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What Is Dasam Duaar?

Astroboy

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ਵੇਦੁ ਪੜਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਨਹੀ ਆਇਆ
वेदु पड़हि हरि रसु नही आइआ ॥
vėḏ paṛeh har ras nahī ā­i­ā.
The Pandits read the Vedas, but they do not obtain the Lord's essence.
ਵਾਦੁ ਵਖਾਣਹਿ ਮੋਹੇ ਮਾਇਆ
वादु वखाणहि मोहे माइआ ॥
vāḏ vakāṇeh mohė mā­i­ā.
Intoxicated with Maya, they argue and debate.
ਅਗਿਆਨਮਤੀ ਸਦਾ ਅੰਧਿਆਰਾ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬੂਝਿ ਹਰਿ ਗਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੨॥
अगिआनमती सदा अंधिआरा गुरमुखि बूझि हरि गावणिआ ॥२॥
Agi­ānmaṯī saḏā anḏẖi­ārā gurmukẖ būjẖ har gāvaṇi­ā. ||2||
The foolish intellectuals are forever in spiritual darkness. The Gurmukhs understand, and sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord. ||2||
 

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Sadh Sangat Ji,

So we now know what we need to do daily from Sunday to Saturday.
All this is clearly spelt out in Post # 18
 

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thanks namjap ji,
However one of the Other Gursikh requested me to stop discussion about the spirtual aspects. i guess he`s also correct in his sense. Its not explaining but getting expereince about it. But yeah motivation always comes from gurbani.

thanks for bringin up tuks from gurbani
aprreciate that
stupidjassi

Let's bring together the various tuks on Dasam Dwar (Tenth Door) and then decide on it. Stupidjassi is doing a good thing in bringing this very important matter up again.

Here's one tuk:-

ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰੈ ਲਾਇ ਭਾਵਨੀ ਇਕਨਾ ਦਸਵਾ ਦੁਆਰੁ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ ॥
गुरदुआरै लाइ भावनी इकना दसवा दुआरु दिखाइआ ॥
Gurḏu*ārai lā*ė bẖāvnī iknā ḏasvā ḏu*ār ḏikẖā*i*ā.
Through the Gurdwara, the Guru's Gate, some are blessed with loving faith, and the Tenth Door is revealed to them.
Guru Amar Das - [SIZE=-1]view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok[/SIZE]
 
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stupidjassi ji

Just because another Gursikh tells you to stop discussing spirituality aspects of a topic DOES NOT MEAN that you have to go along with the suggestion. We are all independent thinkers on SPN.

SPN is about dialog and learning from different points of view. 100 percent agreement is not one of the forum rules.

No one died and left Gursikh 'x" in charge of the buffalo herd, as far as I can tell. And since we are not a herd, please continue with your excellent insights and observations. One reason why this thread is so interesting is that all the participants -- NamJap, Sikh80 ji, you, Vijaydeep ji, Amarpal ji, and i don't know who else, have been looking at the spiritual dimension and not going off on a game of Name that Bani.

I for one tend to look forward to reading what you have to say.
 

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All jio
It is very personal experience, almost impossible to express it in words as per their limitations. It was hinted in Sikh80 ji's post too. The experience of all senses we do is very much clear, to have experience of "dasma dwar" cannot be experienced with these senses, obviously it comes with reaching to that state of mind in love with HIM. Like experience of walking on the Mar will be experienced by those who could do that ever.
 

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hi aad0002
I agree with you also :)
but the reason i realise that its nothing much to be in discussion. Its about getting the expereicnce. I also put importance to expereince. Discussion is good for motivation but experience is our goal right. Now we are at stage when we need more experience and less discussion.

But yeah i`ll continue participating in forums. and quest for the truth in Gurbani

thanks much for your reply anywyas
stupidjassi
stupidjassi ji

Just because another Gursikh tells you to stop discussing spirituality aspects of a topic DOES NOT MEAN that you have to go along with the suggestion. We are all independent thinkers on SPN.

SPN is about dialog and learning from different points of view. 100 percent agreement is not one of the forum rules.

No one died and left Gursikh 'x" in charge of the buffalo herd, as far as I can tell. And since we are not a herd, please continue with your excellent insights and observations. One reason why this thread is so interesting is that all the participants -- NamJap, Sikh80 ji, you, Vijaydeep ji, Amarpal ji, and i don't know who else, have been looking at the spiritual dimension and not going off on a game of Name that Bani.

I for one tend to look forward to reading what you have to say.
 

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stupidjassi ji

Thanks for the lovely response. Sometimes we do talk too much. But no one should try to stop you from discussing things.


But now, here is one of the things that baffles me about threads like this one. If something is too personal to discuss, then why say anything at all. There are 2 things I never talk about here. One is my sadhana and the other is Khalistan. These are extremely deep issues so I just don't post anything about either topic.

If it is personal -- then I am silent from the start.
 

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Quote aad0002
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But now, here is one of the things that baffles me about threads like this one. If something is too personal to discuss, then why say anything at all. There are 2 things I never talk about here. One is my sadhana and the other is Khalistan. These are extremely deep issues so I just don't post anything about either topic.

If it is personal -- then I am silent from the start.

aad0002 ji

May be I didn't express myself as clearly as I understand it; so you do not need to avoid any discussion you feel to discuss. There are Guru Vaak in which their personal experience is expressed and you will note that while writing about that, words sound cripple ; however, it doesn't mean we should not talk about that or discuss about that. After reading all posts in this context, I found out, all are just hinting about the meaning of "dasm Duaar" but are not successful in explaining it in complete. Obviously such kind of spiritual experience can be expressed only by going through it. Like all of you, I also feel helpless to word that in correct way due to being very very inexperienced in this feild. Right answer can be found only through experience and looking at my state of mind, I am million miles away.
Please continue sharing it.
Please continue the thread. Lot of shabadas posted by namjap ji and Sikh 80 are so wonderful to understand it or to go close to understand it. If it(thread) was not, how would I be able to enjoy these Guru Shabadas?
 

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pk 70 ji

I apologize if you thought I was referring to you. Not in the slightest. I still don't know who the Gursikh X was and probably should not know. You are speaking the truth and I agree with all that you say.

There have been those however who will go on and on about why we should not discuss this or that on principle. That is the thing that baffles me.
 

