vijaydeep Singh
SPNer
Gurfateh
Dear Brother first let us take care of thing Caste.
Should not Sikh attract the converts from outcaste as deemed by hindus ? Off course if they are converted to us they do not longer remain outcaste.
But we have to communicate to them dear brother, about formless God.
ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
रामकली महला ५ ॥
Rāmkalī mėhlā 5.
Raamkalee, Fifth Mehl:
ਜਪਿ ਗੋਬਿੰਦੁ ਗੋਪਾਲ ਲਾਲੁ ॥
जपि गोबिंदु गोपाल लालु ॥
Jap gobinḏ gopāl lāl.
Meditate on the Lord of the Universe, the Beloved Lord of the World.
ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਤੂ ਜੀਵਹਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਨ ਖਾਈ ਮਹਾ ਕਾਲੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
राम नाम सिमरि तू जीवहि फिरि न खाई महा कालु ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Rām nām simar ṯū jīvėh fir na kẖā▫ī mahā kāl. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Meditating in remembrance on the Lord's Name, you shall live, and the Great Death shall not consume you ever again. ||1||Pause||
ਕੋਟਿ ਜਨਮ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਆਇਓ ॥
कोटि जनम भ्रमि भ्रमि भ्रमि आइओ ॥
Kot janam bẖaram bẖaram bẖaram ā▫i▫o.
Through millions of incarnations, you have come, wandering, wandering, wandering.
ਬਡੈ ਭਾਗਿ ਸਾਧਸੰਗੁ ਪਾਇਓ ॥੧॥
बडै भागि साधसंगु पाइओ ॥१॥
Badai bẖāg sāḏẖsang pā▫i▫o. ||1||
By the highest destiny, you found the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy. ||1||
ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਉਧਾਰੁ ॥
बिनु गुर पूरे नाही उधारु ॥
Bin gur pūre nāhī uḏẖār.
Without the Perfect Guru, no one is saved.
ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਆਖੈ ਏਹੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ॥੨॥੧੧॥
बाबा नानकु आखै एहु बीचारु ॥२॥११॥
Bābā Nānak ākẖai ehu bīcẖār. ||2||11||
This is what Baba Nanak says, after deep reflection. ||2||11||
dear brother do you think that this Mahakal is of Shaktas ?Which is in fact myth.
Does there anything else exist other than God as per Sikhism.
ਪੰਨਾ 48, ਸਤਰ 2
ਮਾਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਜੀਵਾਲਦਾ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਸਾਥਿ ॥
मारि आपे जीवालदा अंतरि बाहरि साथि ॥
Mār āpe jīvālḏā anṯar bāhar sāth.
He Himself bestows life and death; He is with us, within and beyond.
ਮਃ 5 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]ਪੰਨਾ 125, ਸਤਰ 19
ਆਪੇ ਮਾਰੇ ਆਪਿ ਜੀਵਾਏ ॥
आपे मारे आपि जीवाए ॥
Āpe māre āp jīvā▫e.
He Himself kills, and He Himself revives.
ਮਃ 3 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]ਪੰਨਾ 155, ਸਤਰ 9
ਜੀਉ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਸਭ ਰਾਸਿ ਤਿਸੈ ਕੀ ਮਾਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਜੀਵਾਲੇ ॥੬॥੧॥੧੩॥
जीउ पिंडु सभ रासि तिसै की मारि आपे जीवाले ॥६॥१॥१३॥
Jī▫o pind sabẖ rās ṯisai kī mār āpe jīvāle. ||6||1||13||
This soul and body all are His. He Himself kills, and brings back to life. ||6||1||13||
ਮਃ 1 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]ਪੰਨਾ 315, ਸਤਰ 1
ਰਹਦੇ ਖੁਹਦੇ ਨਿੰਦਕ ਮਾਰਿਅਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਆਹਰੁ ॥
रहदे खुहदे निंदक मारिअनु करि आपे आहरु ॥
Rahḏe kẖuhḏe ninḏak māri▫an kar āpe āhar.
By their own efforts, the slanderers have destroyed all remnants of themselves.
