so, just as an education, are you saying that the people around you are irrelevant? If you look only at the present moment, to me, that means you have no future planned, you have no interest in the future, I don't know if you have kids, but how does that affect them, do you intend to have kids? I assume that this path is more important than the ties that keep most people?
not quite sure where you got the idea that i think people around me are irrelevant lol Gurbani is my anchor...it tells me to lead a normal life...but to stamp on the 5 thieves so that i become a more truthful, trustworthy member of society. but on a personal level...Gurbani says God is within you...if you seek Waheguru, look within...which to me sounds very personal...well initially anyway...but i guess if you find what you're looking for within...you then understand what is within everyone else...would that result in a better me? would i interact with the world differently knowing (and i mean really knowing...not just saying it) what i am, and what everyone else is..all being God...
i don;t have kids...maybe one day..guess i will know when i'm ready..
live, enjoy my hobbies and interests....work, learn...spend money....eat little...sleep little...and anything that is left over money wise...share a little save the rest.
do i plan what car i want next....what type of house i want to work towards...nope...but my wife does...it doesn't help with her anxiety....she thinks i'm the strange one....
my current house needs working on...and i'm enjoying the challenge of getting it all done...the present day is more important..
if anything changes...then when that moment arrives...then financially anything i have saved due to eating less...sleeping less...and living a simpler life...i'll have something to fall back on if needed...or finances to buy a car when my current car packs in

or a bigger house if my kids keep running into walls...
do i sit around worrying about these things...setting targets....nope...not any more...
not saying this is right or wrong...just how i've become...
the path is not more important that the ties within life...
the ties are part of the path....they move you a long the path...it is not one or the other...just like anything in life you can set priorities...
this is at odds with the message I get, as a side expedition, it works well, knowing yourself, in my view, is vitally important, but where is the caution to those that make it an obsession, where it becomes the priority, the journey itself?
you go through all your life being told what is, and how to do things, and what the limits are to our existence....then you open up gurbani...and it shatters it all...saying "yo dude...this is not the whole truth...believe me...do you want to know what the majority of the world doesn't? " ... then its up to the person reading to decide if they want to or not...a choice we make..
no, I am pretty sure I knew what I was saying, its quite simple, but I can put it in another way if it is easier, a cup may contain scotch, but that is what it is, a cup that contains scotch, it will never be scotch, so we all have god within us, but that does not make us god, in fact, the best one can hope for is connection, you have your methods, I have mine, but I am under no illusion that I am mostly surrounded by those that are not and make little effort at any connection. Present company excepted of course.
you see one way...i see another...maybe we're both correct
when i read Gurbani, this is what i see:
God is the ocean...he says "hey...here i am as wave number 1....and there i am as wave number 2...and so on" ... depending on how hard ones Ego has developed, the wave either feels and understand what it really is (self realization and as a result God realization)...or the boundary is clearly defined and set hard...and the wave questions the existence of the ocean and cannot comprehend that there is only One...the mind and its ego fights for its independant existence...an existence to compete..to win...the be better that the rest...for its survival..
I guess when you have an agenda, things get blurred, I consider myself agenda less, could you say the same?
why use the word agenda?
i'm told something...and i doing the experiment to find out...its that simple....what agenda is there? does a scientist have an agenda when deciding to see what happens when two different chemicals are mixed? or is he/she just interested in finding out what happens?
I am not desperate for anything, what are you desperate for? whats your story?
not desperate....just interested, excited, wonder struck at knowing there is more to this who shizzle than i ever expected...