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After reading all posts in this context, I found out, all are just hinting about the meaning of "dasm Duaar" but are not successful in explaining it in complete. Obviously such kind of spiritual experience can be expressed only by going through it. Like all of you, I also feel helpless to word that in correct way due to being very very inexperienced in this feild. Right answer can be found only through experience and looking at my state of mind, I am million miles away.
Please continue sharing it.
Please continue the thread. Lot of shabadas posted by namjap ji and Sikh 80 are so wonderful to understand it or to go close to understand it. If it(thread) was not, how would I be able to enjoy these Guru Shabadas?

ਸਿਵ ਕੀ ਪੁਰੀ ਬਸੈ ਬੁਧਿ ਸਾਰੁ
सिव की पुरी बसै बुधि सारु ॥
Siv kī purī basai buḏẖ sār.
In the City of God, sublime understanding prevails.
 
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"What is Dasam Duaar?"

Part 1

Literally it means tenth gate. But alone this means nothing. We know there are nine gates of the body and these relate to physical organs of perception: 2 eyes, 2 ears, 2 nostrils, 1 mouth, 1 urethra and 1 ****. Metaphysical physiology says the "praan" the lifeforce energy escapes the body through the nine openings to perceive the sansaaric world and immerse the consciousness in duality. So without understanding the initial nine gates, just to figure out the tenth doesn't make sense. After all what is an opening, a gate?

But looking at the nine openings we also know there is a tenth. And the tenth opening in a baby is called the anterior fontanel. As the baby develops this soft spot of the head closes and the skull bones knit tightly together. So in metaphysical physiology, a tenth hole is there from birth, but it closes. The key is to have a spiritual practice which withdraws the praan from the openings and closes those nine gates. It has to be achieved so you can redirect the flow of lifeforce energy to move upwards and unlock the tenth gate.

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Baby with clear opening at location of anterior fontanel

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Joora is tied over this area. The spiritual practice is to jap Naam and put the vibration of Naam into the hairs forming a seal/mudra over the dasam duar to protect the mind from sansaaric influences and facillitate Simran (ਸਿਮਰਨ). "The word is derived from Sanskrit word Smaran meaning Remembrance." This is a yogic practice. Sikhs are not the only people to tie top knot over dasam duar.


ਬਟੂਆ ਏਕੁ ਬਹਤਰਿ ਆਧਾਰੀ ਏਕੋ ਜਿਸਹਿ ਦੁਆਰਾ ॥
battooaa eaek behathar aadhhaaree eaeko jisehi dhuaaraa ||
The body is a bag with seventy-two chambers, and one opening, the Tenth Gate.

ਨਵੈ ਖੰਡ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮੀ ਮਾਗੈ ਸੋ ਜੋਗੀ ਜਗਿ ਸਾਰਾ ॥੧॥
navai khandd kee prithhamee maagai so jogee jag saaraa ||1||
He alone is a real Yogi on this earth, who asks for the primal world of the nine regions. ||1||

ਐਸਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਨਉ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਵੈ ॥
aisaa jogee no nidhh paavai ||
Such a Yogi obtains the nine treasures.

ਤਲ ਕਾ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਲੇ ਗਗਨਿ ਚਰਾਵੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
thal kaa breham lae gagan charaavai ||1|| rehaao ||
He lifts his soul up from below, to the skies of the Tenth Gate. ||1||Pause||
~SGGS Ji p. 477


Now I will explain what this means. The nine gates correspond to 6 chakras. A chakra is an energy wheel which means it spins, it has activity, it has velocity. The chakrs are centers of motion which feed electro-magnetic current to all the major organ systems of the body, enlivening it. And importantly, the praan is breath of life which is in motion with the electrical current. So we are dealing with a metaphysical science of electrophysiology and how it relates to the spine, brain and breath. Every organ of your body requires oxygen to be fed to it which is achieved by means of blood supply, arteries, veins which are tube like vessels that hold your lifeblood. In the same way ancient Indian mystics have taught for thousands of years that the human body has an electrical system which has tube like vessels which hold electric current, and these are called nadis.

The primary nadis oscillate curent along the spine from pubbicoccygeal muscle (root chakra) to the closed opening on the head (dasam duar). They are called Ire, is active in the left nostril, has negative current, is considered female, cooling, associated with the moon (Chandra). Pingala nadi is active in the right nostril, has positive current, is associated with male energy, is heating, and associated with the sun (Surya). Both nadis begin at the Muladhara first chakra (root). Traditionally they are said to meet at the confluence of the three rivers, Yukta Triveni, where the praan meets at the juncture of the Ire, Pingala and Shushmana.

This spot is located at the Agnya third eye sixth chakra in the forehead approximating the location in the brain of the Pineal and Pituitary glands. These are the psychic centers basically. When the lifeforce energy is directed above the 6 chakrs to this point it stimulates a fundamental change in human neurophysiology and activates latent pathways of the brain itself. This physical alteration aloneshows how the brain can create secretions which are potent psychoactive compounds. So what is being discussed is no mere fantasy or superstition, but in fact a very highly developed science of human consciousness.


ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗੁਲਾ ਅਉਰ ਸੁਖਮਨਾ ਤੀਨਿ ਬਸਹਿ ਇਕ ਠਾਈ ॥
eirraa pingulaa aour sukhamanaa theen basehi eik thaaee ||
The energy channels of the Ida, Pingala and Shushmanaa: these three dwell in one place.

ਬੇਣੀ ਸੰਗਮੁ ਤਹ ਪਿਰਾਗੁ ਮਨੁ ਮਜਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਤਿਥਾਈ ॥੧॥
baenee sangam theh piraag man majan karae thithhaaee ||1||
This is the true place of confluence of the three sacred rivers: this is where my mind takes its cleansing bath. ||1||
~SGGS Ji p. 974


ਖਟੁ ਮਟੁ ਦੇਹੀ ਮਨੁ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ॥
khatt matt dhaehee man bairaagee ||
Above the six chakras of the body dwells the detached mind.

ਸੁਰਤਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਧੁਨਿ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਜਾਗੀ ॥
surath sabadh dhhun anthar jaagee ||
Awareness of the vibration of the Word of the Shabad has been awakened deep within.
~SGGS Ji p. 903​


ਉਲਟੀ ਲੇ ਸਕਤਿ ਸਹਾਰੰ ॥
oulattee lae sakath sehaaran ||
Turning away from materialism, I have found intuitive support.

