In Punjabi Exegesis Of Gurbani Based On Sri Guru Granth Sahib-Ik Daataa

[ravneet_sb]

God has a personality of Param Purkh: Kartta Purkh, Akal Purukh: Nirbhau, Nirvair, ajooni, Saibhang. His liking is most important.


ਜੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਊਜਲੀ ਸਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵਣ ਜਾਉ॥ (ਸਿਰੀ, ਮ:੧, ਪੰਨਾ੧੭)

ਜੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਕਾਗਹੁ ਹੰਸੁ ਕਰੇ॥ (ਸਲੋਕਫਰੀਦ, ਪੰਨਾ੧੩੮੪)

ਜੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਦੇ ਵਡਿਆਈ ਜੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਦੇਇ ਸਜਾਇ॥ (ਆਸਾ੧ੱ, ਪੰਨਾ੪੧੭)

ਜੇ ਤੁਧ ਭਾਵੈ ਸਾਹਿਬਾ ਤੂ ਮੈ ਹਉ ਤੈਡਾ॥ (ਆਸਾ੧, ਪੰਨਾ੪੧੮)

ਜੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਾ ਮਹਲਿ ਬੁਲਾਵੈ॥ (ਬਿਲਾਵਲ ਮ: ੧, ਪੰਨਾ੮੩੯)

ਜੇ ਭਾਵੈ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਨਿਥਾਵੇ ਮਿਲੇ ਥਾਉ॥ (ਰਾਮ ੫, ਪੰਨਾ੯੬੪)

ਜੋ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸਾਈ ਭਲੀ ਕਾਰ॥ (ਜਪੁ,ਮ:੧ਪੰਨਾ੩-੪)

ਜੋ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਸਚੁ ਧਰਮਾ॥ਗਉ ਮ: ੫, ਪੰਨਾ੧੮੦)

ਜੋ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋਈ ਕਰਣਾ॥ ( ਗਉ ਮ: ੫, ਪੰਨਾ੧੯੨)

There are many more such quotes to prove the point.

Sat Sri Akaal,
Let's meditate on

ਤੁਧੁ refers to Paramatma or Ones own self.

One do what one likes, if one likes Guru'sbani, one read recite it.
It's own self mind responsible for actions.

Nature shall be not be blamed for self.

 

[Ishna]

What a tragedy? people start quoting me saying 'gurbani has contradictions' which I never and no where said and will never say. This is how the word 'different approaches to Gurbani' is converted to 'contradictions in Gurbani' to fulfill ego of some persons, I presume!

What's the tragedy? I was asking if your post talked about contradictions, that's all.

 

[ravneet_sb]

God has a personality of Param Purkh: Kartta Purkh, Akal Purukh: Nirbhau, Nirvair, ajooni, Saibhang. His liking is most important.


ਜੇ ਤਿਸੁ if one
ਭਾਵੈ will
ਊਜਲੀ ਸਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵਣ ਜਾਉ॥ (ਸਿਰੀ, ਮ:੧, ਪੰਨਾ੧੭)

ਜੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਕਾਗਹੁ ਹੰਸੁ ਕਰੇ॥ (ਸਲੋਕਫਰੀਦ, ਪੰਨਾ੧੩੮੪) this is metaphor that one moves darkness to light.

ਜੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਦੇ ਵਡਿਆਈ ਜੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਦੇਇ ਸਜਾਇ॥ (ਆਸਾ੧ੱ, ਪੰਨਾ੪੧੭) if one. will gives praise
If one will get decorated

ਜੇ ਤੁਧ ਭਾਵੈ ਸਾਹਿਬਾ ਤੂ ਮੈ ਹਉ ਤੈਡਾ॥ (ਆਸਾ੧, ਪੰਨਾ੪੧੮)

ਜੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਾ ਮਹਲਿ ਬੁਲਾਵੈ॥ (ਬਿਲਾਵਲ ਮ: ੧, ਪੰਨਾ੮੩੯)

ਜੇ ਭਾਵੈ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਨਿਥਾਵੇ ਮਿਲੇ ਥਾਉ॥ (ਰਾਮ ੫, ਪੰਨਾ੯੬੪)

ਜੋ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸਾਈ ਭਲੀ ਕਾਰ॥ (ਜਪੁ,ਮ:੧ਪੰਨਾ੩-੪)

ਜੋ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਸਚੁ ਧਰਮਾ॥ਗਉ ਮ: ੫, ਪੰਨਾ੧੮੦)

ਜੋ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋਈ ਕਰਣਾ॥ ( ਗਉ ਮ: ੫, ਪੰਨਾ੧੯੨)

There are many more such quotes to prove the point.

