I'm Losing More And More Faith In Sikhism/God Everyday. Please Help!

[Randip Singh]

How do we know that the Gurus performed miracles, how do we know that Guru Nanak Dev Ji's handprint is truly in the boulder at Panja sahib.

He didn't.

How do we know Baba Ram Rai performed 72 miracles,

He didn't

How do we know that Baba Deep Singh Ji was able to carry on living after being beheaded,

he didn't

how do we know Gurbani can truly cure cancer and lead to "supernatural expereinces".

It can't and does not.....however, faith has a great placebo effect.

All tese people who are referred to as "Bhai Ji's" are claimed to have seen god, how do we know it wasnt a hallucination?

God is in all of us, it is up to us to realise "God". Control and defeat the 5 thieves and realise what is already within you.




I would suggest read about Sikhism from rational sources eg Dr Gopal Singh, Dr I J Singh, Patwant Singh etc. You seem to have got your information from Sakhi's which at best are unreliable, and at worst utter nonsense.

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Garbage IN..garbage OUT.....the Most authentic reference to Gurmatt is the GURBANI written and endorsed by the GURU himself. Read THAT and get the REAL STUFF.

 

[Randip Singh]

Garbage IN..garbage OUT.....the Most authentic reference to Gurmatt is the GURBANI written and endorsed by the GURU himself. Read THAT and get the REAL STUFF.

Indeed Gyani ji, it is this one up man ship with miracle making that is making people dissillusioned.

Sikhism is such a down to Earth faith. It does not believe in miracle making. These miracle have polluted Sikhism and distort its message.

If we believe that "higher than truth is truthful living" then there can be no place for miracles.

 

[aristotle]

Recently I have been stressing out over exams and other stuff and not taken a break from my life in the last few months to consider religion, up until the christmas holidays.

I've always considered myself a Sikh and over these holidays ive been thinking alot about religion, how i want to live life and how a Sikh should live their life. While ive been doing this i've just been getting the feeling that everytime something has come to challenge my faith, any controversies ive been convincing and fooling myself to beleive that there is a god and Sikhism is the right path. As a result im starting to feel like my whole life has just been a lie and dedicated to something which is a complete waste. I feel like ive never really been a sikh, just been deluding myself.

The thing is I just havent seen sikhism work, I dont know that its true. In school in history and science lessons were told to look for evidence and look for proof of things working and i just can't find any examples of Sikhi being true.

How do we know that the Gurus performed miracles, how do we know that Guru Nanak Dev Ji's handprint is truly in the boulder at Panja sahib. How do we know Baba Ram Rai performed 72 miracles, How do we know that Baba Deep Singh Ji was able to carry on living after being beheaded, how do we know Gurbani can truly cure cancer and lead to "supernatural expereinces". All tese people who are referred to as "Bhai Ji's" are claimed to have seen god, how do we know it wasnt a hallucination?

My faith has always been suppored by the fact that there is a God, and that Sikhism was founded by the True Gurus who were dent BY God. Perhaps this was naive and the wrong approach, but if theres no evidence that Sikhism works then how are we expected to follow it? As a result im loosing faith, i think the only thing keeping my inside is fear of my family. It would be easy for me to start doing prayer, but im just scared im going to be tricking my own self into beleiving in God, and if im wrong, then I will have wasted even more of my life.

I can't call myself a sikh unless i take the first step and have faith. But i want to have faith can someone please show me the right step to take and how to start beleiveing?

My Brother, Sikhism is a religion of love and sacrifice. One becomes a Sikh the very moment he/she considers himself as a Sikh. If you are steadfast on our love for the Guru, no circumstance whatsoever can shake your faith. ....and there is a very narrow line between faith and blindfaith. So, don't wait for a miracle to happen, you yourself are a miracle, a gift of God to the world. Learn to love, i say again, and you will find yourself as a better Sikh.

 

[texassikhstudent]

As a scientist, I can "see" god everywhere I look. Sikhism provides a logical basis for the vastness of the Universe. Furthermore, science has given evidence that meditation can physically change the structure of your physical and mental mind. Some things are beyond the realm of science as of yet, but our knowledge grows everyday. Some people believe that science and spirituality are incompatible... I can not see that. God created the universe according to the laws of nature... laws that are so intricately perfect mathematically, chemically, etc., that it is hard not to find spirituality from it all. Look at the odds in evolution and you will see how amazing evolution really is! Faith is about looking to teachings for spiritual guidance and deciding what is best for your life! peacesign

 

[sachbol]

twtpgxhz sikhism does not promise you anything. It provides you the tool kit to achieve spirituality including searching for God within and without.

I've always been told that a Sikh person can see god and all doubt can be dispelled by meditation on Naam.
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.... of all 11 Guru's 10 seemed to have performed miracles, and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji hasnt performed any.

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I am very sorry to say that something got mixed up in your guidance about sikhism. Literal meditation on Naam has possibly achieved some results but I believe in my mind, that it kind of closes your mind on discovery and leads you to wait for a flash of light to appear and one says, eureka I have seen God.peacesign
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I do believe you are very honest person and I don't find any offence in your comments.

I will suggest study bani. Try to see the light within. Be good to yourself and see others how you want them to see you.

Sat Sri Akal.

You opened my eyes "Sikhism does not promise you anything. It provides you the tool kit to achieve spirituality including searching for God within and without."
Chamatkars are done by the magecians just for their Rozi-Roti.

