiya ….
- From Personal tradition – Pita, Mata….
- Example of a shabad by Bhagat Namdev (SGGS 727)
- ਮੈ ਅੰਧੁਲੇ ਕੀ ਟੇਕ ਤੇਰਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਖੁੰਦਕਾਰਾ ॥
- Mein Andhley Kee Tek Tera Nam Khundkara ||
Where many descriptive names are used – Khundkara, Adhara, Kareema, Raheema, Allah, Ganee, Hazra Hazoor, Dana Beena, Suami Bakhshand, Hari
- Meaning of word Vaheguru in Bhattan dey Swayeay SGGS 1402
- ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥
- The word Vaheguru is combination of two words (Vah is Persian and Guru is Sanskrit)
- Vah is an exclamation that is an involuntary utterance.
- A voluntary utterance is pretensious/fake.
- A forced utterance is Ritualistic
- Shabad by Bhatts in praise of Guru Arjun SGGS 1403
- ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਬਿੰਦ ਜੀਉ ॥
- Satguru Satguru Satguru Gobind jio
- ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਿਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਤਿ ਜੀਉ ॥
- Sri Guru Sri Guru Sri Guru Sat jio
- Name of God not as Satguru or Sri Guru – why only ‘Vaheguru’ has been selected and by whom?
- What word did the Bhatts use for God’s name in SGGS/Bhatt Dey Swayeay? (SGGS 1404 – same words as Guru Nanak)
- ਅਗਮੁ ਅਨੰਤੁ ਅਨਾਦਿ ਆਦਿ ਜਿਸੁ ਕੋਇ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ॥
- Agum Anant Anad Aad Jis Koe na Janey
- ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੁ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨਹੀ ਦੂਸਰ ਕੋਈ ॥
- Nirangkar Nirvair Avan Nahi Dusar Koe
- ਸ੍ਰੀ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਗੁਰ ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਚਿਤਹ ਬਸੈ ॥੧॥
- Sri Sat Nam Karta Purakh Gur Ramdas Chithey Basey
- Conclusions regarding Vaheguru, Satguru, Sriguru in Bhattan Dey Swayeay
- Bhatts had come from South India and they stayed with Guru Arjun for a couple of years before they penned their praise in Swayeays (refer Bhai Gurdas)
- Words are used to call out/refer to Guruji
- Used to express Greatness, Magnificience, Awe, Amazement of Guruji
- The metaphors used are from their (Bhatts) existing canvas (Vedic)
- What is the logic of repeated chanting of ‘Vaheguru’
- To repeatedly call out Guruji or repeatedly express Greatness, Magnificience, Awe, Amazement – on what grounds? To flatter or please the Guru?
- Vah Vah Vah as just for the sake of repeating Vah/ Jup as chanting is meaningless and forced without knowing the virtues of the Guru
- Enlightened Vah after understanding /Jup as realising – (Nanak Gya Japey Jaye). Bhatts were mesmerised AFTER knowing the Guru’s virtues so their utterances are meaningful and spontaneous. They couldn’t help but say Vah at the Guru’s Magnificience!
- Vaheguru as Gurmantar Re: Bhai Gurdas 13-2
- ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਹੈ ਜਪਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਖੋਈ।
- Vaheguru Gur Mantar Hai Jup Satsang Viloyee
- Magnificient Guru, You are My Mantar (here Mantar is used as in within Gurbani)
- Meaning of word Mantar in Gurbani Framework as opposed to Meaning outside of Gurbani
- in Gurbani it means Shabad/Bani/Guru/Message/ Advice/Primary Direction/Basics (as a guide to myself), NOT a continuum of Jantar, Mantar, Tantar
- in Gurbani the objective is for internal/self change and NOT external change or effect
- in Gurbani the applicability is for understanding and applying and NOT repetive recital/chanting
- In Gurbani ‘Mantar’ is translated as spiritual advice/guidance/ direction – from Sanskrit word ‘Mantari’ meaning advice.
- So if I accept the words Mool Mantar it would mean that the words are my primary root advice/spiritual guidance that I have to believe in and apply in my life
- If I accept the word Gurmantar it would mean that the Guru is my Mantar, my guide, who gives me my direction ……
- And Vaheguru Mantar Hai means ‘Vah You are my Magnificent Guru/guide who has made me realise the true message’
- Examples of ‘Mantar’ in SGGS
- ਗੁਰਿ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਸਚੁ ਦੀਤਾ ਰਾਮ ॥ SGGS 576
- Gur Mantar Shabd Sach Deeta Raam ||
Guru gave the shabad as mantar (spiritual guidance/message that creates enlightenment) that made me realise the true Creator within me
- ਸਚੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਤੁਮਾਰਾ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ SGGS 562
- Sach Mantar Tumara Amrit Banee ||
The true mantar (spiritual guidance/message) is in the reading, understanding, internalising and applying of banee
- ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਸਬਦਿ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਨ ॥ SGGS 864
- Gur Key Shabd Mantar Mun Maan || a
Fully accept and obey the mantar (spiritual guidance) that is in the Guru’s Shabad (enlightenment)
- ਬਾਣੀ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਮਹਾ ਪੁਰਖਨ ਕੀ ਮਨਹਿ ਉਤਾਰਨ ਮਾਂਨ ਕਉ ॥ SGGS 1208
- Banee Mantar Mha Purkhan Kee Maneh Utaran Maan Kao ||
Banee is the mantar (spiritual guidance to create enlightenment) of elevated and spiritually enlightened souls
- ਬੀਜ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਸਰਬ ਕੋ ਗਿਆਨੁ ॥ SGGS 274
- Beej Mantar Sarab Ko Gyaan ||
The seed, essence, root, of spiritual knowledge is in the mantar (spiritual guidance, banee, shabad, message)
- What is ਜਪੁ Jup? Does ਜਪੁ mean chant?
