Sunny Leone Should Be Excommunicated?

[Lee]

All actresses in the entertainment entertainment industry are varying degrees of porn and an abomination upon the sanctity of womankind.

Wisdom IS WaheGuru Is Truth Is Love Is Lord Supreme.

God Is An Undefined Unquantified Term. One Who Rules. This Is Kalyug. Kal Rules. Hence an absence of God.

An abssence of God? Where, how is that even possible?

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

AAD SACH, Jugaad SACH, Nanak hosee bhee SACH. God is never ever absent...it just cant happen.

 

[Josh martin]

PUnjabi star in pent house? cool
Shouldn't we be cheering up for her? she made it

 

[Gyani Jarnail Singh]

PUnjabi star in pent house? cool
Shouldn't we be cheering up for her? she made it

made it ?? where ?

 

[Randip Singh]

PUnjabi star in pent house? cool
Shouldn't we be cheering up for her? she made it

I don't think encouragement of Kaam or luring over women and seeing them as objects of sexual desire is anything to cheers about.

I would say she didn't make it, but destroyed it!

 

[Josh martin]

Made it to her goal? Hollywood/penthouse success rates are in low%. Maybe that was her dream.

Randip ji,

Maybe ur right

 

[CaramelChocolate]

Aad Ji..BAJJAR KUREHIT is a major infarction....
one of FOUR...
1. Dishonouring the KESH
2. Consumption of TOBACCO and other dugs/intoxicants
3. Consumption of Halal Meat
4.SEX OUTSIDE MARRIAGE

ANY one or combination..makes one an APOSTATE..requiring appearance before the PANJ, confession, and the Panj will then dish out a Penance..like so many Japji sahib paaths/community service/ etc...and then READMINISTER Khandey dee Pahul once more to readmit the apostate. He she will not be publicly humiliated/made known.

If the following were good enough for the Gurus to contribute to the Guru Granth Sahib, then why do Sikhs take such a strong stance against hair cutters? :

Kabir, Namdev, Ravidas, Sheikh Farid, Trilochan, Dhanna, Beni, Sheikh Bhikan, Jaidev, Surdas, Parmanand, Pipa, Ramanand

Sadhna: 1 hymn A butcher by profession, Bhagat Sadhana was born in Sind. His piety and meditation of God elevated him to saintly status. He was condemned by Brahmins and on a false charge was arrested and buried alive.
Sain: 1 hymn Bhagat Sain was a barber of the royal court of Raja Ram, king of Rewa. He was a follower of Bhagat Ramanand and Bhagat Kabir.

The Bhatts
Kal, Kalsahar, Tal, Jalap, Jal, Kirat, Sal, Bhal, Nal, Bhikha, Jalan, Das, Gayand, Sewak, Mathura, Bal, Harbans



Personally I would agree with a more basic definition of a Sikh - one who strives for God. I agree that in the greater scheme of things prostitution is WRONG and if one is searching for God, one would abandon this, in the same way that cutting the hair is about physical appearance and changing onself from the way we are made... but for goodness sake... who is to say what is in a person's heart? Why is their SUCH A BIG emphasis on APPEARANCE?

One can appear like the holiest person in the world, and still have a DIRTY HEART!

ਬੰਕੇ ਬਾਲ ਪਾਗ ਸਿਰਿ ਡੇਰੀ ॥
You make your hair beautiful, and wear a stylish turban on your head.
ਇਹੁ ਤਨੁ ਹੋਇਗੋ ਭਸਮ ਕੀ ਢੇਰੀ ॥੩॥
But in the end, this body shall be reduced to a pile of ashes. ||3|| - 659


ਮਨ ਰੇ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਵਾਸਾ ਹੋਇ ॥
O mind, dwell in the balanced state of your own inner being.
ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਾਲਾਹਿ ਤੂ ਫਿਰਿ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਣੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Praise the Lord's Name, and you shall no longer come and go in reincarnation. ||1||Pause|| - 1477

 

[spnadmin]

CaramelChocolate ji

Please post the entire shabad and not one or two tuks so that full meaning of the tuk can be appraised. This is a forum rule, and has been for several years. Thank you, spnadmin.

 

[Seeker9]

I think that's the point, we are not in a position to judge, but she shouldn't really judge the faith either. See the statement she made about other women finding God and leaving the industry.

Also we seem to excommunicate people from Sikhism like Inder Singh Ghagga and others, yet people like this are not looked at. I find the whole dea of excommunication ridiculous.

Well said

Who appointed anyone judge to excommunicate someone else?

But its ultimately pointless...what does it achieve?

Are we saying there are no sinners following Sikhism? Or is it the nature of the sin and the profile of the sinner that is stirring up so much interest?

Why on such a fine forum like this are we giving time to pornstars??

 

[Shanger]

Hi All,

I had an e-mail from a friend who edits on wikipedia, on an account I used to have. He has come up against this article:

Sunny Leone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is trying to add in that Sunny Leone is not a practising Sikh, but there are a couple of editor there who I guess specialise in pornography who wish to delete what he wishes to add probably because they wish to publicise she is a Sikh for Sales.