 

[Dr.Alta]

I've always considered myself a Sikh and over these holidays ive been thinking alot about religion, how i want to live life and how a Sikh should live their life. While ive been doing this i've just been getting the feeling that everytime something has come to challenge my faith, any controversies ive been convincing and fooling myself to beleive that there is a god and Sikhism is the right path. As a result im starting to feel like my whole life has just been a lie and dedicated to something which is a complete waste. I feel like ive never really been a sikh, just been deluding myself.

The Wholly Marines are their for you. Sikhi without the Sikhism.

 

[Dr.Alta]

How do we know that the Gurus performed miracles, how do we know that Guru Nanak Dev Ji's handprint is truly in the boulder at Panja sahib. How do we know Baba Ram Rai performed 72 miracles, How do we know that Baba Deep Singh Ji was able to carry on living after being beheaded, how do we know Gurbani can truly cure cancer and lead to "supernatural expereinces". All tese people who are referred to as "Bhai Ji's" are claimed to have seen god, how do we know it wasnt a hallucination?

The Perennial Tradition

My faith has always been suppored by the fact that there is a God, and that Sikhism was founded by the True Gurus who were dent BY God. Perhaps this was naive and the wrong approach, but if theres no evidence that Sikhism works then how are we expected to follow it? As a result im loosing faith, i think the only thing keeping my inside is fear of my family. It would be easy for me to start doing prayer, but im just scared im going to be tricking my own self into beleiving in God, and if im wrong, then I will have wasted even more of my life.

I can't call myself a sikh unless i take the first step and have faith. But i want to have faith can someone please show me the right step to take and how to start beleiveing?

A broken clock is still right twice a day. Just because you followed Sikhi for the wrong reasons doesn't mean it's wrong.

Find a satsangat and you will see it work firsthand.[/QUOTE]

 

[Dr.Alta]

if they had seen God surely they would be so enlightened that they would not make mistakes in how they live their lives, yet Professor Darshan Singh Ji was excommunicated, and had a dispute with several other leaders of Sikhi, who by all rights have followed Sikhi, meditated long enough and with enough love on the naam and done enough prayer to have seen God. How can these people who by all rights should be so enlightened have an arguement about Sikhi?

Glimsing The Guru makes you a better person, not a perfect one.

Im not losing faith because i havent seen or experienced God, its becuase i'm beggining to beleive no-one else has. I knowit is wrong to look for a "person" Guru and i know my faith should lie in SGGS Ji, not in a person, of all 11 Guru's 10 seemed to have performed miracles, and SGGS Ji hasnt performed any.

If you where refering to why I founded the Wholly Marines It's because. Nanak's message confirmed everything I already believed in as a child, I even Carried a knife with me and refused to cut my hair on religious grounds! But is was dismayed to find so many Manmukhs in SIkhism.

I know I''ve heard of others wanting to turn their backs to Sikhi because of the hypocrisy of their fellow Sikhs. I want them to know that there is another option.

 

[Dr.Alta]

He didn't.

It can't and does not.....however, faith has a great placebo effect.

It was though meditation on the Gurbani that all science happens.

 

[Logical Sikh]

BRO..... See, this is my interpretation of GURBANI.
First of all none of that shit ever happened that you have doubts on.... talkin' abt baba deep singh holding head in hand while fighting, and gurbani healing cancers and guru nanak's PANJA' nishaan on that ROCK
1. IF Gurbani could heal cancer, why would guru sahib open CLINICS.... read 3rd guru's history.
2. If you say that nishaan OF PANJA is actually of guru sahib's, im an architecture student i've read all about rocks, if there was a nishaan, it would have been eroded by now by the effect of weathering and seasoning.
3. I SAY GURBANI IS PURE LOGIC.

SEE, i'll give meanings of some of the words guru sahib used in BANI for your better understanding.

HUKAM - Laws of Nature

GOD/Eternal Entity - Unreachable, Out Of human's Reach.... Stop trying to make something happy that is already out of your reach, guru sahib has said this tons of time that GOD IS AGAM, APAAR, etc. you cant make someone happy who has no DISPUTE with anyone " NIRVAIR" Eternal entity is already happy with you.

NAAM/ JAP /SAROVAR - Understanding the Message.

GURU ( as of now ) - KNOWLEDGE ( The reading source of SGGS could be anything, be it smartphone, Pothi, Book, anything. BUT GURU IS KNOWLEDGE. )

AARTI - what POOJA/AARTI can you offer while the whole earth itself is giving god its own aarti.

GOD has gave you all the resource that you need to sustain your life, now he isnt gonna come to feed you, you gotta do it by yourself.

THERE IS GOD, YES, I AGREE, but you cant do nothing about it. you cant make him happy by doing anything. what you sow is what you'll get. GOD isn't gonna come and put the spoon in your mouth. You've Got the Raw Material, you are the Entrepreneur now. BE A GOOD MAN, HELP OTHER PEOPLE in their work, LIVE a TRUTHFUL LIFE, BE A STRONG MAN ( be it mentally, physically or financially.).

THIS IS MY CURRENT UNDERSTANDING OF SIKHI, FEEL FREE TO PROVE ME WRONG CUZ SIKHI IS ALWAYS LEARNING AND I WONT REJECT A STRONG ARGUMENT, IF IT HAS ANY LOGIC.

THANKYOU!!