Gur Prasad

[spnadmin]

sadhu ji

Please explain why Guruji says:

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਰੂੜੋ ਮਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਰੰਗੋ ਲੋੜੈ ॥
roorro man har rango lorrai ||
My beautiful mind longs for the Love of the Lord.

ਗਾਲੀ ਹਰਿ ਨੀਹੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
gaalee har neehu n hoe || rehaao ||
By mere words, the Lord's Love does not come. ||Pause||

ਹਉ ਢੂਢੇਦੀ ਦਰਸਨ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਬੀਥੀ ਬੀਥੀ ਪੇਖਾ ॥
ho dtoodtaedhee dharasan kaaran beethhee beethhee paekhaa ||
I have searched for the Blessed Vision of His Darshan, looking in each and every street.

ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਭਰਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ਹੇ ॥੧॥
gur mil bharam gavaaeiaa hae ||1||
Meeting with the Guru, my doubts have been dispelled. ||1||

ਇਹ ਬੁਧਿ ਪਾਈ ਮੈ ਸਾਧੂ ਕੰਨਹੁ ਲੇਖੁ ਲਿਖਿਓ ਧੁਰਿ ਮਾਥੈ ॥
eih budhh paaee mai saadhhoo kannahu laekh likhiou dhhur maathhai ||
I have obtained this wisdom from the Holy Saints, according to the pre-ordained destiny inscribed upon my forehead.

ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਨੈਣ ਅਲੋਇ ॥੨॥੧॥੧੮॥
eih bidhh naanak har nain aloe ||2||1||18||
In this way, Nanak has seen the Lord with his eyes. ||2||1||18||

Ang 715

Here are 4 more references to mind which are positively disposed toward the mind. The underlined give you the links to the entire shabad for each example.

Page1197 Line 6 Raag Sarang: Guru Nanak Dev

ਜਬ ਕੀ ਰਾਮ ਰੰਗੀਲੈ ਰਾਤੀ ਰਾਮ ਜਪਤ ਮਨ ਧੀਰੇ ॥੨॥
jab kee raam rangeelai raathee raam japath man dhheerae ||2||
Since I came to be imbued with the Love of my Beautiful Lord, I meditate on the Lord, and my mind is encouraged. ||2||

Here Guruji explains how to encourage the mind.

Page1255 Line 2 Raag Malaar: Guru Nanak Dev

ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਹਾਇਆ ॥
man bhaavai sabadh suhaaeiaa ||
The Word of the Shabad is so very beautiful; it is pleasing to my mind.

In this one Guruji explains how to please the mind through the Shabad.


Page1362 Line 16 Raag Funhay: Guru Arjan Dev

ਸੁੰਦਰ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਿਰਾਜਿਤ ਪੇਖਿ ਮਨੁ ਬੰਚਲਾ ॥
sundhar purakh biraajith paekh man banchalaa ||
Gazing upon the Beautiful Lord relaxing there, my mind was charmed and fascinated.

In this one it is a good thing that the Beautiful Lord charms and fascinates the mind.


Page1425 Line 18 Raag Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek: Guru Arjan Dev

ਜਿਨੀ ਸਚੁ ਅਰਾਧਿਆ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਫਬ ॥੧੪॥
jinee sach araadhhiaa naanak man than fab ||14||
Those who worship and adore the True Lord, O Nanak, their minds and bodies are beautiful. ||14||

In the last example, the mind and the body become beautiful through worship and adoration of Kartar Purakh.

Why would Kartar Purakh create something that can become even more beautiful than it is, if this mind were worthless. If one has no mind, there is no way that one can appreciate the greatness of the Creator of Everything (including your mind).

 

[sadhu]

aad0002 ji

Please explain why Guruji says:

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
ik oankaar sathigur prasaadh ||
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਰੂੜੋ ਮਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਰੰਗੋ ਲੋੜੈ ॥
Source:: Sikhism Philosophy Network http://www.sikhism.us/questions-and-answers/24132-gur-prasad.html
roorro man har rango lorrai ||
My beautiful mind longs for the Love of the Lord.