ਪੈਸੀਲੇ ਗਗਨ ਮਝਾਰੰ ॥
paiseelae gagan majhaaran ||
I have entered into the sky of the mind, and opened the Tenth Gate.

ਬੇਧੀਅਲੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਭੁਅੰਗਾ ॥
baedhheealae chakr bhuangaa ||
The chakras of the coiled Kundalini energy have been opened,

ਭੇਟੀਅਲੇ ਰਾਇ ਨਿਸੰਗਾ ॥੨॥
bhaetteealae raae nisangaa ||2||
and I have met my Sovereign Lord King without fear. ||2||

ਚੂਕੀਅਲੇ ਮੋਹ ਮਇਆਸਾ ॥
chookeealae moh maeiaasaa ||
My attachment to Maya has been eradicated;

ਸਸਿ ਕੀਨੋ ਸੂਰ ਗਿਰਾਸਾ ॥
sas keeno soor giraasaa ||
the moon energy has devoured the sun energy.

ਜਬ ਕੁੰਭਕੁ ਭਰਿਪੁਰਿ ਲੀਣਾ ॥
jab kunbhak bharipur leenaa ||
When I was focused and merged into the all-pervading Lord,

ਤਹ ਬਾਜੇ ਅਨਹਦ ਬੀਣਾ ॥੩॥
theh baajae anehadh beenaa ||3||
then the unstruck sound current began to vibrate. ||3||
~SGGS Ji p. 972


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Human vascular system which has central channel (aorta) that connects to the heart and lungs and branches off to peripheral arteries which pump oxygenated blood from lungs and heart through veins to feed distal organs and extremities. This is how oxygen (breath/praan) reaches all the organs of your body. In similar fashion, metaphysical physiology postulates you have a subtle body and basically a bloodstream of energetic breath following similar pathways. Everything converges at the central channel which is along the spinal column. But instead of the heart being the center, the subtle channels feed electro-magnetic energy and lifeforce breath to the brain. At least, thats the intended function.


"All energy has a vibration and emits a frequency. The most potent form of energy by the way, is thought. It penetrates all space and all time. Every thought has a frequency. We can measure a thought. What most people don't understand is a thought has a biochemical and biological property." ~John Assaraf


It's important to important to know we are talking about physiology otherwise simply saying "tenth gate" doesn't mean anything. If you look at the parallel to body physiology, you see the intricacy of the vasculature, the nervous system, the spinal cord and how the body and brain communicate. Could we assume the underlying electrophysiology would be less intricate? And supposing (from our skeptical Western perspectives), that multidimensionality is reality and there are universes within universes, and the physical body is only an extension into the perceivable realm (via human instrumentation) of time and space.

That hyperdimensional reality which is quantum and non-local is also enfolded within our material existence. We would have to conclude our science and medicine actually know very little about the multidimensional nature of human physiology or how it extends into the realm of the subtle. There is more than meets the eye of what is known. And this is what is being talked about with the dasam duar. It is a subtle physiology that explains how the human body-mind-soul complex can be liberated from the confines of 4th dimensional time and space (sansaara) and experience the interconnectedness that underlies all creation.

So we must of necessity talk a little bit about what is known in theoretical physics. Because the modern science is now proving with mathematical models the ancient metaphysical truths of the Vedas and of Gurbani. I also know some aspects of Kateb and Torah and Q'uran also contain some of this ancient wisdom. So we aren't by any stretch of imagination discussing mythology. Some of these things are profoundly deep truths.


ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਮਨੁ ਤਨੁ ਜਿਨਹਿ ਦੀਆ ਰਿਦੇ ਕਾ ਆਧਾਰੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
praan man than jinehi dheeaa ridhae kaa aadhhaar ||1|| rehaao ||
He gave you the praanaa, the breath of life, and your mind and body. He is the Support of the heart. ||1||Pause||
~SGGS Ji p. 51


But if you understand the life current which is in the human body and "enlivens it" as opposed to being in a state of death, without life current, and how it relates to breath to stimulate higher functions of thought, personality, memory, understanding and consciousness, it begins to make more sense. This is the very essence of the term "pranayama" (Lifeforce breath). In this way people can understand better what Gurbani is meaning when it uses the terms praan and sass giras simran.



ਜਪਿ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜੀਉ ਭਾਗ ਵਡੇਰੇ ਜੀਉ ॥
jap guramukh naam jeeo bhaag vaddaerae jeeo ||
As Gurmukh, chant the Naam, the Name of the Lord, O very fortunate ones.

ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜੀਉ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰੇ ਜੀਉ ॥
har har naam jeeo praan har maerae jeeo ||
The Name of the Lord, Har, Har, is my soul and my breath of life.
~SGGS Ji p. 175



ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਰਹਿ ਨ ਸਕੈ ਮਨੁ ਮੇਰਾ ॥
har bin rehi n sakai man maeraa ||
Without the Lord, my mind cannot survive.

ਮੇਰੇ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਮੇਲੇ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਨ ਭਵਜਲਿ ਫੇਰਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
maerae preetham praan har prabh gur maelae bahur n bhavajal faeraa ||1|| rehaao ||
If the Guru unites me with my Beloved Lord God, my breath of life, then I shall not have to face the wheel of reincarnation again in the terrifying world-ocean. ||1||Pause||

ਮੇਰੈ ਹੀਅਰੈ ਲੋਚ ਲਗੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੇਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਨੈਨਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਹੇਰਾ ॥
maerai heearai loch lagee prabh kaeree har nainahu har prabh haeraa ||
My heart is gripped by a yearning for my Lord God, and with my eyes, I behold my Lord God.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਦਇਆਲਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ ਹਰਿ ਪਾਧਰੁ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੇਰਾ ॥੧॥
sathigur dhaeiaal har naam dhrirraaeiaa har paadhhar har prabh kaeraa ||1||
The merciful True Guru has implanted the Name of the Lord within me; this is the Path leading to my Lord God. ||1||
~SGGS Ji p. 711



ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਅਪੁਨਾ ਸਾਸਿ ਸਾਸਿ ਸਮਾਰਉ ॥
prabh apunaa saas saas samaaro ||
I dwell on my God with each and every breath.
~SSGS Ji p. 104



