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Learn Punjabi Sat Sri Akal

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Charan Ji we use the "th" in "thaar", with the "t" i think it sounds a little too sharp but everyone has their own way to pronounce words. Yes i agree we can deffo learn more, i dont realy have a problem speaking it as i have from a very young age, i cannot read or write Punjabi that is where i need help. When i first starting learning playing the Tabla it was always written for me in english. I think i would have done a lot better had i had it written for me in punjabi if i learned it. I will have to start from the very basics, i think Narayanjot Ji mentioned a beginners course on here. I wish i learned it at school as i had every option too, for me now i think it is important to learn it.
 

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My dad's side family is from Rawalpindi and my mum's from Multan. I grew up listening to the Rawalpindi Punjabi dialect which has its own words and it is more kind of lyrical as compared to Punjabi spoken in India which sounds a bit rough and crude. It must be the regional thing.
 

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Tejwant ji and Ugsbay ji, do you guys really believe that Indian Punjabi sounds rough and crude? In my opinion, any language from any region can sound rough and crude. It depends on the individual speaking it. My point is that all languages are initially beautiful, it is the individual who either ruins them or makes them more beautiful.
 
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Two more workbooks arrived today. These are the baby alphabet and vocabulary books, but they are useful for the introductory parts of the series.

I found that we will be using kheera for cucumber. So I don't know what that means, except that it is probably going to adopt a consensus view of vocabulary.

I hope that works for everyone.

I am now to the point where I can see we will have 4 different threads going. More details later. The first 2 and possibly 3 going up Monday or Tuesday.
 

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Naryanjot ji, I am not sure if kheera belongs to one dialect and tar to another. But I found out that the 'Mahji' dialect is the most common one of the Punjabi language. It's what one would typically call 'original Punjabi'. ( http://www.unp.co.in/f16/punjabi-dialects-47671/ ).

According to wikipedia, they speak Doabi in the area where my family comes from in Punjab. But according to my mom, we don't speak Doabi.

I found some examples on wikipedia:



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I would have said almost all the words above as they are written on the right side (Standard Punjabi). The only word I would say in the Doabi dialect, is "houga" in stead of "hovega".

Another thing that fits into the Doabi dialect, is that I say "aa" (present tense) and "sigey" (past tense), instead of "han" (present tense) and "san" (past tense).

I am really not sure what dialect I speak... But, did you guys by the way notice that the standard Punjabi is more like Hindi than other types of Punjabi?
 
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Hey, everyone following the kheera/thaar discussion :D .. my mom told me that "thaar" and "kheera" are not the same vegetable. They belong to the same family, but "thaar" is apparently a special type of cucumber, not the normal long ones.
 

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Hey, everyone following the kheera/thaar discussion :D .. my mom told me that "thaar" and "kheera" are not the same vegetable. They belong to the same family, but "thaar" is apparently a special type of cucumber, not the normal long ones.

Your mom is right. Turh- thaar is called Mexican cucumber. Turh is much lighter in colour and has no skin that needs peeling unlike kheera. One can buy Turhs at Mexican grocery stores. And Kheera is the cucumber that we all know about.
 

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Those who love -choliyah- can also get it in the Mexican food markets. Choliyah is green garbanzo bean in a pod. And they are sold just in pods without the leaves and the soft twigs like in Punjab. I love them.
 

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Tejwant ji and Ugsbay ji, do you guys really believe that Indian Punjabi sounds rough and crude? In my opinion, any language from any region can sound rough and crude. It depends on the individual speaking it. My point is that all languages are initially beautiful, it is the individual who either ruins them or makes them more beautiful.

Charan ji,

Guru Fateh.

The smoothness of a language depends on the enunciation and the kind of words to express the same meaning. It is my personal opinion that the Rawalpindi dialect of Punjabi is lyrically poetic as compared to Punjabi spoken in Punjab, India.

When I used to live in Ferozepore,my hometown, we used to get Pakistani TV Channels and I am talking about the late 60's. The Punjabi in their soap operas sounded much sweeter to the ears than on this side of the border somehow.

Tejwant Singh
 

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SSA All !

Ok ... firstly, we say 'Kheera' - mmmm yummy

Also ... I actually say some words from 'standard punjabi' and some from 'doaba' dialect (which is apparantly what we speak) .. and yes charan ji, i also say 'aa' and 'sigey'

I'm really enjoying this discussion!!
 

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The smoothness of a language depends on the enunciation and the kind of words to express the same meaning.
Tejwant Singh


True.

It is my personal opinion that the Rawalpindi dialect of Punjabi is lyrically poetic as compared to Punjabi spoken in Punjab, India. Tejwant Singh

I don't know what Rawalpindi dialect sounds like, but if it is as you describe it, it's probably very nice. Maybe you can share a video where someone speaks Rawalpindi dialect?

But I still don't think it's fair to say that Indian Punjabi is rough and crude... Hmm..Let's agree to disagree :cool:
 
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Charan Ji its a Regional thing and you are right its the people speaking it that can make it what it is. I just find some Regions sound very Articulate than others but yes they are all nice. I like the Punjabi "Gurdass Mann" speaks & sings that i can call Beautiful. Thankyou for letting me know about the THAAR. The more i think of the word Thaar the more it sounds like a "Wire" now....:veryhappymunda:
 
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Deepsingh ji, Narayanjot ji explained very well by dividing it into two catagories. I will suggest one small and simple thing. Why don't you try typing your posts in this thread in roman punjabi. All of us can try to write back the same way. Theek hai na ji. Ho sakda hai ih desi treeka vi kamm aa javey.
roopsidhu
 

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SSA,
Deepsingh ji, Narayanjot ji explained very well by dividing it into two catagories. I will suggest one small and simple thing. Why don't you try typing your posts in this thread in roman punjabi. All of us can try to write back the same way. Theek hai na ji. Ho sakda hai ih desi treeka vi kamm aa javey.
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Please no writing in Punjabi. The official language of the forum is English. If you want it is fine to write in Punjabi with an English translation. Please forgive me.
 

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roopsidhu ji

Thanks for your kindness. We actually have a special forum just for Punjabi. That would be a good place to write messages back and forth in the Punjabi language. I forgot about that earlier. We started that section so Punjabi only speakers would feel more at home, and to have a place for Punjabi publications.

Here is the link to that forum.

Punjab, Punjabi, Punjabiyat
 

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Update for deepsingh ji, rani_vancouver ji, and charan ji, as well as interested forum members.

Here is progress to date. All of Japji Sahib is now in 50 discussion threads. It took a long time on Sunday to set up each lesson. I still have to insert the vocabulary words for the paurees, plus complete some other information.

When they are ready I will upload the first 10-12 threads. However, work and home have imposed some delays and the task turned out to take more time than I estimated.

The paurees will be on separate threads so that the discussion of paurees does not get out of order and mixed up. The format should work like online lessons, one pauree at a time, with vocabulary and room to discuss grammar. There will even be a progress test at the end of every 5 paurees, and 8 paurees plus the saloka for the final section.

I apologize for not having this ready by Tuesday as I thought earlier. Soon, very soon.
 

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Good news!

I have figured out how to cut an audio file and save it as smaller files. That means the entire mp3 file of Japji Sahib can now be subdivided into smaller files, each consisting of a single pauree.

Starting this evening, it will be possible to paste the smaller files into the individual lesson threads. The benefit is that you won't have to search the larger file to listen to the pauree you want to study.


It could be done - naturally I had to find the mental clear zone to concentrate on understanding how to do this. It worked.
 
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