Such people are called "patit." They can, however, take Amrit again and then all is forgiven.
Sikhism And Apostasy
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The point Sikhi does not have a death penalty for apostates and I believe that an apostate can re-embrace Sikhi if he or she shows genuine remorse
The point Sikhi does not have a death penalty for apostates and I believe that an apostate can re-embrace Sikhi if he or she shows genuine remorse
Yes, exactly. If the "apostate" was Amritdhari, it is necessary for her/him to take Amrit again.
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if they were a dwarf, would they be a petite patit?
Harryji maybe we should start a "Best really funny Sikh joke" thread??
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Harryji maybe we should start a "Best really funny Sikh joke" thread??
ok what about an apostate Sikh, quite short, who works with clay for a living, smoking a joint, quite fat,
which would make him or her a Portly Pothead Patit Petite Potter!
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The Sikh Rehat Maryada describes who Sikhs can't associate with, and what happens to an Amritdhari who "transgresses".
In reality, what the SRM says is gentler than what Gurbani says. A manmukh literally wastes their life - and the opportunity won't come again.
In reality, what the SRM says is gentler than what Gurbani says. A manmukh literally wastes their life - and the opportunity won't come again.
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I just noticed this article from the Huffington Post...
The inaccuracies around Sikhi in the article make me scoff at Mr Wilson's qualification...
'Goodbye Forever': How Religion Treats Apostates
01/05/2016 08:17 am ET | Updated Jan 05, 2016 Link
Aman Punia is 24. His name, Aman, means "peace." He was raised in a devout Sikh home in India.
Sikhism is a monotheistic religion with roots in Hinduism and Islam. It dates back to religious reformers in the late 1400s. Sikhs -- a Sanskrit word that means "disciples" or "learners" -- believe in equality among human beings and among religions. Their honored founder, Guru Nanak, is famous for proclaiming that "there is no Hindu, there is no Muslim."
Sikh men commit themselves to The Five Ks -- Kesh, Kangha, Kara, Kachera, and Kirpan. That first one, the Kesh, requires Sikh men to keep their hair unshorn, their beards untrimmed, and their heads covered by a dastaar (a turban), a crown of devotion to remind Sikh men that their lives are to be pious, consecrated to God, and courageous. The Kesh ritual is fundamental in the life of a Sikh man.
When Aman Punia, who is now an atheist, chose to cut his hair, trim his beard, and remove his turban, some among his family and friends felt let down, hurt, even betrayed. As he posted at the Facebook page of Atheist Republic:
Unfortunately, religion doesn't handle unbelievers well and it handles "apostasy" even less well. Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowship members who stop following the doctrines of the Governing Body; the Amish shun deserters; St. Paul urged the Corinthians to "turn over to Satan" a congregation member who was not observing the sexual mores of the early Christians; and, in the most extreme manifestation of religious totalitarianism, ISIS beheads members of other faiths and even fellow Muslims who don't see things their way.
Former Sikhs like Aman -- former Christians and former Muslims, too -- primarily wish to be left alone to believe or not believe, as reason and conscience dictate. Aman no longer believes the supernatural tenets of the religion of his youth. He no longer wears a turban. But he still loves his family and friends and India's larger Sikh community. He hopes for reconciliation. He hopes for peace. That's why he's called Aman.
Rodney Wilson holds master's degrees in history and in religion. He teaches both at a community college in Missouri.
01/05/2016 08:17 am ET | Updated Jan 05, 2016 Link
Aman Punia is 24. His name, Aman, means "peace." He was raised in a devout Sikh home in India.
Sikhism is a monotheistic religion with roots in Hinduism and Islam. It dates back to religious reformers in the late 1400s. Sikhs -- a Sanskrit word that means "disciples" or "learners" -- believe in equality among human beings and among religions. Their honored founder, Guru Nanak, is famous for proclaiming that "there is no Hindu, there is no Muslim."
Sikh men commit themselves to The Five Ks -- Kesh, Kangha, Kara, Kachera, and Kirpan. That first one, the Kesh, requires Sikh men to keep their hair unshorn, their beards untrimmed, and their heads covered by a dastaar (a turban), a crown of devotion to remind Sikh men that their lives are to be pious, consecrated to God, and courageous. The Kesh ritual is fundamental in the life of a Sikh man.
When Aman Punia, who is now an atheist, chose to cut his hair, trim his beard, and remove his turban, some among his family and friends felt let down, hurt, even betrayed. As he posted at the Facebook page of Atheist Republic:
Unfortunately, religion doesn't handle unbelievers well and it handles "apostasy" even less well. Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowship members who stop following the doctrines of the Governing Body; the Amish shun deserters; St. Paul urged the Corinthians to "turn over to Satan" a congregation member who was not observing the sexual mores of the early Christians; and, in the most extreme manifestation of religious totalitarianism, ISIS beheads members of other faiths and even fellow Muslims who don't see things their way.
Former Sikhs like Aman -- former Christians and former Muslims, too -- primarily wish to be left alone to believe or not believe, as reason and conscience dictate. Aman no longer believes the supernatural tenets of the religion of his youth. He no longer wears a turban. But he still loves his family and friends and India's larger Sikh community. He hopes for reconciliation. He hopes for peace. That's why he's called Aman.
Rodney Wilson holds master's degrees in history and in religion. He teaches both at a community college in Missouri.
The inaccuracies around Sikhi in the article make me scoff at Mr Wilson's qualification...
This is hilarious!
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ikr??!!!
I am reputed to have a fairly good sense of humor, but I see nothing funny here except possibly that it was written by some guy who is not Sikh and obviously has no grasp of what Sikhi is about.
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