ਸਾਸਿ ਸਾਸਿ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਮਾਰੈ ॥੩॥
saas saas jan naam samaarai ||3||
With each and every breath, they remember the Naam. ||3||
~SSGS Ji p. 189



ਜਿਨਾ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਨ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਾਂ ਮਨਿ ਮੰਤੁ ॥
jinaa saas giraas n visarai har naamaan man manth ||
Those who do not forget the Lord with each breath and morsel of food whose minds are filled with the Mantra of the Lord's Name.
~SGGS Ji p. 319


You can find allusions to this pranayam of chanting the Name of God in Gurbani. It is subtle because the technique is gupt and only given by Panj Piare who have Naam Abhiyaas. Since the earliest reputable copy of Prem Sumarag dates to 1706, we can infer this is no Hindu development which crept into the Panth following destruction of Empire of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, but existed from the time of Tenth Master at least. Since the earliest known reference to pranyam Naam Abhiyaas is written here and remains part of the recorded history of Gurmat practices.

There is the physical body and and a subtle energy body and a causal body in traditional Vedantic philosophy. Five koshas, or sheaths belong to 3 layers of the body.
These three correspond to body, mind and soul layers. All three are said to be vehicles through which our consciousness manifests. In this respect, consciousness is something beyond mere brain and so persists after the death of the brain. The brain is a physical organ which utilizes instrumentation of electricity to express thought. When we "think" a thought, an electric current travels along the action potential of neural dendrites. And in this fashion, subtle vibration of electrical impulses exist on a physical level of human brain physiology.

"Koshas: We humans are like a lamp that has five lampshades over our light. Each of the lampshades is a different color and density. As the light shines through the lampshades, it is progressively changed in color and nature. It is a bitter-sweet coloring. On the one hand, the shades provide the individualized beauty of each lamp. Yet, the lampshades also obscure the pure light."

Physical - Annamaya kosha
Energy - Pranamaya kosha
Mental - Manamaya kosha
Wisdom - Vijnanamaya kosha
Bliss - Anandamaya kosha
Self - Atman

Koshas or Sheaths of Yoga Vedanta

Perhaps we could envision this as a form of hyperdimensionality existing beyond the perceivable limits of time and space. This tradition is literally saying that human physiology extends into a dimensional level modern science has not yet apprehended. For example take a look at the holographic universe theory. The interesting thing about holography is that the film which the holographic picture is made on contains swirling impressions called "interference patterns."

The three-dimensional image is imprinted in such a way that it's created by interference patterns that block out the light. It's a clue to the nature of materiality. We exist, insofar as we obstruct the light. And so in a sense the physical world can be said to be a kind of shadow of something deeper and more real. this world is not the true reality, it is an extention of it. And the reality is a multiverse of potentialities of underlying dimensions. A holographic universe is patterned after higher dimensional reality, like a pattern of resonance. Energy after all, is pure vibration. Nothing can be destroyed in this dimension which doesn't have a more perfect form of which this one was patterned after. And whats really interesting is that Light is Sound at higher dimensional reality. So the Shabad-word of Guru really is His Jyot manifest in a way the lower dimension can comprehend.


A hologram is a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser. To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the reflected light of the first and the resulting interference pattern(the area where the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film.

When the film is developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But as soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a three-dimensional image of the original object appears. The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and then illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the entire image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact version of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram contains all the information possessed by the whole.

The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an entirely new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history, Western science has laboured under the bias that the best way to understand a physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the universe may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart some thing constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is made, we will only get smaller wholes. This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and forth, but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.

...We view objects such as subatomic particles as separate from one another because we are seeing only a portion of their reality. Such particles are not separate "parts", but facets of a deeper and more underlying unity that is ultimately as holographic and indivisible as the previously mentioned rose. And since everything in physical reality is comprised of these "eidolons", the universe is itself a projection, a hologram. In addition to its phantom like nature, such a universe would possess other rather startling features. If the apparent separateness of subatomic particles is illusory, it means that at a deeper level of reality all things in the universe are infinitely interconnected. ~Michael Talbot
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Holographic_Universe/id/5864]Spirituality and Science: The Holographic Universe

"Light is an ancient and pervasive spiritual metaphor."

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Neurons of the brain transmit thought in the form of electrical impulses which vibrate along the neural pathways. Lightning is similarly configured in shape to brain neurons. In Kirlian photography interesting anomolous effects are shown which correspond to the subtle energetic etheric body, as demonstrated in this photograph of a leaf and fingertip.

What I mean to show is there exists in our bodies a relational current-vibration between living things. This is important to understand if you are to grasp or acknowledge metaphysical physiology such as energy chakrs. It is even possible to visualize through Kirlian photography areas of energy blockage or impending and current disease.

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The traditional metaphysics of the human chakra system begins from the root chakra at the base of the pubicoccigeal muscle. This is the sensual root first chakra level which is closest to the gross vibrations of the material plane. And these chakrs extend all the way along the spine involving the navel, the diaphragm, the chest, the throat, the forehead and the top of the head. The nabhi or navel is the area where Gurmukhs like Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Ji say the rass of Naam begins in the body. The Gursikh initiates the rass of Naam from the nabhi and directs it consciously up to the dasam duar during practice of Naam Abhiyaas pranayam.

ਕਿਉ ਮੂਲੁ ਪਛਾਣੈ ਆਤਮੁ ਜਾਣੈ ਕਿਉ ਸਸਿ ਘਰਿ ਸੂਰੁ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥
kio mool pashhaanai aatham jaanai kio sas ghar soor samaavai ||
"How can the root, the source of all be realized? How can the soul know itself? How can the sun enter into the house of the moon?"

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਵਿਚਹੁ ਖੋਵੈ ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥੬੪॥
guramukh houmai vichahu khovai tho naanak sehaj samaavai ||64||
The Gurmukh eliminates egotism from within; then, O Nanak, the sun naturally enters into the home of the moon. ||64||

ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਨਿਹਚਲੁ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਵਸੀਅਲੇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮੂਲੁ ਪਛਾਣਿ ਰਹੈ ॥
eihu man nihachal hiradhai vaseealae guramukh mool pashhaan rehai ||
When the mind becomes steady and stable, it abides in the heart, and then the Gurmukh realizes the root, the source of all.