ਗਾਲੀ ਹਰਿ ਨੀਹੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
gaalee har neehu n hoe || rehaao ||
By mere words, the Lord's Love does not come. ||Pause||

ਹਉ ਢੂਢੇਦੀ ਦਰਸਨ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਬੀਥੀ ਬੀਥੀ ਪੇਖਾ ॥
ho dtoodtaedhee dharasan kaaran beethhee beethhee paekhaa ||
I have searched for the Blessed Vision of His Darshan, looking in each and every street.

ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਭਰਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ਹੇ ॥੧॥
gur mil bharam gavaaeiaa hae ||1||
Meeting with the Guru, my doubts have been dispelled. ||1||

ਇਹ ਬੁਧਿ ਪਾਈ ਮੈ ਸਾਧੂ ਕੰਨਹੁ ਲੇਖੁ ਲਿਖਿਓ ਧੁਰਿ ਮਾਥੈ ॥
eih budhh paaee mai saadhhoo kannahu laekh likhiou dhhur maathhai ||
I have obtained this wisdom from the Holy Saints, according to the pre-ordained destiny inscribed upon my forehead.

ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਨੈਣ ਅਲੋਇ ॥੨॥੧॥੧੮॥
eih bidhh naanak har nain aloe ||2||1||18||
In this way, Nanak has seen the Lord with his eyes. ||2||1||18||

Ang 715

Here are 4 more references to mind which are positively disposed toward the mind. The underlined give you the links to the entire shabad for each example.

Page1197 Line 6 Raag Sarang: Guru Nanak Dev

ਜਬ ਕੀ ਰਾਮ ਰੰਗੀਲੈ ਰਾਤੀ ਰਾਮ ਜਪਤ ਮਨ ਧੀਰੇ ॥੨॥
jab kee raam rangeelai raathee raam japath man dhheerae ||2||
Since I came to be imbued with the Love of my Beautiful Lord, I meditate on the Lord, and my mind is encouraged. ||2||

Here Guruji explains how to encourage the mind.

Page1255 Line 2 Raag Malaar: Guru Nanak Dev

ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਹਾਇਆ ॥
man bhaavai sabadh suhaaeiaa ||
The Word of the Shabad is so very beautiful; it is pleasing to my mind.

In this one Guruji explains how to please the mind through the Shabad.


Page1362 Line 16 Raag Funhay: Guru Arjan Dev

ਸੁੰਦਰ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਿਰਾਜਿਤ ਪੇਖਿ ਮਨੁ ਬੰਚਲਾ ॥
sundhar purakh biraajith paekh man banchalaa ||
Gazing upon the Beautiful Lord relaxing there, my mind was charmed and fascinated.

In this one it is a good thing that the Beautiful Lord charms and fascinates the mind.


Page1425 Line 18 Raag Salok Vaaraan and Vadheek: Guru Arjan Dev

ਜਿਨੀ ਸਚੁ ਅਰਾਧਿਆ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਨਿ ਤਨਿ ਫਬ ॥੧੪॥
jinee sach araadhhiaa naanak man than fab ||14||
Those who worship and adore the True Lord, O Nanak, their minds and bodies are beautiful. ||14||

In the last example, the mind and the body become beautiful through worship and adoration of Kartar Purakh.

Why would Kartar Purakh create something that can become even more beautiful than it is, if this mind were worthless. If one has no mind, there is no way that one can appreciate the greatness of the Creator of Everything (including your mind).

The word "Mind" OR "Mann" has a different meaning when it comes in various places in gurugranth sahib. It means "consciousness" in the gurbani.
That is why it also comes
""MANN TU JOT SARUP HAIN
APNA MOOL PACHHAAN""

When i say "mind", i mean the "'maya'" by the gurbani language.
When i say mind then i dont mean consciousness, because you cannot drop your consciousness. You yourself are the consciousness, so how can you drop it?
When i say mind, i am talking about the useless garbage of maya, that has gathered on your consciousness. That has blinded away your consciousness. That has made your consciousness dull and insensitive to the gurprasad.

