Sunny Leone Should Be Excommunicated?

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

Nau sau chooha kha ke billi hajj nu challee..he he
You got it right Khalsa Fauj Jio...
After consuming 900 live rats..the "{censored} cat" decided to go to the Hajj (spiritual cleansing )..
she can go to hajj..but can the Hajj come to her ?? Will the hajj come to her ??

SIKHI is NOT such an "easy" way..that almost anybody can follow it..its as Sharp as the blade of the double dged Khanda and finer than a hair...cnat get any more difficult than that...anyone can claim to follow..be a sikh...BUT "BEING" A SIKH..thats where the lightning strikes..BOOM KABOOM.

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

Gyani Ji! You are exactly right. People think they will do all types of kurehits and then become Amritdhari when they get to 50 years in age. It doesn't really work out in the end. These people take Amrit when they are 50 but maaya still haunts them. Gurmat path is a practice just like sports. A person has to start playing a sport from a very young age to make it to the big leagues. Otherwise, the chances of making to the big leagues just goes down and down. A 50 year old person can't become a star at the game of baseball. Same way, it is very hard to change when the person reaches 40s or 50s. It is best to get on Gurmat path as fast as possible or it be like nau sau choohaa khaa kay billi hujj nu chalee.

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

IN Fact in SGGS Kabir Ji has already pointed this out as clearly as can be...IF YOU Cannot Live NAAM while Young and Strong..what makes you think you can do it when your eyes water, tongue shakes, feet tremble and your brains are addled ??
PRACTISE makes perfect..and Practise of NAAM LIVING has to begin as young as possible...

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

Gyani Ji, you are 100% right.

 

[Archived_Member5]

The perils of a misspent youth are brought to light when the delusion of hedonism becomes a stark and bitter poison. Reputation, reputation, reputation, it is sometimes a dilemma for the Sangat as to how to treat fallen angels wishing to return to the panth and fold. Some fall by choice and wilfulness whilst others are felled by malicious peers and adversaries, if fortunate fall on their swords if ill fated enough to be taken by the enemy camp can but detach from all such associations threatened by defamation is associated with such a one. The Waheguru is Pure Wisdom incorporating virtue and honour. God confers Honour upon whom he so wills.

Sikhism has many convert, former good time girls who take Amrit, don the mantle and lead pious lives. As Sikhism accords them the dignity of religiosity and the sanctum of the temple of faith, thus it is a moral duty if not obligation for the ‘’Sikh’’ to ensure their actions, words and misdeeds do not reflect badly upon their creed. Whilst it is commendable she exhibits her pride is her Sikh roots, this fragile relationship between, The Lord, Sangat and the individual requires equanimity.

For former fallen individuals to take the name of their faith they must take Amrit and become orthodox or distance themselves from public declarations of such association. If by association the individual gains credence and status by affiliation then they are honour bound to ensure the Sikh faith also gain from their allegiance or association. Only in this manner is the relationship of the individual, the faith and The Lord can be sanctified.

The Orthodox carry the great name and honour of this faith in their daily lives, it is an aberration upon the devoted to be forced to defend questionable behaviour and actions of those unwilling or unable to conform and adhere to the aforementioned terms of faith and fidelity designed to protect the individual on the path, the Sangat and The good name and standing of the faith.

{Bach Buuri Halaton se, Patta Patta Singhann da Vairi}

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. ...

 

[kilemba]

To each his own, If she believes in the Guru Granth Sahib , who are we to judge her if she is Sikh.

 

[dalsingh]

I am wondering if she is genuine at all in her wish to return to fold. Or if this is true at all? She would have trouble marrying into a Sikh family given her background - rightly or wrongly.

