Was Rajneesh The Right Person To Translate Japji Sahib?

[manes_palam]

if you guys listen to osho explaining japji sahib
he mainly stressed on ''' nirvichar '
be a non thinker ...... dont swim ....... float .....(hukam wich rehna)
become zero (egoless), empty.........only when you are empty u;ll be filled with parmatma/our real self/amrit(it simple but hard to understand , once understood hard to implement, thats why we need sadhna at amrit vela when mind is not running around / when amrit is easily available to be connected to/and we can live in that essence all day in chardikala.

all the saints and prophets said the same

their problem ....language / type of people who are listening/ .

osho also explained that they also have another problem , even if satguru want to explain people to be 'silent ' they have to use words( as we are so addicted to it)......... that is the paradox

emptiness is our aim........ even if we say we r spiritual and undertand the concept and practice it .......that moment we say we do, or we did felt that amrit/emptiness for a sec ....next moment we are filled back with same false self of ours/ego..........saying im spiritual is the last highest stage of unspirituality one can attain (from which their is no escape)

their are hundreds of techniques of achieving that goal of emptiness ......through yog or yoga (but never say/feel ur yogi)........naam simran(never say ur sadhak)....do a namaz 5 or 10 times and submit ur self to inner amrit/allah.............(whatever works is the point............and it never work for fanatics as they understand the language part not the real reason behind ) (our one journey stops when we understand the meaning of certain words ..........then the words are of no use / only use is to remind us..........then the real journey starts to bring that knowledge into practice.

just to conclude theirs one story of nanak ji visiting this village of great fakirs and spiritual people.....whole village was fulll of them .....nanak was sitting under a tree with mardana ji resting ..then someone from the village brought a glass full of milk up to the brim and presented to nanak ji....mardana thought it's a gesture from the saints of the village.....but guru nanak ji plucked a flower and dropped it into the glass(not a single drop came out of glass) and sent it back .......mardana ji could not understand , then baba nanak ji explained they sent me a message that our village is full of saints their is no need of another one .....and i sent them a message that im light like a flower wont take much space .....
these saints of the village are heights of ego .....where baba nanak ji is empty/ will take no space ...
if from this story we understand what nanak ji telling us ....
we all in this world can stay together ......
but instead forget all world people of same religion cant stay under one roof......everyone filled with their own stories of prophets / languages / scriptures , without understanding a word of it / making their egos more complex .............and then we say we follow you nanak sahib.

and after all no one wants to shed their ego/personality as since birth we are made of our circumstances/likes/ dislikes / school we went to /friends/nationality /everthing
what kind of life it is when we have no likes/dislikes/no favorite food/no bondage to any maya ...........which is all burden on the inner amrit hidden inside our body.....remove the bondage to the burden .......empty ourself.....and feel the real treasure of that amrit/waheguru throughout......

this is what osho explained in short , which i could not understand from any other source ......

satnam

 

[swarn bains]

Baba Nanak was a philosopher came from the world above. His writing is so deep and complicated that any person cannot translate it easily. Rajneesh was a talkative man, that is what he said about japujee sahib. japujee by baba jee is nine pages and rajneesh translated it in 500 pages, added all tell tales. now let us see how many people can translate or explain in that man words as Nanak sahib did.any one who goes around and around to explain one word, it is not a good explanation. otherside of it is that the orator cannot understand it and goes in circles. my opinion rajneeshes explanation of japu jee is garbage.

 

[swarn bains]

Now about rajneesh. he came to usa. bought a village in oragon state. Made it into an open brothal. people had performed on the roads streets all in the open. then the govt caught up to him. He was charged and gave him an option. either fight your case or go back to India without any charge. he accepted the later and went back to India. let me explore further. He was {censored} and died in four years. let us assume he was punished and put in jail in the u.s. if he was sitting in jail in u.s. they would have bypassed his heart and saved him even being a prisoner. who is ahead. is he or me. so put your answer to this and rebut it.

 

[seerat]

Please listen to Sant Maskeen Ji's vyakhya of Japji Sahib. you won't feel the need to listen to anyone else.

 

[seerat]

I think you must all listen to Sant Maskeen Ji's vyakhaya of Japji Sahib. you won't feel the need to go anywhere else.
Infact, in one of the videos, Sant Ji told that Osho used to come and understand the meaning of Japji Sahib from him.
So, why wander here and there, looking for a clear explanation when we already have Sant Ji's version available.
But, it is in Punjabi. So, for those who don't understand Punjabi, can ask any punjabi friend to translate it for you. But now, that punjabi has become quite a popular language, so, I think you guys can listen it yourselves. Listen to a single video twice or thrice, if you did not understand it for the first time.

People might not be familiar with Sant Maskeen Ji because he has not spoken in English.

 

[seerat]

I haven't read or heard anybody explaining Japji Sahib with such lucidity.
I mean who was able to explain Infinity-Infinities!!

Please listen to Sant Maskeen Ji's vyakhya of Japji Sahib. you won't feel the need to listen to anyone else. he has explained Japji Sahib ji with immense depth and lucidity.
Infact, if i am not wrong, Osho himself used to come to sant ji for understanding Japji Sahib. ( SOURCE: one of the Sant Ji's videos. )

 

[swarn bains]

no he was not. his explanation runs 500 pages\ where as japujee sahib is\ 9 pages\. it is\ all talk talk talk

 

[swarn bains]

Osho came to U S A and established a shrine in oragon. So and So it was a brothel. people used to have sex in the open on the roads. then the us governemt found out and arrested him. he was given two conditions. first one was to leave usa and they will not charge him but never come back. The second one was to stay in prison and fight his case. he accepted the first one and went to india. he died after 4 years because he was plugged. if he had accepted to stay in usa and fight his case from the jail then usa had the obligation to treat him and he would not have died so quick. whether he was going to be punished or not. that question did not arrive. I wrote the true story
now talking about the trnslation or trnslitration or explanation of Japujee sahib. Japujee is on 9 pages. oshos explanation is in 500 pages. it is done by the people who do not understand it. they go in circles and keep circling till they reach 500 pages some people are hypnotized by it. It may be alright if he he had 100 times divine knowledge that Baba Nanak. otherwise he is lieing and going in clrcles. only.