So let me say it in a more clear way.
Drop the maya from your consciousness, to feel the eternal bliss.
And remember, You were born with your pure consciousness, but you yourself gathered all the dust of maya over it. You gathered layers and layers of maya over it. You gathered layers and layers of wordly attachments over it, layers of desires and expectations, layers of lust, layers of anger, layers of greed, layers of your past memories.

You will have to clean all this if you want the god to enter your home of consciousness. You will have to throw all this garbage out, if you want the gurprasad to enter your being. And you have nothing else in your consciousness except this garbage, so when you drop it, you become utterly empty. And in this very emptiness the gurprasad flows in.

ang 1427
ਜਿਹਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਮਮਤਾ ਤਜੀ ਸਭ ਤੇ ਭਇਓ ਉਦਾਸੁ ॥

jihi maaeiaa mamathaa thajee sabh thae bhaeiou oudhaas ||
One who renounces Maya and possessiveness and is detached from everything
9 Salok Guru Teg Bahadur

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੁਨੁ ਰੇ ਮਨਾ ਤਿਹ ਘਟਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੧੮॥
kahu naanak sun rae manaa thih ghatt breham nivaas ||18||
- says Nanak, listen, mind: God abides in his heart. ||18||
9 Salok Guru Teg Bahadur

 

[Astroboy]

The mind is so much absorbed in maya, that it is impossible to separate them. Infact mind itself is nothing but maya. You will have to drop it all together. You will have to drop the whole wall of maya and mind.

The uniqueness of the teachings of SGGS is that all faiths can find something that enlightens their soul. for e.g. a Buddhist will find this verse of great importance to him/her.

|| 1169 ||
Basant, Third Mehl: basant mehlaa 3 teejaa.
A person may take off his clothes and be naked. bastar utaar digambar hog.
What Yoga does he practice by having
matted and tangled hair? jataaDhaar ki-aa kamaavai jog.
If the mind is not pure, what use is it to hold the breath
at the Tenth Gate? man nirmal nahee dasvai du-aar.
The fool wanders and wanders,
entering the cycle of reincarnation again and again. ||1|| bharam bharam aavai moorhHaa vaaro vaar. ||1||

 

[Harpreet_Singh_]

From what I have read:

Sadhuji has had some wonderful spiritual experiences. However, his reference of these experiences to Gurbani is weak. Nevertheless, he speaks from his experiences which are his truth.

 

[Astroboy]

You gathered layers and layers of wordly attachments over it, layers of desires and expectations, layers of lust, layers of anger, layers of greed, layers of your past memories.

You will have to clean all this if you want the god to enter your home of consciousness.

|| 40 || O my Beloved, I live by meditating on Your Name. mayray pareetamaa ha-o jeevaa naam Dhi-aa-ay.
Without Your Name, my life does not even exist.
My True Guru has implanted the Naam within me. ||1||Pause|| bin naavai jeevan naa thee-ai mayray satgur naam drirh-aa-ay. ||1|| rahaa-o.
The Naam is a Priceless Jewel; it is with the Perfect True Guru. naam amolak ratan hai pooray satgur paas.
When one is enjoined to serve the True Guru,
He brings out this Jewel and bestows this enlightenment. satgur sayvai lagi-aa kadh ratan dayvai pargaas.
Blessed, and most fortunate of the very fortunate,
are those who come to meet the Guru. ||2|| Dhan vadbhaagee vad bhaagee-aa jo aa-ay milay gur paas. ||2||
Those who have not met the Primal Being,
the True Guru, are most unfortunate, and are subject to death. jinaa satgur purakh na bhayti-o say bhaagheen vas kaal.
They wander in reincarnation over and over again,
as the most disgusting maggots in manure. o-ay fir fir jon bhavaa-ee-ah vich vistaa kar vikraal.
Do not meet with, or even approach those people,
whose hearts are filled with horrible anger. ||3|| onaa paas du-aas na bhitee-ai jin antar kroDh chandaal. ||3||
The True Guru, the Primal Being, is the Pool
of Ambrosial Nectar. The very fortunate ones
come to bathe in it. satgur purakh amrit sar vadbhaagee naaveh aa-ay.
The filth of many incarnations is washed away, and
the Immaculate Naam is implanted within. un janam janam kee mail utrai nirmal naam drirh-aa-ay.
Servant Nanak has obtained the most exalted state,
lovingly attuned to the True Guru. ||4||2||66|| jan naanak utam pad paa-i-aa satgur kee liv laa-ay. ||4||2||66||