ਮਃ 5 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]ਪੰਨਾ 350, ਸਤਰ 5
ਆਪੇ ਮਾਰੇ ਆਪੇ ਛੋਡੈ ਆਪੇ ਲੇਵੈ ਦੇਇ ॥
आपे मारे आपे छोडै आपे लेवै देइ ॥
Āpe māre āpe cẖẖodai āpe levai ḏe▫e.
He Himself kills, and He Himself emancipates; He Himself gives and takes.
ਮਃ 1 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]From the above examples, we find God, does all death. So God only act as super death to those who God only not let have remembrance of God.
ਪੰਨਾ 485, ਸਤਰ 2
ਸਭੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦੁ ਹੈ ਸਭੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦੁ ਹੈ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਈ ॥
सभु गोबिंदु है सभु गोबिंदु है गोबिंद बिनु नही कोई ॥
Sabẖ gobinḏ hai sabẖ gobinḏ hai gobinḏ bin nahī ko▫ī.
God is everything, God is everything. Without God, there is nothing at all.
ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]
Lastly Brother, if you are beaten by some one, will you das as told in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ?
ਫਰੀਦਾ ਜੋ ਤੈ ਮਾਰਨਿ ਮੁਕੀਆਂ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਨ ਮਾਰੇ ਘੁੰਮਿ ॥
फरीदा जो तै मारनि मुकीआं तिन्हा न मारे घुमि ॥
Farīḏā jo ṯai māran mukī▫āʼn ṯinĥā na māre gẖumm.
Fareed, do not turn around and strike those who strike you with their fists.
ਆਪਨੜੈ ਘਰਿ ਜਾਈਐ ਪੈਰ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਦੇ ਚੁੰਮਿ ॥੭॥
आपनड़ै घरि जाईऐ पैर तिन्हा दे चुमि ॥७॥
Āpnaṛai gẖar jā▫ī▫ai pair ṯinĥā ḏe cẖumm. ||7||
Kiss their feet, and return to your own home. ||7||
(Ang 1378)
Brother over here as you talked off the topic so das was compelled to answer you.
Akal Bless.
Dear Brother first let us take care of thing Caste.
Should not Sikh attract the converts from outcaste as deemed by hindus ? Off course if they are converted to us they do not longer remain outcaste.
But we have to communicate to them dear brother, about formless God.
ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
रामकली महला ५ ॥
Rāmkalī mėhlā 5.
Raamkalee, Fifth Mehl:
ਜਪਿ ਗੋਬਿੰਦੁ ਗੋਪਾਲ ਲਾਲੁ ॥
जपि गोबिंदु गोपाल लालु ॥
Jap gobinḏ gopāl lāl.
Meditate on the Lord of the Universe, the Beloved Lord of the World.
ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਤੂ ਜੀਵਹਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਨ ਖਾਈ ਮਹਾ ਕਾਲੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
राम नाम सिमरि तू जीवहि फिरि न खाई महा कालु ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Rām nām simar ṯū jīvėh fir na kẖā▫ī mahā kāl. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Meditating in remembrance on the Lord's Name, you shall live, and the Great Death shall not consume you ever again. ||1||Pause||
ਕੋਟਿ ਜਨਮ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਆਇਓ ॥
कोटि जनम भ्रमि भ्रमि भ्रमि आइओ ॥
Kot janam bẖaram bẖaram bẖaram ā▫i▫o.
Through millions of incarnations, you have come, wandering, wandering, wandering.
ਬਡੈ ਭਾਗਿ ਸਾਧਸੰਗੁ ਪਾਇਓ ॥੧॥
बडै भागि साधसंगु पाइओ ॥१॥
Badai bẖāg sāḏẖsang pā▫i▫o. ||1||
By the highest destiny, you found the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy. ||1||
ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਉਧਾਰੁ ॥
बिनु गुर पूरे नाही उधारु ॥
Bin gur pūre nāhī uḏẖār.
Without the Perfect Guru, no one is saved.
ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਆਖੈ ਏਹੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ॥੨॥੧੧॥
बाबा नानकु आखै एहु बीचारु ॥२॥११॥
Bābā Nānak ākẖai ehu bīcẖār. ||2||11||
This is what Baba Nanak says, after deep reflection. ||2||11||
dear brother do you think that this Mahakal is of Shaktas ?Which is in fact myth.
