yes, he did, absolutely right, however, as hypocrisy, ritual and superstition form a large part of any religion, by default, there needed to be some distance, some obvious distinction between Sikhism and other religions that were heavy on these
I think what he was boycotting was the humanisation of religion
again I absolutely agree
No, I only ask you to quote when I don't agree with you and you have your opinions dressed up as fact, but then applies equally to everyone including me.
a deity is a deity, in this context I am talking about using images or matter to personify God.
I am afraid the controversy is where the action is
we have different takes and are at different stages in our lives, I am at the stage where I question everything, I have no faith at all in anything, I trust nothing, all I know is what I have learned over the last 46 years, but what I do know, and what I do put my faith in, is sacrosanct, therefore it needs to be true.
well, if he did it changes a lot, how can it not?
well we can say at least one was....
important question, it raises trust issues, trust is very important, as is confidence, confidence in what you believe in
that one is pretty irrelevant.
the following content:-
“je te bidh ta mo man lina aan milai kuwar ke dina Bhant bhant te tahe rijhayo char pehar nis bhog kamayo(7) Kel karat nis sakal bihani karat kaam ki kot kahani Bhant bhant ke aasan kar ke kaam tapt sabh hi keh har ke(8) Bhor bhayo rajni jab gayi bhant bhant chirayi chuchai Samrit bhaye dou kel kamate eke sej soye ras maate(9) Sowat tryag nindi jab jage mil kar kel karan tab lage Aasan karat anek parkara kokun te das gun bistara”(10) (charitar 289)
“sri triya raaj mati te nama ,naino naam jatt ki bama Sahar jahanbad base we ,darbwan doot maan rahe we Sauda karan tahi pathayo, ek rupaya haath diwayo Ek huto the thaan ko jogi, nangi kar nari tin bhogi” (charitar 45)
There was a female named raj mati, wife of jatt named naino. She lived in jahanbad and was known to be very beautiful and rich. Jatt send her to fetch something and gave her a rupee. There used to live a jogi, who stripped her naked and had sex with her.
Dohara “kazi ik Kashmir main taa ki istri ek Jantar mantar ar basikar janat huti anek”
There was a kazi in Kashmir who had a wife who knew lot of jantar, mantar.
Chaupai Adal Muhammd naam tavan pati , nyay shastar ke bich nipun ati Nuram bibi naar tavan ghar , jaa ke saath ramat niti att nar Tin ik jat bhaye rati thani , kachu kazi ki kaan na mani Hazrat aaye tabe lag gayo ,mitre baadh khaath tar layo”
Her husbands name was Adil Mohammad and was expert in imparting justice.She had a wife nuram bibi with whom lot of men used to make love. She made up her mind to have intercourse with a jat and didn’t give a damn about kazi.When she was having sex ,kazi came back, she tied jat and hid her under her bed.
Dohara “aap musaf bachat bhai jat khaat tar baadh Kazi ko mohit kiya baan drigan ke saadh”
She starting reading quran with jat under her bed and seduced kazi by shooting arrows with her eyes.
Chaupai “khaat upper kazi baithayo , kaamkel taa so upjayao Taa ki kaan na aanat mane, moorakh chot chatakan gane”
She made kazi sit on the bed and without caring about jat under her bed, started having sexual intercourse with kazi. Stupid jat started counting the bang-bang from beneath the bed.
Dohara “kaam bhog kar kaziya dina bahur utthai Khaat tare te kaad kar jat layo urr layi”
After having sex with kazi she took jat from beneath the bed and embraced him.
Chaupai “sun le meet bachan te mera, main kazi ko buhat labera Ta keh bahu jutiyan so mara, ta te utthat tadako bhara”(charitar 46)
Then she said, my friend! Listen , I gave kazi a solid beating with jutti that’s why there was a loud voice of banging.
“tab mohan nij grah chal aayo, adhik anupam bhes banayo Takiyan ki chapti urvashi, mom maar aasan so kasi Bhik ko lep tavan mo kiyo, shiv rijhaye maang kar liyo Jaa ke ang tavan so laage, taa ke le pranan jam bhage Tab lo naar gayi woh aayi, kamatur hai ke laptayi Ta ko bhed kachu na janyo, urbas ko kar purakh pachanyo Taa so bhog adhik jab kino, man mai maan adhik sukh lino Bhik ke chade mat tab bhayi, jam ked ham bikhe chal gayi”(charitar 109)
Then mohan came back to his house, urvashi then made a fake {censored}(vibrator) and tightened it on her genital with wax. She coated that vibrator with poison and got a boon from shiv that who so ever comes in contact with that vibrator ,yam should take his life(die).In the mean time the other woman came, she was so much overcome by lust that she could not find that urvashi is not a man and started having sex to her hearts content and died because of poison.
“bhej sahchari tahi bulayo nij sadan Kaam bhog te sang kariyo triya chhori mann Bhant bhant ke aasan laye sudhar ke Ho chumban lingan kiye mat kok bichari ke”(charitar 119)
now to you the above might be a cheesy controversy, but to me it does not sit well, in fact, I find it hard to believe that the tenth master wrote the above, how can I ignore it? so the search is for the truth, always for the truth.
so , just to confirm it is your belief that there are angels or celestial beings in Sikhism
this I do not understand, on the one hand, the subject is debatable, but your first comment gives the impression there is no debate, which is it?
is it important that we know whether they existed or not? does it matter?
maybe they realised everything was a facet of the one,
I can see the point in that, fair answer
well I did not ask whether you worshipped them, but do you believe in them?
well, firstly its not a 'him', its an 'it', secondly, its not for me I have any interest in, I have no goals, plans or even a future, no, its others I have an interest in. I have no difficulties at all, life to me is a bad joke with plenty of funny material, I can recount some extremely sad episodes in my life, and people find it hilarious, I guess its the delivery, but bad things happen for one reason and one alone, it adds to the material.
It is the duality screaming that keeps me alive and keeps my attention on others