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

She is not going to return at all. Comments such as the one they posted on wikipedia are used to lure naive people into their industry. They are trying to portray that you can be a porn star and still be holy which is not true. Regarding believing in Guru Granth Sahib Ji and not following a word:

jqn krY mwnuK fhkwvY Ehu AMqrjwmI jwnY ] pwp kry kir mUkir pwvY ByK krY inrbwnY ] 1] {gurU gRMQ swihb jI, pMnw 680}
Jattan Krai Manukh Dahkaavai Oh Antarjaamee Jaanai || Paap Kray Kar Mookar Paavai Bhaykh Krai Nirbaanai || 1||
Some try to deceive others but God, knower of hearts, knows everything. These people indulge in sinful acts but then refuse to accept them; these people envision being in Nirvaanaa. 1.

kbIr swcw siqguru ikAw krY jau isKw mih cUk ] AMDy eyk n lwgeI ijau bWsu bjweIAY PUk ] 158] {gurU gRMQ swihb jI, pMnw 1382}
Kabeer Saachaa Satgur Keaa Krai Jao Sikhaa Mahe Chook || Undhay Aik Na Laagee Jeo Baans Bjaaeeaai Fook || 158||
Kabeer, what can the True Guru do if the Sikhs are to blame? Blind don’t understand anything and it is useless to preach to them; it is similar to blowing into a bamboo. 158.

 

[Randip Singh]

To each his own, If she believes in the Guru Granth Sahib , who are we to judge her if she is Sikh.

I think that's the point, we are not in a position to judge, but she shouldn't really judge the faith either. See the statement she made about other women finding God and leaving the industry.

Also we seem to excommunicate people from Sikhism like Inder Singh Ghagga and others, yet people like this are not looked at. I find the whole dea of excommunication ridiculous.

 

[Randip Singh]

You got the meaning right. That is good. It is nothing to do with dumb. Sometimes we just ignore some things. On wikipedia, her name states that it is originally karen malhotra. Malhotras aren't Sikh usually.

it says on wikiepedia:


God sure isn't with her unless her God is Kaal. Gurbani says the following about dharam and kaal.

iqQY kwlu n sMcrY joqI joiq smwie ] 6] {gurU gRMQ swihb jI, pMnw 55}
Thithai Kaal Na Sunchrai Joatee Joat Smaaye|| 6||
Kaal (spiritual death) doesn’t reach there; the light merges with The Light (God). 6.



hir ky nwm ibnw duKu pwvY ] Bgiq ibnw shsw nh cUkY guru iehu Bydu bqwvY ] 1] {gurU gRMQ swihb jI, pMnw 830}
Har Kay Naam Binaa Dukh Paavai || Bhagat Binaa Sahsaa Nah Chookai Gur Eh Bhayd Btaavai || 1||
Without the name of God, a person receives pain. Doubt is not removed without serving God; this secret has been revealed to me by God. 1.

On a side note does not Kaal just mean time? and Akaal is timeless?

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

I think that's the point, we are not in a position to judge, but she shouldn't really judge the faith either. See the statement she made about other women finding God and leaving the industry.

Also we seem to excommunicate people from Sikhism like Inder Singh Ghagga and others, yet people like this are not looked at. I find the whole dea of excommunication ridiculous.

Inder Singh Ghagga isn't excommunicated by anyone. When he reached Punjab, he later spoke at a stage hosted by Jathedar Joginder Singh Vedanti. It was even in newspaper during those days. Stage was a smagam held by Dal Khalsa and Vedanti was teh stage host. If he was excommnicated, why did Vedanti allow him to speak on stage he controlled?

Then later when sauda cult issue occcurred, Ghagga was at Damadama Sahib with everyone else and no Jatheder told him to leave Damdama Sahib. Why was he allowed to roam there?

Vedanti enver excommunicated him. This is just a lie made by anti-Ghagga people.

Kaal also means spiritual death because Gurbani says:

jhw loBu qh kwlu hY jhw iKmw qh Awip ] 155] {gurU gRMQ swihb jI, pMnw 1372}
Jahaa Lobh Tah Kaal Hai Jahaa Khimaa Tah Aap || 155||
Where there is greed, there is kaal (spiritual death). Where there is forgiveness, there is God. 155.

We know very well that if we translate kaal as time here, quote won't really be making sense.

 

[spnadmin]

Khalsa Fauj ji

Once again you have my attention. I myself was perhaps fooled that Mr. Ghagga was excommunicated. Is there any hard documentation regarding an "excommunication?" Thanks for any light you can shed.