 

[sadhu]

Harpreet singh ji

I agree with you, my references are definitely very weak.
And many of my friends get offended, as i have not given any references.
I feel most of the times that i have offended people instead of making them enthusiastic about the spiritual path.

May be my posts can be of some help for you. But for most, my posts have not been a cause of irritation.

 

[Astroboy]

I feel most of the times that i have offended people instead of making them enthusiastic about the spiritual path.

Sadhu Ji,

Not true. We're all learners (sikhs) who learn from the wisdom of our creator, Lord. God.
Sabh Gobind Hai, .............., ....ek noor te sabh jag upjiya.......,
He dwells in each and every heart, pervading everywhere; He is the nearest of the near.
ghat ghat vaasee sarab nivaasee nayrai hee tay nayraa. || 784 ||

 

[Astroboy]

|| 157 ||

If I were to become a cuckoo, living in a mango tree,
I would still contemplate the Word of the Shabad.
kokil hovaa amb basaa sahj sabad beechaar.

I would still meet my Lord and Master, with intuitive ease;
the Darshan, the Blessed Vision of His Form,
is incomparably beautiful. ||2||
sahj subhaa-ay mayraa saho milai darsan roop apaar. ||2||

If I were to become a fish, living in the water,
I would still remember the Lord, who watches over
all beings and creatures. machhulee hovaa jal basaa jee-a jant sabh saar.

My Husband Lord dwells on this shore, and on the shore beyond;
I would still meet Him, and hug Him close in my embrace. ||3||
urvaar paar mayraa saho vasai ha-o mila-ugee baah pasaar. ||3||

If I were to become a snake, living in the ground, the Shabad
would still dwell in my mind, and my fears would be dispelled.
naagan hovaa Dhar vasaa sabad vasai bha-o jaa-ay.

O Nanak, they are forever the happy soul-brides,
whose light merges into His Light. ||4||2||19||
naanak sadaa sohaaganee jin jotee jot samaa-ay. ||4||2||19||

 

[pk70]

Sadhu ji
You are saying the right thing but got it mixed with mind. Keep the mind but keep its command in your power and do not acknowledge all stuff layered in the mind over time while listening to Guru. This way Guru guidance is coated on other stuff and mind remains perceptive to what Guru says and remains centered at Guru and Guru parsad occurs. Now in the mind or consciousness there is only one thing, that is Guru Advice rest becomes insignificant. Then progression starts. If this awareness is not kept, the old tuff under the coating of Guru Advice, dusts off Guru advice-coating and the mind becomes again perceptive to previous stuff. That is why it is very hard journey, the one who has taken it successfully, for sure realizes Him. That is why it is stressed
ਦਾਨਸਬੰਦੁ ਸੋਈ ਦਿਲਿ ਧੋਵੈ ॥: Daanasaband soee dil dhovai: One who cleanses his own mind is wise (sggs 662).
What is this that needs to be cleaned? It is all the stuff that creates duality and takes away stillness of mind.
For Gurparsad, mind’s Ego must go; its commanding power must cease in other words
ਸਤਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਗਾਖੜੀ ਸਿਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਇ ॥: Satgur kee sevaa gaakharree sir deejai aap gavaai: It is very difficult to serve the Satguru (why? Because to do so, one must) surrender his head (ego or Haume) and give up his selfhood (sggs 27).
Otherwise mind is compared with a mouse living in a hole with so much proud
ਰੇ ਮਨ ਮੂਸ ਬਿਲਾ ਮਹਿ ਗਰਬਤ ਕਰਤਬ ਕਰਤ ਮਹਾਂ ਮੁਘਨਾਂ ॥: Re mann moos bilaa mahi garabat karatab karat mahaan mughanaan: O mind, you are a mouse, living in the mouse hole of the body; you are so proud of yourself, but you act like an absolute fool (sggs 1387).