ਨਾਭਿ ਪਵਨੁ ਘਰਿ ਆਸਣਿ ਬੈਸੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਖੋਜਤ ਤਤੁ ਲਹੈ ॥
naabh pavan ghar aasan baisai guramukh khojath thath lehai ||
The breath is seated in the home of the navel; the Gurmukh searches, and finds the essence of reality.

ਸੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਆਛੈ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਜੋਤਿ ਸੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਲਹੈ ॥
s sabadh niranthar nij ghar aashhai thribhavan joth s sabadh lehai ||
This Shabad permeates the nucleus of the self, deep within, in its own home; the Light of this Shabad pervades the three worlds.
~SGGS Ji p. 945​


Gurbani also describes the lotus navel which is a reference to the opened and unfolded nabhi chakr.

ਨਾਭਿ ਕਮਲ ਅਸਥੰਭੁ ਨ ਹੋਤੋ ਤਾ ਪਵਨੁ ਕਵਨ ਘਰਿ ਸਹਤਾ ॥
naabh kamal asathhanbh n hotho thaa pavan kavan ghar sehathaa ||
When there was no support of the navel lotus, then in which home did the breath reside?

ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਹੋਤੋ ਰੇਖ ਨ ਕਾਈ ਤਾ ਸਬਦਿ ਕਹਾ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਈ ॥
roop n hotho raekh n kaaee thaa sabadh kehaa liv laaee ||
When there was no form or shape, then how could anyone lovingly focus on the Shabad?

ਰਕਤੁ ਬਿੰਦੁ ਕੀ ਮੜੀ ਨ ਹੋਤੀ ਮਿਤਿ ਕੀਮਤਿ ਨਹੀ ਪਾਈ ॥
rakath bindh kee marree n hothee mith keemath nehee paaee ||
When there was no dungeon formed from egg and sperm, who could measure the Lord's value and extent?
~SGGS Ji p. 945


And also the blossoming of the heart lotus. These are all references to the human chakr system and the necessity for the evolvement of lifeforce energy to open the chakrs to unfold the spiritual jeevan of the Gurmukh, ultimately leading to jeevan mukti. The entire process is clearly explained in Gurbani and supportive vaaran of Bhai Gurdas Ji.


ਹਿਰਦੈ ਕਮਲੁ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸਿਆ ਲਾਗਾ ਸਹਜਿ ਧਿਆਨੁ ॥
hiradhai kamal pragaasiaa laagaa sehaj dhhiaan ||
The heart-lotus blossoms forth, and they intuitively center themselves in meditation.

ਮਨੁ ਨਿਰਮਲੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਵਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਪਾਇਆ ਦਰਗਹਿ ਮਾਨੁ ॥੨॥
man niramal har rav rehiaa paaeiaa dharagehi maan ||2||
Their minds become pure, and they remain immersed in the Lord; they are honored in His Court. ||2||
~SGGS Ji p. 26


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Perhaps it is confusing or unclear to some readers what Gurbani is meaning when talking about the sun and the moon, the sun naturally withour effort (sehaj) entering into the house of the moon. And this is the key to the Raja yoga of Guruji which is also called Sehaj yoga, because it doesn't require severity or force, like the tantrics and other yogis use. It is a process which unfolds naturally according to the spiritual development of the Gursikh and his karam. So we don't have to try to stretch our tongues into kechari mudra of practice hathayogic stretches, asanas, bandhas/blocks. The Naam which we get from Guru will open these centers naturally and without force. But this is still a yogic process which is occuring, and relates to the metaphysical physiology of the ancient yogic traditions, even to the same complex use of yogic terminology and defined exact meanings described in Gurbani, and even to Gurbani describing the path as practiced to be Raja yoga and Guruji as being a Master of Raja yoga in Gurbani itself. To deny this is to completely miss the meanings and this is why the average Sikh doesn't have a clue what is the dasam duar. Because dasam duar fits into a total yogic framework. It explains the system by which the body-mind-atma are liberated from sansaara and experience nirvaana. You can't dislocate a concept like dasam duar from the contextual framework and expect it to make any sense. So back to the sun and the moon, this relates to the Ire (moon, coolness, left nostril) and the Pingala (sun, heat, right nostril). Thus it relates to a form of pranayama controlling the praan through breathing jugti as is more clear in the following pauri by Kabir Ji.

ਮੁਦ੍ਰਾ ਮਦਕ ਸਹਜ ਧੁਨਿ ਲਾਗੀ ਸੁਖਮਨ ਪੋਚਨਹਾਰੀ ਰੇ ॥੨॥
mudhraa madhak sehaj dhhun laagee sukhaman pochanehaaree rae ||2||
My mudra - my hand-gesture, is the pipe; tuning into the celestial sound current within, the Shushmanaa - the central spinal channel, is my cooling pad. ||2||

ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਸੁਚਿ ਸੰਜਮ ਰਵਿ ਸਸਿ ਗਹਨੈ ਦੇਉ ਰੇ ॥
theerathh barath naem such sanjam rav sas gehanai dhaeo rae ||
Pilgrimages, fasting, vows, purifications, self-discipline, austerities and breath control through the sun and moon channels - all these I pledge.

ਸੁਰਤਿ ਪਿਆਲ ਸੁਧਾ ਰਸੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਏਹੁ ਮਹਾ ਰਸੁ ਪੇਉ ਰੇ ॥੩॥
surath piaal sudhhaa ras anmrith eaehu mehaa ras paeo rae ||3||
My focused consciousness is the cup, and the Ambrosial Nectar is the pure juice. I drink in the supreme, sublime essence of this juice. ||3||

ਨਿਝਰ ਧਾਰ ਚੁਐ ਅਤਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਇਹ ਰਸ ਮਨੂਆ ਰਾਤੋ ਰੇ ॥
nijhar dhhaar chuai ath niramal eih ras manooaa raatho rae ||
The pure stream constantly trickles forth, and my mind is intoxicated by this sublime essence.

ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਸਗਲੇ ਮਦ ਛੂਛੇ ਇਹੈ ਮਹਾ ਰਸੁ ਸਾਚੋ ਰੇ ॥੪॥੧॥
kehi kabeer sagalae madh shhooshhae eihai mehaa ras saacho rae ||4||1||
Says Kabeer, all other wines are trivial and tasteless; this is the only true, sublime essence. ||4||1||

ਗੁੜੁ ਕਰਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਹੂਆ ਭਉ ਭਾਠੀ ਮਨ ਧਾਰਾ ॥
gurr kar giaan dhhiaan kar mehooaa bho bhaathee man dhhaaraa ||
Make spiritual wisdom the molasses, meditation the flowers, and the Fear of God the fire enshrined in your mind.

ਸੁਖਮਨ ਨਾਰੀ ਸਹਜ ਸਮਾਨੀ ਪੀਵੈ ਪੀਵਨਹਾਰਾ ॥੧॥
sukhaman naaree sehaj samaanee peevai peevanehaaraa ||1||
The Shushmanaa, the central spinal channel, is intuitively balanced, and the drinker drinks in this wine. ||1||

ਅਉਧੂ ਮੇਰਾ ਮਨੁ ਮਤਵਾਰਾ ॥
aoudhhoo maeraa man mathavaaraa ||
O hermit Yogi, my mind is intoxicated.

ਉਨਮਦ ਚਢਾ ਮਦਨ ਰਸੁ ਚਾਖਿਆ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਨ ਭਇਆ ਉਜਿਆਰਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
ounamadh chadtaa madhan ras chaakhiaa thribhavan bhaeiaa oujiaaraa ||1|| rehaao ||
When that wine rises up, one tastes the sublime essence of this juice, and sees across the three worlds. ||1||Pause||

ਦੁਇ ਪੁਰ ਜੋਰਿ ਰਸਾਈ ਭਾਠੀ ਪੀਉ ਮਹਾ ਰਸੁ ਭਾਰੀ ॥
dhue pur jor rasaaee bhaathee peeo mehaa ras bhaaree ||
Joining the two channels of the breath, I have lit the furnace, and I drink in the supreme, sublime essence.

ਕਾਮੁ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੁ ਦੁਇ ਕੀਏ ਜਲੇਤਾ ਛੂਟਿ ਗਈ ਸੰਸਾਰੀ ॥੨॥
kaam krodhh dhue keeeae jalaethaa shhoott gee sansaaree ||2||
I have burnt both sexual desire and anger, and I have been emancipated from the world. ||2||

ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸ ਗਿਆਨ ਗੁਰ ਗੰਮਿਤ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਸੁਧਿ ਪਾਈ ॥
pragatt pragaas giaan gur ganmith sathigur thae sudhh paaee ||
The light of spiritual wisdom enlightens me; meeting with the Guru, the True Guru, I have obtained this understanding.

ਦਾਸੁ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਤਾਸੁ ਮਦ ਮਾਤਾ ਉਚਕਿ ਨ ਕਬਹੂ ਜਾਈ ॥੩॥੨॥
dhaas kabeer thaas madh maathaa ouchak n kabehoo jaaee ||3||2||
Slave Kabeer is intoxicated with that wine, which never wears off. ||3||2||
~SGGS Ji p. 969
 
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Re: What is Dasam Duaar ?

"What is the dasam duaar?" Prt 2


Now at this point, the Gurbani is talking about something specific, amrita or nectar which was anciently also known as soma. This is not the amrit of Khande ki Pahul. This is not the amrit of Naam Vaheguru Gurmantara. This is the nectar which trickles down from the opening in the roof of the mouth which comes from the activation of the pineal and pituitary glands of the brain. It only comes after all the body chakrs have been purified and the praan cleared through them to reach upwards to the level of the sixth chakr at the third eye, and this stimulates this secretion.

This must take place so that the dasam duar can open. It is the literal "door of perception" that Aldous Huxley wrote about. It is the literal "holy grail" of all occultism and trance religion. It is the ancient secret of transcendence. But it doesn't come from ingesting psychoactive drugs like LSD, Ketamine, Ayahuasca, Peyote or anything transient and superficial like that. Those drugs can open our perception to unseen realms, but at price of causing brain damage and mental instability. The soma-amrit which trickles down is a product of the brain itself, naturally occurring through process of spiritual development, and guided by the Mastery of a Satguru.

An interesting parallel is in the discovery of aberrant breakdown metabolites of the neurotransmitter dopamine which is chemically configured very close to mescaline, the active component of peyote. This abberrant metabolite has been biochemically found as naturally occuring in a subset of the schizophrenic population. This shows that some variants of mental illness result from an imbalance in the psycho-spiritual system. It also must be pointed out why the Gurbani is talking about cooling the heat by entering into the house of the moon.

And this relates to kundalini shakti which if it enters the right nadi, unbalanced, it will go in an evil direction. That is why no one can successfully do this without a Satguru. I heard katha which told there are only 5 brahmgyanis alive in the world at any time. If this is true, there are thousands of insane siddhas who are half-baked spiritually, who have powers but not purification, not balance. So this goes to show there's a tremendous amount of spiritual immaturity, corruption and danger on the spiritual path in the Kalyug. But the only boat, the only method of liberation is this one. It is impossible to be liberated without a Satguru. No human can achieve it. The Naam which Gurbani speaks about as the only boat of salvation in the kalyug, is what activates this very process of physical, mental, and spiritual enlightenment, opening, unfoldment which the many vaaks in Gurbani attest.


ਸੋਮਵਾਰਿ ਸਸਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਝਰੈ ॥
somavaar sas anmrith jharai ||
On Monday, the Ambrosial Nectar trickles down from the moon.

ਚਾਖਤ ਬੇਗਿ ਸਗਲ ਬਿਖ ਹਰੈ ॥
chaakhath baeg sagal bikh harai ||
Tasting it, all poisons are removed in an instant.

ਬਾਣੀ ਰੋਕਿਆ ਰਹੈ ਦੁਆਰ ॥
baanee rokiaa rehai dhuaar ||
Restrained by Gurbani, the mind remains indoors;

ਤਉ ਮਨੁ ਮਤਵਾਰੋ ਪੀਵਨਹਾਰ ॥੨॥
tho man mathavaaro peevanehaar ||2||
drinking in this Nectar, it is intoxicated. ||2||
~SGGS Ji p. 344



ਆਪਿ ਦਇਆ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਵਸੀ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਚੋਇ ॥
aap dhaeiaa kar dhaevasee guramukh anmrith choe ||
In His Kindness, He blesses the Gurmukh with it; the Ambrosial Nectar of this Amrit trickles down.

