A Question To Gurujee Or Bani Manipulation?

[TigerStyleZ]

Stop abusing Gurbani !!
We all know , out there are many fools wo twist bani for their own interest etc.. We don´t need to make a fun thread out of this... This is bani manipulation as well. Be serious! This topic needs to be discussed seriously, because its misleading and harming many Sikhs.

 

[prakash.s.bagga]

Prakash.S.Bagga ji your logic is flawed as it does not confirm as one has to be one or the other or there are many shades of violence and non-violence. If there are many shades then binary logic is inapplicable.

Example: Something is not "BLACK". It does not imply it is white as it could be pink, blue, red, saffron, etc.

Sat Sri Akal.

Well,thanks for rectifying my thinking.
Prakash.s.Bagga

 

[prakash.s.bagga]

Prakash.S.Bagga ji your logic is flawed as it does not confirm as one has to be one or the other or there are many shades of violence and non-violence. If there are many shades then binary logic is inapplicable.

Example: Something is not "BLACK". It does not imply it is white as it could be pink, blue, red, saffron, etc.

Sat Sri Akal.

Well thanks for rectifying me.
Prakash.s.Bagga

 

[Randip Singh]

Stop abusing Gurbani !!
We all know , out there are many fools wo twist bani for their own interest etc.. We don´t need to make a fun thread out of this... This is bani manipulation as well. Be serious! This topic needs to be discussed seriously, because its misleading and harming many Sikhs.

No one is abusing Bani, and through the humour one can clearly see that there is serious point. So those lunatics who go around gate crashing halls and peoples wedding saying Bani should be respected should target people like those I have illustrated in the very first post by Bhai Manvir Singh ji (UK) .

 

[Randip Singh]

You are considering the idea of Ahmsa as rejected .Where does Guru ji telling us to be Hinsak.?
There is concept of self defence only and this does not amount to be Hinsak rather an action within the concept of Ahimsa.
Prakash.S.Bagga

Ok, how does one reconcile Ahimsa with Self Defence. Ahimsa means non-violence.

Our Tenth Master tells us:

"when all other means have failed, it maybe necessary to draw the sword"

Ahimsa, or Ahem?

 

[Ambarsaria]

Ok, how does one reconcile Ahimsa with Self Defence. Ahimsa means non-violence.

Our Tenth Master tells us:

"when all other means have failed, it maybe necessary to draw the sword"

Ahimsa, or Ahem?

Randip Singh ji thanks for your post. Beyond saying he said so, as history tells us his elder sons died fighting, his Singhs/Khalsa lost many in battles, and hence a Khalsa not afraid to shed blood or lose life or limb was born if the cause so needed.

All these Himsa/Shimsa people are trying to back track from Guru Gobind Singh ji towards pre Guru Nanak Dev ji or in between as convenient to align with Hinduism. It is not rocket science to see or figure out such attempts or even name names of posters. They all know who they are! Like clowns in a circus too afraid to show their true face!:interestedmunda:

Sat Sri Akal.

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Randip Singh ji thanks for your post. Beyond saying he said so, as history tells us his elder sons died fighting, his Singhs/Khalsa lost many in battles, and hence a Khalsa not afraid to shed blood or lose life or limb was born if the cause so needed.

All these Himsa/Shimsa people are trying to back track from Guru Gobind Singh ji towards pre Guru Nanak Dev ji or in between as convenient to align with Hinduism. It is not rocket science to see or figure out such attempts or even name names of posters. They all know who they are! Like clowns in a circus too afraid to show their true face!:interestedmunda:

Sat Sri Akal.

And for all you know the two may come in and now say...OK OK..He says "Draw" the sword..BUT He NEVER said to wound/kill anybody ??..Just draw sword ONLY....there's NO LIMIT to such run arounds/illogical logic...

Khoob khanna kheechhrree....isn't THAT a most BORING diet ?? kichhrree is a diet for SICK people...normally recommended for patients recovering from a sickness...its NOT a norm for healthy persons and certainly Not a daily diet.....So are we being limited to just porridge and Wooden Bread (Roti meri kaath ki) and/or ban on butter (Jinnah khadhee CHOPRREE ghanneh sehngeh dukh - those who use BUTTER on their bread will suffer the direst consequences..a WARNING about CHOLESTEROL/HEART ATTACKS/HIGH BP perhaps ??

A Slippery slope indeed...japposatnamwaheguru:

 

[Randip Singh]

Randip Singh ji thanks for your post. Beyond saying he said so, as history tells us his elder sons died fighting, his Singhs/Khalsa lost many in battles, and hence a Khalsa not afraid to shed blood or lose life or limb was born if the cause so needed.

All these Himsa/Shimsa people are trying to back track from Guru Gobind Singh ji towards pre Guru Nanak Dev ji or in between as convenient to align with Hinduism. It is not rocket science to see or figure out such attempts or even name names of posters. They all know who they are! Like clowns in a circus too afraid to show their true face!:interestedmunda:

Sat Sri Akal.

I personally do not think there was any difference between Guru Nanak or Guru Gobind Singh ji's meassage....

...after all Guru Nanak says:

Guru Nanak wanted to create such a society of man, who could live with dignity, could firmly defend the truth, and should be ready to sacrifice their his life walking on the path of truth. This sort of life is possible only if worldliness and spiritualism are combined together. It is a very difficult way of life about which Guru Nanak says, “If you seek to play the game of love then place your head on your palm then tread on this path. While stepping on this path sacrifice your head ungrudingly.7 We can find so many examples in Sri Guru Granth Sahib which idicate that Miri & Piri both should be combined for the evolution of the perfect human personality and society. In the Bani of Bhagat Kabir, we can see so many indications for the struggle and sacrifice for the establishment of righteousness. Kabir says in Rag Maru, “In the seat of super-consciousness was struck the drum and the weapon hit the target of the heart. As the hero has taken the field, now is the occasion to wage battle. The true is one who fights in defense of the humble; though cut limb after limb, and flees not the field.8 This power is the way for sovereignty.

http://sikhinstitute.org/akaltakht06/7-gurnamkaur.html

 

[Randip Singh]

Khoob khanna kheechhrree....isn't THAT a most BORING diet ?? kichhrree is a diet for SICK people...normally recommended for patients recovering from a sickness...

Gyani ji, I fear that most of our community is ill