Therefore
ਊਂਦਰ ਦੂੰਦਰ ਪਾਸਿ ਧਰੀਜੈ ॥: Oonadar doondar paasi dhareejai: Silence the mouse (of false ego) scurrying around within you (sggs 905).
All the trash you mentioned that causes duality must go
ਅੰਦਰਹੁ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦੂਜੀ ਖੋਈ ਸੋ ਜਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗਾ ॥: Andarahu duramat doojee khoee so jan har liv laagaa: One who eliminates evil-mindedness and duality from within himself, that humble being lovingly focuses his mind on the Lord (sggs 768).
Keep the mind but focus its attention at Guru who will enable it to be focused on HIM. Thanks.

 

[spnadmin]

ssadhu ji

You see in this that you have quoted:


ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੁਨੁ ਰੇ ਮਨਾ ਤਿਹ ਘਟਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੧੮॥
kahu naanak sun rae manaa thih ghatt breham nivaas ||18||
- says Nanak, listen, mind: God abides in his heart. ||18||

If god abides in the heart, still the mind must perceive it there. Would Nanak say Listen Mind if the mind were incapable of discernment?

 

[Tejwant Singh]

Sadhu ji

Guru Fateh.

As you refused to give any verses from the SGGS to prove your 'dropping mind' thingy. I have a suggestion to make.

Study Anand Sahib, all of it and you will find some clarity in your thoughts about mind because what I have found in your repeated comments about emptiness is quite nebulous, nothing nitid.

Anand- The Bliss is the true Gur Prasad and Guru Amardas ji gives us the tools how to attain it. We can not drop the tools, we have to pick them up and learn how to use them. Effort does not take place while letting mind empty and let it sit idol.

If we let the engine of the car running and let it sit idol we get no where and pollute the surrounding [SIZE=-1]environment.[/SIZE]

Take Anand Sahib as your steering wheel for the car called Mind. One has to learn how to [SIZE=-1]maneuver [/SIZE]the Mind(Car) in the chaotic traffic called life.

Empty mind means a car without the engine which can not even start, hence impossible to be driven.


Good luck in your journey.


Tejwant Singh

 

[Harpreet_Singh_]

Just a note: Anand Sahib is said to give the devotee Jivan-mukti (liberation while alive).

 

[sadhu]

vaheguruseekr ji
Just a suggestion for you.
i dont think you read my posts attentively, or you are too busy finding flaws in them.

Next time i post something, please read it properly, and then come up with some of your great ideas.

Debate the issues, not the person. Thank you. (aad0002)

 

[Astroboy]

vaheguruseekr ji
Just a suggestion for you.
i dont think you read my posts attentively, or you are too busy finding flaws in them.
Next time i post something, please read it properly, and then come up with some of your great ideas.

Obstacles are what you see, when you take your eyes off your goal. The following shabad on Ang 922 explains:

ਏ ਨੇਤ੍ਰਹੁ ਮੇਰਿਹੋ ਹਰਿ ਤੁਮ ਮਹਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਧਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਕੋਈ ॥
ए नेत्रहु मेरिहो हरि तुम महि जोति धरी हरि बिनु अवरु न देखहु कोई ॥
Ė neṯarahu meriho har ṯum mėh joṯ ḏẖarī har bin avar na ḏekẖhu ko▫ī.
O my eyes, the Lord has infused His Light into you; do not look upon any other than the Lord.

ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਕੋਈ ਨਦਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਨਿਹਾਲਿਆ ॥
हरि बिनु अवरु न देखहु कोई नदरी हरि निहालिआ ॥
Har bin avar na ḏekẖhu ko▫ī naḏrī har nihāli▫ā.
Do not look upon any other than the Lord; the Lord alone is worthy of beholding.

