Sunny Leone Should Be Excommunicated?

[Randip Singh]

Hi All,

I had an e-mail from a friend who edits on wikipedia, on an account I used to have. He has come up against this article:

Sunny Leone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is trying to add in that Sunny Leone is not a practising Sikh, but there are a couple of editor there who I guess specialise in pornography who wish to delete what he wishes to add probably because they wish to publicise she is a Sikh for Sales.

In any case, shouldn't people like this be excommunicated formaly from Sikhi rather than people like Kala Afghana? I mean, Ok, if she wants to be a pornstar, that is fine, but why is she claiming to be a Sikh? Has she taken Amrit? does she wear the 5k's? At best she is an apostate Sikh?

Any views?

 

[deepsingh87]

90 percent of sikhs have not taken amirt. sunny leon is not even a sikh name. she is probably confusing sikh with being punjabi.

 

[dalsingh]

Even though Leone tries to maintain a link to Sikh traditions, this is in theory rather than practice with her career.[5]

I wonder how she manages that?

 

[spnadmin]

funny though... I thought she was using Leone for Singhni ...but maybe was imagining.

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Leone..Female Lion..lioness ?? funny thought.. aad ji..you set me imagining too..wow

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

QUOTE:.<<Even though Leone tries to maintain a link to Sikh traditions, this is in theory rather than practice.[5] She has also said that she is unlikely to leave the adult film industry due to religion, saying that "girls will leave the industry claiming that they found God. Well, the fact is, God has always been with them the entire time...

TRUE..God is there all the time....perfectly correct according to Sikh Doctrine...as we dont have any satan etc....ALL is GOD.

 

[Randip Singh]

QUOTE:.<<Even though Leone tries to maintain a link to Sikh traditions, this is in theory rather than practice.[5] She has also said that she is unlikely to leave the adult film industry due to religion, saying that "girls will leave the industry claiming that they found God. Well, the fact is, God has always been with them the entire time...

TRUE..God is there all the time....perfectly correct according to Sikh Doctrine...as we dont have any satan etc....ALL is GOD.

True, but does not fixation with Kaam (in this instance), take us further from God?

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

True, but does not fixation with Kaam (in this instance), take us further from God?

Randip Ji..OF COURSE IT DOES..Fixation with Food, sugar..meat..milk..kheer..maya..flashy cars..ANYTHING..takes us FURTHER AWAY from Guru Ji... Spot ON.
so she is no different from Many of us...here the Jesus saying applies..Any who has not sinned cast the first stone...

 

[Randip Singh]

Randip Ji..OF COURSE IT DOES..Fixation with Food, sugar..meat..milk..kheer..maya..flashy cars..ANYTHING..takes us FURTHER AWAY from Guru Ji... Spot ON.
so she is no different from Many of us...here the Jesus saying applies..Any who has not sinned cast the first stone...

Indeed it does.

It just unnerves me that people for the sake of money, materialism, egotism are willing to show off their private parts and intimate details and still claim to be followers of the Sikh Guru.

The thought of people watching films like that and saying, look she is a Sikh! Sikh's who for the sake of their faith watched their children die, died themselves, starved to death.....but never shamed themselves.

Don't get me wrong if she was a man, I would be just as much outraged, but to see the word Sikh and Pornography together just makes me cringe.

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

She isn't a Sikh anyways. She does bajjar kurehits. She is automatically excommunicated. We don't need Sikhs like her. Has she made any movies based on charitropakhyan?

 

[spnadmin]

Khalsa Fauj ji

Help me out with the Punjabi terminology. What is bajjar kurehits? Vocabulary lesson for me.

 

[susan]

Poor soul. It makes me sad when women need to go to these extremes. She is missing out on soooooo much. Sometimes we are meant to struggle in unimaginable ways in order to surrender to him.