ਸਭੁ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਹਰਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਵਸਿਆ ਮਨਿ ਸੋਇ ॥੪॥੫॥੬੯॥
sabh than man hariaa hoeiaa naanak har vasiaa man soe ||4||5||69||
Then, the body and mind totally blossom forth and flourish; O Nanak, the Lord comes to dwell within the mind. ||4||5||69||
~SGGS Ji p. 41



ਧੀਰਜੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਪਾਇਆ ਨਿਤ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੈ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਵੈ ॥
dhheeraj dhharam guramath har paaeiaa nith har naamai har sio chith laavai ||
Through the Guru's Teachings, I have obtained courage, faith and the Lord. He keeps my mind focused continually on the Lord, and the Name of the Lord.

ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਚਨ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਜੋ ਬੋਲੈ ਸੋ ਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥
anmrith bachan sathigur kee baanee jo bolai so mukh anmrith paavai ||2||
The Words of the True Guru's Teachings are Ambrosial Nectar; this Amrit trickles into the mouth of the one who chants them. ||2||
~SGGS Ji p. 494



ਹਰਿ ਭਜੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਰਸਨ ਰਸਾਇ ॥੩॥
har bhaj praanee rasan rasaae ||3||
O mortal, lovingly vibrate the Lord's Name with your tongue. ||3||
~SGGS Ji p. 222



Khecarī Mudrā is a yoga practice which is carried out by placing the tongue above the soft palate and into the nasal cavity. In the beginning stages, the tongue is placed in contact with the uvula at the back of the mouth. Variant spellings include Khechari Mudra, Kecharimudra, and Kechari Mudra. Mudrā (Sanskrit, मुद्रा, literally "seal"), when used in yoga, is a position that is designed to awaken spiritual energies in the body.

Bhattacharyya defines Khecarī Mudrā as "name of Yogic posture which bestows spiritual attainment and enables one to overcome disease and death." He explains that "Kha denotes brahman, and that power which moves (cara) as the kinetic energy of brahman is known (as) Khecarī." Singh defines Khecarī Mudrā as "the bliss of the vast expanse of spiritual consciousness, also known as divya mudrā or Śivāvasthā (the state of Śivā)." He further identifies it in a higher sense—with the end state of consciousness, and not just the physical posture used to achieve that end: "So Khecarī Mudrā in Śaiva āgama means a state of universal consciousness which is the state of Śiva."

The practice is mentioned in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika (III. 6-7). In recent times, it was taught by Paramahansa Yogananda as a part of Kriya Yoga practice. Yogananda stated that: "Through the performance of Kechari Mudra, touching the tip of the tongue to the uvula, or "little tongue," (or placing it in the nasal cavity behind the uvula), that divine life-current draws the prana from the senses into the spine and draws it up through the chakras to Vaishnavara (Universal Spirit), uniting the consciousness with spirit." Khecar& - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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ਖੇਚਰ ਭੂਚਰ ਚਾਚਰੀ ਉਨਮਨ ਲਘਿ ਅਗੋਚਰ ਬਾਣਾ ।
khaychar bhoochar chaacharee unaman|aghi agochar baanaa|
Getting above of the khechar bhuchar chachar, unman and agochar (all yogic postures) mudras he concentrates upon the One Lord.

ਪੰਚਾਇਣ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੋ ਪੰਚ ਸਬਦ ਘਨਘੋਰ ਨੀਸਾਣਾ ।
panchaain paramaysaro panch sabad ghanaghor neesaanaa|
He beholds God in five (select persons) and the five sounds of five words become his special marks.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪੰਚ ਭੂਆਤਮਾ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਸਾਧ ਸੁਹਾਣਾ ।
guramukhi panch bhooaatamaa saadhasangati mili saadh suhaanaa|
Antahkaran, the basis of all five external elements is cultivated and cultured by gurmukh in the holy congregation.

ਸਹਜ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਨ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਣਾ ॥੫॥
sahaj samaadhi n aavan jaanaa ॥5॥
This way immersing in undisturbed trance he gets liberated from the cycle of transmigration.
Vaar 7 Pauri 5 of Vaaran Bhai Gurdas Ji


And once the sixth chakra is reached, and the pineal and pituitary glands are stimulated to secrete the amrit which trickles down the opening in the roof of the mouth, and the nasal passages and throat are sealed off with jugti of kechari mudra, so the amrit is not lost but tasted, this opens the dasam duar. And the crown chakra, also known as the thousand petalled lotus unfolds into the higher dimensions.


ਊਂਧ ਕਵਲੁ ਜਿਸੁ ਹੋਇ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸਾ ਤਿਨਿ ਸਰਬ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਡੀਠਾ ਜੀਉ ॥੨॥
oonadhh kaval jis hoe pragaasaa thin sarab niranjan ddeethaa jeeo ||2||
Those, whose inverted lotus of the crown chakra is illuminated, see the Immaculate Lord everywhere. ||2||
~SGGS Ji p. 108


ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗੁਲਾ ਅਉਰੁ ਸੁਖਮਨਾ ਪਉਨੈ ਬੰਧਿ ਰਹਾਉਗੋ ॥
eirraa pingulaa aour sukhamanaa pounai bandhh rehaaougo ||
Then, I shall no longer control the breath through the energy channels of the Ida, Pingala and Shushmanaa.

ਚੰਦੁ ਸੂਰਜੁ ਦੁਇ ਸਮ ਕਰਿ ਰਾਖਉ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਜੋਤਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਜਾਉਗੋ ॥੨॥
chandh sooraj dhue sam kar raakho breham joth mil jaaougo ||2||
I look upon both the moon and the sun as the same, and I shall merge in the Light of God. ||2||
~SGGS Ji p. 973


In yogic philosophy there is a hole in the roof of the mouth through which a secretion drips after the brain is stimulated by practice of pranayam and the dasm duar opened by power of Gurmantara which is energetic vibration, sound and light of God's own presence and reality. It is an energy imprint that we attune our whole bdoy consciousness to. The tongue forms a mudra to block the throat/nasal passages so the nectar doesn't escape, and the tongue tastes the nectar. This practice is called kechari mudra. It is very clearly being described in Gurbani in several places as well as allusions to the amrit trickling down, tasting the nectar with tongue.