In any case, shouldn't people like this be excommunicated formaly from Sikhi rather than people like Kala Afghana? I mean, Ok, if she wants to be a pornstar, that is fine, but why is she claiming to be a Sikh? Has she taken Amrit? does she wear the 5k's? At best she is an apostate Sikh?

Any views?

If she considers herself to be sikh and believes in the teachings (as in believes tht there is a god and the gurus were true etc) can she not call herself a sikh?

im just saying that because, imagine a guy who cuts his hair, not taken amrit, but still goes gurdwara etc. many ppl will call tht guy a sikh right?

ur probably thinking leone cant be sikh cos she does porn which is breaking the rule about lust (1 of the 5 evils i think), but where do we draw the line? cos every human has imperfections and falls victim to them right?

e.g. many sikh guys will have a bmw/mercedes, when they could get around with a much cheaper car, and donate the rest of the money to charity. breaking the greed thing. (maybe thts a bad example but im just saying we all somehow break one of the 5 evils so who draws the line)

 

[spnadmin]

Shanger ji

You have quoted a very early comment by Randip Singh ji which in context was intended to get a conversation started in what is now a very stale thread. He was raising issues. Did you manage to notice one of his more recent comments.

Originally Posted by Randip Singh
I think that's the point, we are not in a position to judge, but she shouldn't really judge the faith either. See the statement she made about other women finding God and leaving the industry.

Also we seem to excommunicate people from Sikhism like Inder Singh Ghagga and others, yet people like this are not looked at. I find the whole dea of excommunication ridiculous.

Quite different.

I am also really grateful that forum members are "chilling" on your comments here and in other threads

 

[Shanger]

I only read the 1st page to be honest, but if that is Randip's view then I agree.

 

[Surjiwan Singh]

This woman is very lost and confused. I dont know much about her. All I know is that she works in the porn industry. To see a South Asian woman do such a thing disgusts me. Im a young teen living in California. And out here, it is our number one priority to protect our people. Especially our females. I feel like all I and many others have done to protect our community has been "thrown in the trash" when I see young, beautiful, punjabi kuriya degrade themselves in such ways. First of all, I would LOVE to know how her parent(s) feel about this. I honestly don't believe any caring, loving, parent would take pride in having a porn star son/daughter. Especially a South Asian parent. Second, I wonder if she even knows what a Sikh is. The fact that she is being advertised as a Sikh pornstar fills me with rage. You don't see people being advertised as "Christian Pornstar" or "Catholic Pornstar." No, but these *******s love to make a big deal out of a Hindu/Muslim/Sikh pornstar. That, in my opinion, is a slap in the face to our community. We should not tolerate such disrespect. Especially from these dirty *******s. And third, I just want to say that she is a discrace to our community and that she should be ashamed of herself. I wonder how her children (if she is to have any) would feel when they found out that "mommy was a pornstar." What would they go through? What if another kid at school knew about his "pornstar mommy?" Sikh children have gone through enough teasing and harrasment since 9/11. Believe me, i know. I was in kindergarden when 9/11 happened. The next 11 years of my life in America was a living hell. And another thing that angered me was when I read that the only reason she got into this industry was because she was persuaded by a man in California. These people NEED to stay away from our females. I have seen so much violence take place over protecting an Indian girl. I will admit, I have taken place in these violent acts. And, most of the time, led these acts. We would beat up any non South Asian who even thought about looking at our females the wrong way. This "punjabi pornstar" is only making it rougher for us youngsters in the Punjabi community. I truly dont believe that she is intact with her culture, heritage, and indian morals judging by her poor career decision. And Miss "Leone," if you ever read this, I would just like to say Thank You. Thank You for getting into the porn industry. Thank you for showing off your "goods" online for the whole world to see. Thank You for making youngsters like me feel like we have failed in trying to keep our beautiful females good and pure. (God, I hope you're getting the sarcasm). And if you are reading this... I just have ONE simple, plain question... "WHY?"

 

[Harry Haller]

This woman is very lost and confused. I dont know much about her.

If you do not know much about her, how can you say she is lost and confused?

All I know is that she works in the porn industry

so what?

To see a South Asian woman do such a thing disgusts me. Im a young teen living in California. And out here, it is our number one priority to protect our people. Especially our females. I feel like all I and many others have done to protect our community has been "thrown in the trash" when I see young, beautiful, punjabi kuriya degrade themselves in such ways

a bit like a sort of Sikh Taliban?

First of all, I would LOVE to know how her parent(s) feel about this. I honestly don't believe any caring, loving, parent would take pride in having a porn star son/daughter.

No, of course not, they would prefer their daughters to be miserably married to someone they hardly knew in order to satisfy Izzat. Perhaps you would be happier if they were actively trying to kill her maybe?

Second, I wonder if she even knows what a Sikh is. The fact that she is being advertised as a Sikh pornstar fills me with rage

Do you know what being a Sikh is? If you did then you would possibly be aware that rage is one of the many thieves that we are warned against.

We should not tolerate such disrespect

What should we do? maybe we should forget all the important issues in Sikhism, the compensation for 84, the leadership, the lack of direction, the corruption and focus on a young woman that is going about her legal business.