Japji Sahib Ang 5 Pauri 25
bhuqw krmu iliKAw nw jwie ] (5-11, jpu, mÚ 1)
bahutaa karam likhi-aa naa jaa-ay.
His Blessings are so abundant that there can be no written account of them.
vfw dwqw iqlu n qmwie ] (5-11, jpu, mÚ 1)
vadaa daataa til na tamaa-ay.
The Great Giver does not hold back anything.
kyqy mMgih joD Apwr ] (5-12, jpu, mÚ 1)
kaytay mangahi joDh apaar.
There are so many great, heroic warriors begging at the Door of the Infinite Lord.
kyiqAw gxq nhI vIcwru ] (5-12, jpu, mÚ 1)
kayti-aa ganat nahee veechaar.
So many contemplate and dwell upon Him, that they cannot be counted.
kyqy Kip qutih vykwr ] (5-12, jpu, mÚ 1)
kaytay khap tutahi vaykaar.
So many waste away to death engaged in corruption.
kyqy lY lY mukru pwih ] (5-12, jpu, mÚ 1)
kaytay lai lai mukar paahi.
So many take and take again, and then deny receiving.
kyqy mUrK KwhI Kwih ] (5-13, jpu, mÚ 1)
kaytay moorakh khaahee khaahi.
So many foolish consumers keep on consuming.
kyiqAw dUK BUK sd mwr ] (5-13, jpu, mÚ 1)
kayti-aa dookh bhookh sad maar.
So many endure distress, deprivation and constant abuse.
eyih iB dwiq qyrI dwqwr ] (5-13, jpu, mÚ 1)
ayhi bhe daat tayree daataar.
Even these are Your Gifts, O Great Giver!
bMid KlwsI BwxY hoie ] (5-13, jpu, mÚ 1)
band khalaasee bhaanai ho-ay.
Liberation from bondage comes only by Your Will.
horu AwiK n skY koie ] (5-14, jpu, mÚ 1)
hor aakh na sakai ko-ay.
No one else has any say in this.
jy ko Kwieku AwKix pwie ] (5-14, jpu, mÚ 1)
jay ko khaa-ik aakhan paa-ay.
If some fool should presume to say that he does,
Ehu jwxY jyqIAw muih Kwie ] (5-14, jpu, mÚ 1)
oh jaanai jaytee-aa muhi khaa-ay.
he shall learn, and feel the effects of his folly.
Awpy jwxY Awpy dyie ] (5-14, jpu, mÚ 1)
aapay jaanai aapay day-ay.
He Himself knows, He Himself gives.
AwKih is iB kyeI kyie ] (5-15, jpu, mÚ 1)
aakhahi se bhe kay-ee kay-ay.
Few, very few are those who acknowledge this.
ijs no bKsy isPiq swlwh ] (5-15, jpu, mÚ 1)
jis no bakhsay sifat saalaah.
One who is blessed to sing the Praises of the Lord,
nwnk pwiqswhI pwiqswhu ]25] (5-15, jpu, mÚ 1)
naanak paatisaahee paatisaahu. ||25||
O Nanak, is the king of kings. ||25||

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Aad Ji..BAJJAR KUREHIT is a major infarction....
one of FOUR...
1. Dishonouring the KESH
2. Consumption of TOBACCO and other dugs/intoxicants
3. Consumption of Halal Meat
4.SEX OUTSIDE MARRIAGE

ANY one or combination..makes one an APOSTATE..requiring appearance before the PANJ, confession, and the Panj will then dish out a Penance..like so many Japji sahib paaths/community service/ etc...and then READMINISTER Khandey dee Pahul once more to readmit the apostate. He she will not be publicly humiliated/made known.

Someties a High Profile Political person is meted out "penance" by the PANJ... to Instill Humility..by making him wear a sign around his neck and sitting in the shoes of the sangat outside the Gurdwara/or wash utensils/sweep the floors etc. Buta Singh Indian Minister was doen such because he defied the Panth and made efforts to re-erct the Demolished Akal takhat at Indira behest post 1984. THIS is IF the person appears before the PANJ..if he IGNORES THEM..then nothing happens..as with the Five Singhs in canada over the Langgar Edict, and Kala Afghana over his books.. One famous person to be floogged in public under this system was maharaja ranjit singh over keeping a prostitute in his palace.

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

With a person like Leone..no body can do anything..as she has not broken any civil laws..unless we go the way of the Ayohtollah Khomeni and Salamn Rashid and issue a Fatwa of Death. Hopefully she will coem to her senses...all by herself...:8-:8-

 

[spnadmin]

Gyani ji

You are a fund of information. :happy:

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

She sure does bajjar kurehit of having sex outside of marriage. She also most likely does other bajjar kurehits too such as drugs, dishonoring hair and prob. eats halal at times too. She basically does all four bajjar kurehits if that is true. A person who does even 1 bajjar kurehit can't be a Sikh. She prob. does all 4. She has chosen her way and that is her own issue. I wouldn't want her to become a Sikh either but that is my person opinion. He becoming Sikh would be like Nau sau choohaa khaa kay billi huj noo chalee. Gyani Ji will translate if you need translation of this.

 

[spnadmin]

Thanks - I get the message.

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

That is safe then.

 

[spnadmin]

Back to my earlier question. I see it now ....

BAJJAR + KU + REHIT

Sometimes I am kind of dumb.

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

You got the meaning right. That is good. It is nothing to do with dumb. Sometimes we just ignore some things. On wikipedia, her name states that it is originally karen malhotra. Malhotras aren't Sikh usually.

it says on wikiepedia:

Leone does her best to maintain a link to Sikh traditions, even if more in theory than in practice. But she’s unlikely to disavow her career path due to religion. "Girls will leave the industry claiming that they found God," she says. "Well, the fact is, God has always been with them the entire time.

God sure isn't with her unless her God is Kaal. Gurbani says the following about dharam and kaal.

iqQY kwlu n sMcrY joqI joiq smwie ] 6] {gurU gRMQ swihb jI, pMnw 55}
Thithai Kaal Na Sunchrai Joatee Joat Smaaye|| 6||
Kaal (spiritual death) doesn’t reach there; the light merges with The Light (God). 6.



hir ky nwm ibnw duKu pwvY ] Bgiq ibnw shsw nh cUkY guru iehu Bydu bqwvY ] 1] {gurU gRMQ swihb jI, pMnw 830}
Har Kay Naam Binaa Dukh Paavai || Bhagat Binaa Sahsaa Nah Chookai Gur Eh Bhayd Btaavai || 1||
Without the name of God, a person receives pain. Doubt is not removed without serving God; this secret has been revealed to me by God. 1.