- Bhai Gurdas 437
- Khand Khand Kahey Jehba Swad Metho Aivey Agun Agun Kajhey Seet Na Binas Hai
By repeating/chanting word ‘sugar sugar,’ the tongue cannot taste sweetness, and repeating ‘fire fire’ cannot get warmth in the cold, similarly repeating ‘doctor doctor’ cannot get better from sickness etc
- Bhai Gurdas 542
- Taisey Gyan Gosat Kahet Na Rahet Pavey Karnee Pardhan Bhan Udat Akas Hai
In Sikhi it is the realising/accepting/walking (Karnee Pardhan) NOT recitation …..
(Philosopher in Sanskrit is adarshanik from daras – philosophy/ message)
- Bhatt SGGS 1410
- ਤਤੁ ਬਿਚਾਰੁ ਯਹੈ ਮਥੁਰਾ ਜਗ ਤਾਰਨ ਕਉ ਅਵਤਾਰੁ ਬਨਾਯਉ ॥
- ਜਪ੍ਯ੍ਯਉ ਜਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਅਰਜੁਨ ਦੇਵ ਗੁਰੂ ਫਿਰਿ ਸੰਕਟ ਜੋਨਿ ਗਰਭ ਨ ਆਯਉ ॥੬॥
- Tatt Bichar Yahey Mathura Jug Taran Kao Avtar Banayeo.
- Japeyo Jin Arjun Dev Guru Fir Sangkat Jon Garabh Na Aiyo.
Mathura Bhatt says the essence (tatt bichar) is that who realises /accepts (japeyo) Guru Arjun as guide/messenger/guru will not encounter (garab) any obstacles (jon) in his spiritual mindset (sangkat).
- Conclusions
- Manglacharan and Mool Mantar are both man-made labels
- Gurus did NOT label the preamble as such
- Words ‘Mool, Mantar, Mool Mantar, Manglacharan’ are Not found in the preamble that is used 568 times in SGGS
- If we agree to refer to the preamble as ‘Mool Mantar’ it has to come from the application of the Gurbani Framework (Grammar-based and internal validity within Gurbani) and thus its meaning is the Shabad/Banee/Guru as the ‘primary/basic/root of all things –God.’
- Meaning of ਜਪੁ Jup in SGGS is
- Banee titled ਜਪੁ Jup
- Defined in 38 Pauris, 2 Saloks, 2600 words, 7 pages in a process of knowing and NOT Chanting
Believing (maney in 4 Pauris)
Accepting (panch parwan panch pardhan )
Internalising (sodar keha so ghar keha)
Walking (Nanak geya japey jaye)
Living (last salok/ jini nam thiayaa)
- Jup/Jaap ਜਪੁ ਜਪਿ
- ਨਾਨਕ ਗਇਆ ਜਾਪੈ ਜਾਇ ॥੩੪॥ SGGS 7
- Nanak Gayea Japey Jaye
ਨਾਮੁ Naam does NOT mean name but attributes, virtues /gunns
- ਵਿਸਰੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਦਾਤਾਰ ਆਪਣਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਦੇਹੁ ॥ SGGS 762
- ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਾ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਚਾਉ ਏਹੁ ॥੮॥੨॥੫॥੧੬॥
- Visar Nahi Dataar Aapna Naam Deh
- Gun Gavan Din Raat Nanak Chao Eh
- ਜਪਿ ਮਨ ਮੇਰੇ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ SGGS 192
- Jup Munn Merey Gobind Kee Banee
O mind of mine, realise/understand the Banee
- ਪਰਭਾਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਚਰਣ ਧਿਆਇ ॥ SGGS 1099
- ਜਨਮ ਮਰਣ ਮਲੁ ਉਤਰੈ ਸਚੇ ਕੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ ॥੧॥
- Parbhatey Prabh Naam Jup Gur Key Charan Dhiaye
- Janum Marun Mul Utrey Sachey Key Gunn Gaye
Parbhatey (time when realisation comes) that I need to Realise God/ enlightenment (Naam Jup) Guru is messenger. Charan (feet show direction – so it means the message) and Gunn Gaye is explaining how to Naam Jup (realisation)
- ਸਿਮਰਿ ਮਨਾ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਚਿਤਾਰੇ ॥ SGGS 803
- ਬਸਿ ਰਹੇ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਗੁਰ ਚਰਨ ਪਿਆਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
- Simar Munna Raam Nam Chitarey
- Buss Rahey Hirdey Gur Charan Pyare
Simran (remember/keep in mind) the gunns/attributes (Naam) of Raam the creator. Gur Charan is the
direction/message /shabad from Banee.
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