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

There is no hukamnama stating that Inder Singh Ghagga is excommunicated from Panth. He was recently in Naagpur where he did parchar for several days.

Audio files from the program are linked below:

Singh Sabha International Canada - Audio Files

 

[Admin]

There is a good discussion on Inder Singh Ghagga, http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-...izations-launch-protest-against-ghagga-3.html

 

[Sinister]

She isn't a Sikh anyways. She does bajjar kurehits. She is automatically excommunicated. We don't need Sikhs like her. Has she made any movies based on charitropakhyan?

didn't jesus hang out with Mary Magadelene, who was a *****? (and wasn't she one of his most commited disciples) maybe we should try to make a concerted effort to reach out to people rather than just shove them aside? perhaps reach out to them?

ahh screw it! that's too much work!
it's much more fun and far easier to just villify people and excommunicate them. :happy:

ive noticed something, the right paths are usually the longest and toughest ones...bummer.

 

[spnadmin]

There is a good discussion on Inder Singh Ghagga, http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-...izations-launch-protest-against-ghagga-3.html

Yes thanks for this reminder. Important resource for the collection.

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

didn't jesus hang out with Mary Magadelene, who was a *****? (and wasn't she one of his most commited disciples) maybe we should try to make a concerted effort to reach out to people rather than just shove them aside? perhaps reach out to them?

ahh screw it! that's too much work!
it's much more fun and far easier to just villify people and excommunicate them. :happy:

ive noticed something, the right paths are usually the longest and toughest ones...bummer.

I don't know what the ***** part is. She is a porn star. No need to reach out to her. Normal. regular people are who should be reached. Not stars with their manmat. She isn't even a Sikh so all we are asking is for her to stop claiming to be Sikh. I don't read bible so I don't know about bible stories and I don't believe in Jesus. Like said before, what she does is bajjar kurehit which automatically excommunicates someone.

 

[GillAUS]

She isn't a Sikh anyways. She does bajjar kurehits. She is automatically excommunicated. We don't need Sikhs like her. Has she made any movies based on charitropakhyan?

Just had to throw that one in there didn't we? :55:

 

[Sinister]

I don't know what the ***** part is. She is a porn star. No need to reach out to her. Normal. regular people are who should be reached. Not stars with their manmat. She isn't even a Sikh so all we are asking is for her to stop claiming to be Sikh. I don't read bible so I don't know about bible stories and I don't believe in Jesus. Like said before, what she does is bajjar kurehit which automatically excommunicates someone.

yes of co{censored}, how silly of me, i forgot we are here on god's green earth to reach out to android drones and not human beings who make mistakes. Do bad decisions make us bad people? do bad decisions make us completely incapable of doing any good?

umm is she in the wrong, or are the people who buy and watch her videos more in the wrong? and should they be ex-communicated as well? well there goes 99% of the strapping young lads who do watch those videos.

***** = i meant to write 'prostitute'

define 'normal' because im certain our definitions vary. the misfits need the most help...normal people usually don't and i bet according to you more than 99% of the sangat has commited a bajjar kurehit or whatever clever control name we throw out there at some time or another. i know i have. should they all be excommunicated or recieve a childish flogging?

well maybe one day you will read the bible or maybe a religious text (just for kicks) and know what it is i talk about...however unlikely this may seem (it's not a bajjar kurehit is it?).

cheers

 

[The Khalsa Fauj]

I didn't say that people who do bajjar kurehits can't fix up. Anyone can fix up but porn star is an unlikely source to fix up. Becoming a porn star is a really big step to take in life. A normal person is someone like me or you or other people who work hard to earn their money. I will read bible when I get free time. Like I said before, I don't want to get into bible. Since you read bible, did Mary remain a sex worker even after becoming a disciple of Jesus or she fixed up? If she fixed up, then you can't say that a sex worker was a great follower of Jesus. Like I said before, I didn't say people can't fix up. All I said was that some are tougher to fix than others. It is best to focus on those who will listen easily than others. If we can get 10 people on the right path compared to 1, it is best. As for watching her videos, I would ban porn business if I had power but I don't have any say in what governments allow and what they don't.