ਏਹੁ ਵਿਸੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ਤੁਮ ਦੇਖਦੇ ਏਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਰੂਪੁ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਰੂਪੁ ਨਦਰੀ ਆਇਆ ॥
एहु विसु संसारु तुम देखदे एहु हरि का रूपु है हरि रूपु नदरी आइआ ॥
Ėhu vis sansār ṯum ḏekẖ▫ḏe ehu har kā rūp hai har rūp naḏrī ā▫i▫ā.
This whole world which you see is the image of the Lord; only the image of the Lord is seen.

ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਬੁਝਿਆ ਜਾ ਵੇਖਾ ਹਰਿ ਇਕੁ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ॥
गुर परसादी बुझिआ जा वेखा हरि इकु है हरि बिनु अवरु न कोई ॥
Gur parsādī bujẖi▫ā jā vekẖā har ik hai har bin avar na ko▫ī.
By Guru's Grace, I understand, and I see only the One Lord; there is no one except the Lord.

ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਏਹਿ ਨੇਤ੍ਰ ਅੰਧ ਸੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਦਿਬ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੩੬॥
कहै नानकु एहि नेत्र अंध से सतिगुरि मिलिऐ दिब द्रिसटि होई ॥३६॥
Kahai Nānak ehi neṯar anḏẖ se saṯgur mili▫ai ḏib ḏarisat ho▫ī. ||36||
Says Nanak, these eyes were blind; but meeting the True Guru, they became all-seeing. ||36||

 

[Astroboy]

Gautama Buddha taught us the middle path.

See what Guru Ji teaches us:

Ang 272

ਅਸਟਪਦੀ ॥
असटपदी ॥
Asatpaḏī.
Ashtapadee:

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਦਾ ਨਿਰਲੇਪ ॥
ब्रहम गिआनी सदा निरलेप ॥
Barahm gi▫ānī saḏā nirlep.
The God-conscious being is always unattached,

ਜੈਸੇ ਜਲ ਮਹਿ ਕਮਲ ਅਲੇਪ ॥
जैसे जल महि कमल अलेप ॥
Jaise jal mėh kamal alep.
as the lotus in the water remains detached.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਦਾ ਨਿਰਦੋਖ ॥
ब्रहम गिआनी सदा निरदोख ॥
Barahm gi▫ānī saḏā nirḏokẖ.
The God-conscious being is always unstained,

ਜੈਸੇ ਸੂਰੁ ਸਰਬ ਕਉ ਸੋਖ ॥
जैसे सूरु सरब कउ सोख ॥
Jaise sūr sarab ka▫o sokẖ.
like the sun, which gives its comfort and warmth to all.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਕੈ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਸਮਾਨਿ ॥
ब्रहम गिआनी कै द्रिसटि समानि ॥
Barahm gi▫ānī kai ḏarisat samān.
The God-conscious being looks upon all alike,

ਜੈਸੇ ਰਾਜ ਰੰਕ ਕਉ ਲਾਗੈ ਤੁਲਿ ਪਵਾਨ ॥
जैसे राज रंक कउ लागै तुलि पवान ॥
Jaise rāj rank ka▫o lāgai ṯul pavān.
like the wind, which blows equally upon the king and the poor beggar.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਕੈ ਧੀਰਜੁ ਏਕ ॥
ब्रहम गिआनी कै धीरजु एक ॥
Barahm gi▫ānī kai ḏẖīraj ek.
The God-conscious being has a steady patience

 

[pk70]

Obstacles are what you see, when you take your eyes off your goal. The following shabad on Ang 922 explains:

ਏ ਨੇਤ੍ਰਹੁ ਮੇਰਿਹੋ ਹਰਿ ਤੁਮ ਮਹਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਧਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਕੋਈ ॥
ए नेत्रहु मेरिहो हरि तुम महि जोति धरी हरि बिनु अवरु न देखहु कोई ॥
Ė neṯarahu meriho har ṯum mėh joṯ ḏẖarī har bin avar na ḏekẖhu ko▫ī.
O my eyes, the Lord has infused His Light into you; do not look upon any other than the Lord.

ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਕੋਈ ਨਦਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਨਿਹਾਲਿਆ ॥
हरि बिनु अवरु न देखहु कोई नदरी हरि निहालिआ ॥
Har bin avar na ḏekẖhu ko▫ī naḏrī har nihāli▫ā.
Do not look upon any other than the Lord; the Lord alone is worthy of beholding.

ਏਹੁ ਵਿਸੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ਤੁਮ ਦੇਖਦੇ ਏਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਰੂਪੁ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਰੂਪੁ ਨਦਰੀ ਆਇਆ ॥
एहु विसु संसारु तुम देखदे एहु हरि का रूपु है हरि रूपु नदरी आइआ ॥
Ėhu vis sansār ṯum ḏekẖ▫ḏe ehu har kā rūp hai har rūp naḏrī ā▫i▫ā.
This whole world which you see is the image of the Lord; only the image of the Lord is seen.

ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਬੁਝਿਆ ਜਾ ਵੇਖਾ ਹਰਿ ਇਕੁ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ॥
गुर परसादी बुझिआ जा वेखा हरि इकु है हरि बिनु अवरु न कोई ॥
Gur parsādī bujẖi▫ā jā vekẖā har ik hai har bin avar na ko▫ī.
By Guru's Grace, I understand, and I see only the One Lord; there is no one except the Lord.

ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਏਹਿ ਨੇਤ੍ਰ ਅੰਧ ਸੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਦਿਬ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੩੬॥
कहै नानकु एहि नेत्र अंध से सतिगुरि मिलिऐ दिब द्रिसटि होई ॥३६॥
Kahai Nānak ehi neṯar anḏẖ se saṯgur mili▫ai ḏib ḏarisat ho▫ī. ||36||
Says Nanak, these eyes were blind; but meeting the True Guru, they became all-seeing. ||36||

namjap Ji
A bundle of thanks for posting the above Guru Bachan.
I am still struggling to have such eyes.................

 

[susan]

Gurfateh Ji,

Personally I was full of myself. Thinking,"yes I believe in God and that should be enough". But I have reallized a whole new look at life since I have accepted Waheguru's Gur Prasad or Hukam if you will. But you can't force it. It has to come easily and with true devotion. These are only my thoughts and beliefs,if I have made any offensive comments please forgive me.

May Waheguru bless one and all.

 

[susan]

Gurfateh Ji

Personally my heart was full of myself, I believed that I believe in God and that should be enough. But NO,now I realize one must have an unconditional love for the Almighty. We all have it within us. it will prosper when it's your time. Don't force it,it has to come naturally. Just like any other relationship in life,you cannot force yourself to love. When you feel this it is true Bliss. Good luck to you and may God bless you with his Naam.
If I have offended anyone with my personal thoughs please forgive me,this is the first time I have replied to any thread.

 

[21khalsa13]

sat shri akaal bhenoo te veero,

a great thread - thank you for all your great insights.

may i be so aggrogant as to offer my two pence worth.

well this seems to have become a thread of two extremes - the battle between logic (sometimes refered to as mind - but basically it is subjective experience - using the left analytical brain) and creative experience(right brain).

what i see here is that you are both right!

yes we need our minds but not so nuch as we give them credit for at the moment
a very poor analogy but here goes.

imagine a dog, the body of the dog is concioussness and the tail is the mind
the dog should wag the tail
right?

however due to the western thinking process the tail has started to wag the dog
ie. the mind is determine what the concioussness should experience. or that the mind is so full of thoughts (good and bad) that the true essence can't be seen - like wearing sunglasses and it seems the world is dim.

maybe the answer is simple. maybe if we can clear our minds and drop our thoughts it is possible to get past our preconditioned thoughts, past our karmic response to life (reactive patterns) and gur prasad flows in. the gurprasad gives our experience and our hukum and we use our minds ( as tools) to follow the hukum in our daily lives.

bul chukk maaf

 

[21khalsa13]

p.s. could this be the essence of miri-piri
using both the right and left brain together and getting a whole experience

i hear the word 'HOLY' comes from the latin 'to be whole'