I just want to say that she is a discrace to our community and that she should be ashamed of herself

I can think of bigger disgraces myself

I wonder how her children (if she is to have any) would feel when they found out that "mommy was a pornstar." What would they go through? What if another kid at school knew about his "pornstar mommy?

She seems happy enough, what business is it of yours?

These people NEED to stay away from our females

You have ownership of all Sikh women?

I have seen so much violence take place over protecting an Indian girl. I will admit, I have taken place in these violent acts. And, most of the time, led these acts We would beat up any non South Asian who even thought about looking at our females the wrong way

Quite the righteous thug are you not my friend, how do you judge the look? Is this what being a Sikh is about?

I truly dont believe that she is intact with her culture, heritage, and indian morals judging by her poor career decision. And Miss "Leone," if you ever read this, I would just like to say Thank You. Thank You for getting into the porn industry.

Anymore than you are my young angry friend?

Thank You for making youngsters like me feel like we have failed in trying to keep our beautiful females good and pure. (God, I hope you're getting the sarcasm). And if you are reading this... I just have ONE simple, plain question... "WHY?"

Has it ever occured to you that our beautiful females do not need a thug like you to protect them? They can protect themselves I am sure, maybe you should address your own anger issues before worrying about others.

 

[Randip Singh]

This woman is very lost and confused. I dont know much about her. All I know is that she works in the porn industry. To see a South Asian woman do such a thing disgusts me. Im a young teen living in California. And out here, it is our number one priority to protect our people. Especially our females. I feel like all I and many others have done to protect our community has been "thrown in the trash" when I see young, beautiful, punjabi kuriya degrade themselves in such ways. First of all, I would LOVE to know how her parent(s) feel about this. I honestly don't believe any caring, loving, parent would take pride in having a porn star son/daughter. Especially a South Asian parent. Second, I wonder if she even knows what a Sikh is. The fact that she is being advertised as a Sikh pornstar fills me with rage. You don't see people being advertised as "Christian Pornstar" or "Catholic Pornstar." No, but these *******s love to make a big deal out of a Hindu/Muslim/Sikh pornstar. That, in my opinion, is a slap in the face to our community. We should not tolerate such disrespect. Especially from these dirty *******s. And third, I just want to say that she is a discrace to our community and that she should be ashamed of herself. I wonder how her children (if she is to have any) would feel when they found out that "mommy was a pornstar." What would they go through? What if another kid at school knew about his "pornstar mommy?" Sikh children have gone through enough teasing and harrasment since 9/11. Believe me, i know. I was in kindergarden when 9/11 happened. The next 11 years of my life in America was a living hell. And another thing that angered me was when I read that the only reason she got into this industry was because she was persuaded by a man in California. These people NEED to stay away from our females. I have seen so much violence take place over protecting an Indian girl. I will admit, I have taken place in these violent acts. And, most of the time, led these acts. We would beat up any non South Asian who even thought about looking at our females the wrong way. This "punjabi pornstar" is only making it rougher for us youngsters in the Punjabi community. I truly dont believe that she is intact with her culture, heritage, and indian morals judging by her poor career decision. And Miss "Leone," if you ever read this, I would just like to say Thank You. Thank You for getting into the porn industry. Thank you for showing off your "goods" online for the whole world to see. Thank You for making youngsters like me feel like we have failed in trying to keep our beautiful females good and pure. (God, I hope you're getting the sarcasm). And if you are reading this... I just have ONE simple, plain question... "WHY?"

Agree totally.

This woman totally disgusts me.

A blot on Sikhism.

 

[Luckysingh]

I don't know what the problem is.
We don't know her, we only know what industry she's in.
She's born to sikh parents, so does that make her a sikh?
It''s got nothing to do with religion, this is all about an industry that is no longer considered sleazy or taboo thanks to Mr Heffner.

My response is 'SO WHAT??'
If you find it sleazy then don't watch it. Porn is not forced down anybody's throat, it is there for you to access if you wish.
I couldn't care less who her family is and what pind they come from.
What if it was a male pornstar with the same success. You would all say well done phaaji, good for you.

I would excommunicate her for shaving her hair on her cherry and not for her job!!!!

These people NEED to stay away from our females. I have seen so much violence take place over protecting an Indian girl. I will admit, I have taken place in these violent acts. And, most of the time, led these acts. We would beat up any non South Asian who even thought about looking at our females the wrong way.

The above just sounds extreme islamic taliban to me.

 

[kds1980]

I would excommunicate her for shaving her hair on her cherry and not for her job!!!!

Why?

 

[Ishna]

You can get hair on your cherry now?

If she's a porn star chances are she don't have one of them no more. lol

Better chain her up to the oven, quick, and beat up all the white guys who think 'your females' are attractive.

 

[Ishna]

...stating that she would only do lesbian scenes.

Uhoh, better go beat up some white chicks too. (later in the artice it's said she changes to men)

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[Luckysingh]

The funny thing is that if she were due to make an appearance for something within the sikh community be it a dance, ball or sports event..etc.. Then I'm certain that NONE of the men from the sikh community would object to her appearance !!!