Does there anything else exist other than God as per Sikhism.
ਪੰਨਾ 48, ਸਤਰ 2
ਮਾਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਜੀਵਾਲਦਾ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਸਾਥਿ ॥
मारि आपे जीवालदा अंतरि बाहरि साथि ॥
Mār āpe jīvālḏā anṯar bāhar sāth.
He Himself bestows life and death; He is with us, within and beyond.
ਮਃ 5 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]ਪੰਨਾ 125, ਸਤਰ 19
ਆਪੇ ਮਾਰੇ ਆਪਿ ਜੀਵਾਏ ॥
आपे मारे आपि जीवाए ॥
Āpe māre āp jīvā▫e.
He Himself kills, and He Himself revives.
ਮਃ 3 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]ਪੰਨਾ 155, ਸਤਰ 9
ਜੀਉ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਸਭ ਰਾਸਿ ਤਿਸੈ ਕੀ ਮਾਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਜੀਵਾਲੇ ॥੬॥੧॥੧੩॥
जीउ पिंडु सभ रासि तिसै की मारि आपे जीवाले ॥६॥१॥१३॥
Jī▫o pind sabẖ rās ṯisai kī mār āpe jīvāle. ||6||1||13||
This soul and body all are His. He Himself kills, and brings back to life. ||6||1||13||
ਮਃ 1 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]ਪੰਨਾ 315, ਸਤਰ 1
ਰਹਦੇ ਖੁਹਦੇ ਨਿੰਦਕ ਮਾਰਿਅਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਆਹਰੁ ॥
रहदे खुहदे निंदक मारिअनु करि आपे आहरु ॥
Rahḏe kẖuhḏe ninḏak māri▫an kar āpe āhar.
By their own efforts, the slanderers have destroyed all remnants of themselves.
ਮਃ 5 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]ਪੰਨਾ 350, ਸਤਰ 5
ਆਪੇ ਮਾਰੇ ਆਪੇ ਛੋਡੈ ਆਪੇ ਲੇਵੈ ਦੇਇ ॥
आपे मारे आपे छोडै आपे लेवै देइ ॥
Āpe māre āpe cẖẖodai āpe levai ḏe▫e.
He Himself kills, and He Himself emancipates; He Himself gives and takes.
ਮਃ 1 - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]From the above examples, we find God, does all death. So God only act as super death to those who God only not let have remembrance of God.
ਪੰਨਾ 485, ਸਤਰ 2
ਸਭੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦੁ ਹੈ ਸਭੁ ਗੋਬਿੰਦੁ ਹੈ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਈ ॥
सभु गोबिंदु है सभु गोबिंदु है गोबिंद बिनु नही कोई ॥
Sabẖ gobinḏ hai sabẖ gobinḏ hai gobinḏ bin nahī ko▫ī.
God is everything, God is everything. Without God, there is nothing at all.
ਭਗਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਵ ਜੀ - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]
Lastly Brother, if you are beaten by some one, will you das as told in Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ?
ਫਰੀਦਾ ਜੋ ਤੈ ਮਾਰਨਿ ਮੁਕੀਆਂ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਨ ਮਾਰੇ ਘੁੰਮਿ ॥
फरीदा जो तै मारनि मुकीआं तिन्हा न मारे घुमि ॥
Farīḏā jo ṯai māran mukī▫āʼn ṯinĥā na māre gẖumm.
Fareed, do not turn around and strike those who strike you with their fists.
ਆਪਨੜੈ ਘਰਿ ਜਾਈਐ ਪੈਰ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਦੇ ਚੁੰਮਿ ॥੭॥
आपनड़ै घरि जाईऐ पैर तिन्हा दे चुमि ॥७॥
Āpnaṛai gẖar jā▫ī▫ai pair ṯinĥā ḏe cẖumm. ||7||
Kiss their feet, and return to your own home. ||7||
(Ang 1378)
Brother over here as you talked off the topic so das was compelled to answer you.
Akal Bless.
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