Guru Bani Translation

[Logical Sikh]

Is there any shabd in SGGS, our only Guru, where any of the Guru's claimed to have divine knowledge?

Well, quite an interesting question....
I do not have answer for that, sir... Yet!

 

[swarn bains]

no

 

[sukhsingh]

Sat Sri Akaal,

O ANG refer to all other generated foms,. Like COSMIC UNIVERSE as ONE complete generated forms are part of it. Like ONE as BODY and body parts as ANG.
Realise as a WHOLE or a UNIT all is ONE

Kar. All done from by off from ONE

Refers doer of transition of energy as source of light sound gas liquid solid. Etc.

All creation is originated from ONE source and all done by Nature

SAT. This is TRUTH

NAAM. Objectively Realised TRUTH in form of WORD. for transedence transference.
ੴ.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Yes but you see the limitations with any translation

 

[ravneet_sb]

 

[ravneet_sb]

 

[ravneet_sb]

Sat Sri Akaal,

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Bull philosphy was rejected.
If the bull takes load of earth.

Than take load earth, how many such celestial bodies are in universe.

How much is the load whick keeps these celestial objects in position and movement.

This was for cocreators who feels themselves in comparison to creator.

Shall realise this, if mystical bull can hold this load with compassion.


Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

 

[ravneet_sb]

Sat Sri Akaal,

Is wrong translation of SGGS beadabi.
Who checks on this.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

 

[Ishna]

Sat Sri Akaal,

Is wrong translation of SGGS beadabi.
Who checks on this.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

That assumes there is just one "right" translation. Furthermore, it assumes there's just one "right" understanding of Gurbani, full stop.

It's a very dangerous road you're on. It's how wars start, my friend.

 

[ravneet_sb]

Sat Sri Akaal,

No there cant be one subjective perception, but there is one objective of perception. For eg take any object say.

Created word cant have two objective meaning. But can have many subjective versions.

Focus is on objective realisation.

Human Body

The perception comes different from

Doctors Engineers CA Cobbler Barber Washerman. But object is same

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

 

[ravneet_sb]

Sat Sri Akaal,
Selling or propagating as a translation to convey objective spirit of idea.
Charan. Kamal Translated as Lord Lotus Feet.
Kaman. As Woman. Portraying woman as cause of lust

May be more learning is required to understand.

How to resolve this part of wrong translation
Is this relates to Beadbi.
Or
Where is check on idea translation


Waheguru Ji Khalsa
Waheguru Ki Ki Fateh

 

[Logical Sikh]

How to resolve this part of wrong translation
Is this relates to Beadbi.
Or
Where is check on idea translation


Waheguru Ji Khalsa
Waheguru Ki Ki Fateh

I think the best way to make a change is by creating a High enough Place/Status for yourself in the community so that when you speak, Everybody listens, As only awareness can make a difference. whether you contribute in literature, Activism, some business whatever, as long as you are not invited on the stage to address the Congregation, i think its hard to tell everyone what is your opinion on certain Topics and make a difference.

 

[ravneet_sb]

Sat Sri Akaal,

Is there a high place there after years of existence, and establishment or yet to be established, and a leader representation of congregation where a concern of a common Sikh can be presented for Activationin process.

Who are key personal
How to contact

They have charge of institutional education Policy maker for discourse.

Is this existing, and posted at all Gurudwara for raising concerns.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

 

[Logical Sikh]

Sat Sri Akaal,

Is there a high place there after years of existence, and establishment or yet to be established, and a leader representation of congregation where a concern of a common Sikh can be presented for Activationin process.

Who are key personal
How to contact

They have charge of institutional education Policy maker for discourse.

Is this existing, and posted at all Gurudwara for raising concerns.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I think Sikh Missionaries are doing a pretty good job about raising Sikh related concerns.

 

[ravneet_sb]

Sat Sri Akaal,

Not fit to address congregation of religious practitiiners,. as only experential learning is there, for which text is already there for experiences expression

As yet weak on hold of languages, but only have concept to share.
For literal discussion, some high literary person is accompanied to share concept and literary understanding

For eg
Nirbhau
but when thought needs in realistic world
Parametres are
TRUTH practice when we follow lie fear is evoked
TIME Followance when we dont follow timelines fear is evoked
Like this what evokes fear and how to build chracter
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

 

[ravneet_sb]

I think Sikh Missionaries are doing a pretty good job about raising Sikh related concerns.

Any contacts and reference of active organisation in Punjab. Who are open to accept, who work for of and by the people.

 

[Logical Sikh]

Any contacts and reference of active organisation in Punjab. Who are open to accept, who work for of and by the people.

Baljeet Singh Delhi and Sarabjit Singh Dhunda are two guys ( that i know of ) who are pass outs from SIKH MISSIONARY COLLEGE, are actively speaking and raising sikh concerns all around the world, and openly appreciate, acknowledges the Sikh missionary college.
and countless other youth who goes un-noticed at Their ( college's ) SAMAGAMS.
no, i dont know if they are public funded or not btw.

 

[A_seeker]

What is "divine knowledge" logically thinking?

Divine Knowledge is to see ,realize your self Who am I?
ਇਉ ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਮਨ ਤੂੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਰੂਪੁ ਹੈ ਅਪਣਾ ਮੂਲੁ ਪਛਾਣੁ ॥੫॥ (sggs 441).

Divine Knowledge can also called as Self Knowledge and it comes from understanding ,Understanding means giving right values to all things and to know oneself (to become Gurmukh )& to help us in this engaging in shabad vichaar is very important