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I spell it Panjab rather than Punjab

Panjab is the right way of pronouncing...

 

[masandneer]

dear Brother,
i have read somewhere that hindus from NCR region that time suffering from Aurangzeb cruelty, went to Guru Gobind Singh Ji and requested him for help from the menace of Aurangzeb... So, then Guru ji sent thirty thousand warriors jatts to NCR to fight for them. The region where they stayed is now called as Tees Hazari in New Delhi. After the war ends and peace prevails, they settled in the region and adopt agriculture as there main occupation.
masand neer

 

[Harry Haller]

and I read somewhere that Mother Teresa was actually a man, and wore men's underpants and everything

 

[masandneer]

and I read somewhere that Mother Teresa was actually a man, and wore men's underpants and everything

GET WEll SOON

 

[Harry Haller]

GET WEll SOON

Guru Gobind Singh ji died 1708

The 30,000 Sikhs arrived in Delhi 1783, facebook is a great place for posting things you have read, that you cannot be bothered to actually find out if they are true.

 

[Tejwant Singh]

Your community can go to any Gurdwara and convert to Sikhi if the “Sikhs” do not believe you are Sikhs.
This will help you and your tribe manifolds.
No one can take away that from you.

All the marginalized Sikh communities should do the same in defiance to the honchos of Sikhi themselves who have made you an outcast.

 

[Dalvinder Singh Grewal]

Ajay 36,
If the History described by you is correct, You must feel proud of being associated with S. Hari Singh Nalwa the greatest general of his time.

 

[Vipin Mander]

Grewal sir,

pacchade jatts had an unfortunate history, and the truth is mostly unknown.pacchaade jats came to western UP, around 1837-40, not before that. pacchade jatts were the soldiers, who were with 'hari singh nalwa', the great sikh jatt commander, in 1837. nalwa was betrayed by gulab singh, because nalwa was the governor of kashmir, and to get kashmir it was necessary to kill nalwa. when nalwa was fighting in 1837 with 3000 [three thousand soldiers] with 50,000 + [fifty thousand plus] soldiers of afghans, several messengers were sent by nalwa for help, but the messengers got killed by gulab singh, and the message of ongoing war could not reach to ranjit singh.

on the first day of war nalwa pushed back the huge 50000 + army of afghans with his 3000 soldiers, but in the evening [not during fight] when nalwa was walking around the fort an afghan shot him at a very close range, because a khatri soldier was the mole of gulab singh, who allowed the entry of afghan near the jattha. In several days when it became clear to nalwa that he would not survive, and even no help arrived [as the message of war could not reach ranjit singh] then he told his soldiers that go back for now. most of them were jatt soldiers; they told him that they would not leave their commander, but nalwa ordered them to go back saying that if they die with him it would go in vain, and he told them to strike back and win the rest of afghanistan. the soldiers started to return with heavy heart, because till now a considerable part of afghanistan was under ranjit singh's empire and soldiers also had their families with them at some backwards forts, and they also had the possession over land their.

now when the moles informed gulab singh of the death of nalwa, he informed ranjit singh the nalwa got killed, and he also told him that the soldiers of nalwa had betrayed nalwa, and joined hands with afghans. ranjit singh was furious, and he sent the forces to kill and capture these 3000 soldiers who were returning .these 3000 soldiers were utterly surprised when they got to know the farman of their capture and kill, and some of them were captured and killed. seeing no other way, the remained soldiers took their way towards india hideously on the hinges of Panjab, because going through mainland Panjab meant that they would be killed. The entire Punjab was furious because they thought that these soldiers had betrayed nalwa, so even on the hinges [outskirts of Punjab] as soon as people got to know about them people attacked them, so these soldiers kept moving but they could not go to sindh as it was desert, so they moved towards jaipur side by side. Before Jaipur, these soldiers had to fight on the outskirts of malwa panjab, then they had to fight at jaipur with jatts of malwa panjab. a bloody fight took place at jaipur where the second in command of these soldiers got killed, and even other side suffered a lot.

It was only after reaching western up the soldiers could settle down, because sikhis empire expanded around current day haryana border only, and they were safe.

There soldiers were PACCHADE JATT. they were called pachade not because they they came from west but because this name literally was 'pashade', which was accusingly given to them to insult them as pashai is a tribe in afghanistan which was traditionally considered as low.

This is the truth of pachhade jatts, and it also explains, why many panjabis dislike them, and why we don't have a single relative in Panjab, and why there was no communication with Panjab.

Later on most of these sikh jatts converted to hinduism. Some of our grandfather, great grandfather tell us that when they left afghanistan and their commander nalwa, almost every soldier was weeping [jad afghanistan te aaye ta ronde hoye hi aaye] .

And, the promise to capture back afghanistan and avenge the martyrdom of commander Nalwa is still unfulfilled.

And, there are some of them like me, who have to technically write themselves as hindus [no disrespect to hinduism] but who fell like Sikh, whose blood has Sikhi, and who will possibly go back to their original faith Sikhism.

It is the story of pachade jatts, who were despised by their own Jatt brothers on the false accusation of betrayal.

NOTE- I spell it Panjab rather than Punjab.

Dear All ,
As you are telling that pacchade came to UP after 1837 and these were the soldiers with Nalwa ji then it is wrong . I belong to the same community and have record that our families are staying here before this time Stamp given by you ,you may check on google about Sant Mahatma Gangadas ji ,I belong to his family ,he was borned in 1823 in village Rasoolpur Bhalolpur ,district Hapur ,UP in the family of Punjabi Jatt mander gottra.
He is a great poet of khadi boli.
His date of birth is basant panchmi 1823 lots of books are available of him to prove this and we used to celebrate his birthday on the same day.

It means we are shifted here before Nalwa ji's Martyard.

It is a decade has been passed ,according to me we belong to the Punjab/Sindh which is now part of Pakistan and no one can tell the exact location .it need some study .
Please reply
Regards,
Vipin Mander