 
Sat Sri Akaal,

Energy is Omnipresent. It's own mind which decides how energy to be used.
Source of energy is available and common to all. It's will to use energy and usage will alter levels within.

 

[ravneet_sb]

Sat Sri Akaal,

Dalvinder Ji,. It is great effort by yourself for exegesis, we as learner's, with Guru'sbani. In this I shall be taken as ignorant and shall be ignored if found false, to evolve truth and purify mind.

Hope effort will be continuous with contradictions in discussion.

One is here to learn as ignorant as a guru one can preach,

but with all contradictions to be made Null,

which Guru'sbani has blessed.
Have to visit Deras mandir church masjids forums places which have followance to discuss on spiritual education and face contradictions on existing practices/rituals.
So this is not new one has to take contradiction for purification.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji ki fateh

 

[Dalvinder Singh Grewal]

What's the tragedy? I was asking if your post talked about contradictions, that's all.

Language must communicate exactly what you suppose to say.

 

[Ishna]

Language must communicate exactly what you suppose to say.

I'm really confused, now.

 

[Dalvinder Singh Grewal]

I'm really confused, now.

My text or answers to questions have no contradictions; neither I have spoke of any contradictions except of what you mentioned. hence please let me know what you want me to clear? What are you confused with? Please clarify in real terms.

 

[Ishna]

My text or answers to questions have no contradictions; neither I have spoke of any contradictions except of what you mentioned. hence please let me know what you want me to clear? What are you confused with? Please clarify in real terms.

Thanks for answering my question.

 

[Original]

For those who can't read Punjabi may I ask if Dalvinder's opening posts claimed there are contradictions in Gurbani?

Ishna Ji ............post #17

I'm really confused, now.

Don't be confused, try and understand ! Throw questions at me with whatever you don't understand and I'll try n furnish plausible explanations.

On page 1429 of SGGSJ [ਥਾਲ ਵਿਚਿ ਤਿੰਨਿ ਵਸਤੂ ਪਈਓ ਸਤੁ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਵੀਚਾਰੋ] Guru Ji is suggesting that we ponder, meditate, discuss, debate and think about Gurbani [bold]. Flowing from it, as it were, read verse ਜੈਸੀ ਮੈ ਆਵੈ ਖਸਮ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਤੈਸੜਾ ਕਰੀ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਵੇ ਲਾਲੋ page 722 SGGSJ [translation: hey lalo, as the "bani" of my beloved is passed through me [like electricity passing through a conductor] so I pass it on. In other words, directly from a higher source [God] comes bani not from the pronouncer [Nanak] .

Have a think and let me know whether you can get your head around that. This'd be the mystical part of Gurbani -

speak soon - dinner is ready !

Good night

 

[Ishna]

Ishna Ji ............post #17

Don't be confused, try and understand ! Throw questions at me with whatever you don't understand and I'll try n furnish plausible explanations.

On page 1429 of SGGSJ [ਥਾਲ ਵਿਚਿ ਤਿੰਨਿ ਵਸਤੂ ਪਈਓ ਸਤੁ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਵੀਚਾਰੋ] Guru Ji is suggesting that we ponder, meditate, discuss, debate and think about Gurbani [bold]. Flowing from it, as it were, read verse ਜੈਸੀ ਮੈ ਆਵੈ ਖਸਮ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਤੈਸੜਾ ਕਰੀ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਵੇ ਲਾਲੋ page 722 SGGSJ [translation: hey lalo, as the "bani" of my beloved is passed through me [like electricity passing through a conductor] so I pass it on. In other words, directly from a higher source [God] comes bani not from the pronouncer [Nanak] .

Have a think and let me know whether you can get your head around that. This'd be the mystical part of Gurbani -

speak soon - dinner is ready !

Good night

Hi Original Ji

Thanks for your offer to jump in and help. It's ok, Dalvinder ji has answered first question that his post wasn't talking about contradictions in Gurbani. That's all I was curious about.

Your Gurbani quotes are interesting, and I would look them up in the context of their angs later.