Additionally vaaran of Bhai Gurdas Ji expressly describes the various mudra including kechari mudra even in context of a Gurmukh. The purpose of the stimulation of the pineal and pituitary glands by stimulating nerve centers in the mouth with the tongue by proper intonation and chanting of Gurmantara combined with proper breathing drawing up the praan through subtle nadis which facillitates the brain stimulation opens the door of consciousness to expand beyond the limitations of the physical senses.

This is the process by which the consciousness is liberated from the confines of the brain and can perceive the subtle realities. This is the way a person becomes a brahmgyani and jeevan mukta in every Indic tradition including Buddhism. This is how Gautama Buddha was dexcribed as becoming enlightened for example. It's an ancient tradtion, not at all new to Sikhism. What is new to Sikhism is Guruji describes this process as coming about with sehaj, by Guru's grace, not by self-effort or by force.


ਜਪੁ ਤਪੁ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਹੋਹਿ ਜਬ ਰਾਖੇ ਕਮਲੁ ਬਿਗਸੈ ਮਧੁ ਆਸ੍ਰਮਾਈ ॥੨॥
jap thap sanjam hohi jab raakhae kamal bigasai madhh aasramaaee ||2||
When chanting, austere meditation and self-discipline become your protectors, then the lotus blossoms forth, and the honey trickles out. ||2||

ਬੀਸ ਸਪਤਾਹਰੋ ਬਾਸਰੋ ਸੰਗ੍ਰਹੈ ਤੀਨਿ ਖੋੜਾ ਨਿਤ ਕਾਲੁ ਸਾਰੈ ॥
bees sapathaaharo baasaro sangrehai theen khorraa nith kaal saarai ||
Bring the twenty-seven elements of the body under your control, and throughout the three stages of life, remember death.

ਦਸ ਅਠਾਰ ਮੈ ਅਪਰੰਪਰੋ ਚੀਨੈ ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਇਵ ਏਕੁ ਤਾਰੈ ॥੩॥੨੬॥
dhas athaar mai aparanparo cheenai kehai naanak eiv eaek thaarai ||3||26||
See the Infinite Lord in the ten directions, and in all the variety of nature. Says Nanak, in this way, the One Lord shall carry you across. ||3||26||
~SGGS Ji p. 23


This is the metaphysical physiological process by which the hidden gate of the site of former anterior fontanel which is closed in adults is opened on energetic level. This is how the praan moves from sixth chakr to open the 7th, how the nine gates are closed to open the tenth, dasam duar corresponds to the sahasrara chakra (crown) and unfolds the inverted thousand petaled lotus, which symbolically represents unrestricted Divine consciousness. The ire nadi is located to the left of the spine, is consisted negative charge. It represents female energy, coolness and is depicted as the moon (chandra). The pingala nadi is located to the right of the spine, is positive current. It represents the opposite electrical polarity is symbolized as male, heat, and as the sun (surya). To unite these two polarities is the confluence of the three (trikuti) where the shushmana meets and is balance of the energies at level of ajna chakra, third eye (pineal gland) center of forehead.

Without balance, a person can go insane with the incomplete activation of this spiritual process. The energy would be overwhelming to an unprepared human nervous system. This is why you sometimes see spontaneous kundalini kriyas with awkward spontaneous movements, strange vocalizations, intense laughing or crying for no apparent reason, and even riddh siddh powers. Sometimes the energy raised is clearing blocks in the chakrs when this happens. Sometimes the energy just gets stuck there and can't move past.

The shabad is an energized power word. And word is sound. And sound is frequency that oscillates with a certain rhythmic vibration. The shabad has the power to balance the energy centers of the human body-mind to align the consciousness with a certain energy frequency which is a healing property that oscillates in a flow with the bodies natural rhythyms and aligns the chakrs which are out of balance in most people. Just modern day living thows the whole energy balance of the body off. Our heart is regulated by a certain rhythym. Our brain waves oscillate a a certain frequency. The earth itself has a field of force which is vibration which influences the body. When we separate from the earth and live in concrete cities we disconnect from the natural rhythmic cycle. We consume foods with caffeine, we breathe polluted air, we don't have proper nutrition, we don't get proper balance of sleep. And in myriad of ways our internal chemistry, our internal biorhthyms and natural balance are altered. This affects the quality of our thought. It impacts our spiritual perception. Body is a tool. And the body can be out of balance. All of this has an effect on our spiritual jeevan. But Gurbani is medicine. Gurbani balances us and puts us back on the right path mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually. This balance is necessary if you are to understand the energetic function of the tenth gate of the body and how it reconnects you to the spiritual realities beyond physical perception. It is a process of reconnecting with energetic vibration which oscillates at a Divine frequency.


ਐਬ ਤਨਿ ਚਿਕੜੋ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਮੀਡਕੋ ਕਮਲ ਕੀ ਸਾਰ ਨਹੀ ਮੂਲਿ ਪਾਈ ॥
aib than chikarro eihu man meeddako kamal kee saar nehee mool paaee ||
The defect of the body which leads to sin is the mud puddle, and this mind is the frog, which does not appreciate the lotus flower at all.
~SGGS Ji p. 24


ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਮਲ ਮਧੁ ਤਾਸੁ ਰਸਾਦੰ ਜਾਗਤ ਨਾਹੀ ਸੂਤਾ ॥੭॥
breham kamal madhh thaas rasaadhan jaagath naahee soothaa ||7||
He enjoys the taste of the honey of God's lotus; he remains awake, and does not fall asleep. ||7||

ਮਹਾ ਗੰਭੀਰ ਪਤ੍ਰ ਪਾਤਾਲਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਰਬ ਜੁਆਇਆ ॥
mehaa ganbheer pathr paathaalaa naanak sarab juaaeiaa ||
This lotus is very deep; its leaves are the nether regions, and it is connected to the whole universe.

ਉਪਦੇਸ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਮ ਪੁਨਹਿ ਨ ਗਰਭੰ ਬਿਖੁ ਤਜਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਆਇਆ ॥੮॥੧॥
oupadhaes guroo mam punehi n garabhan bikh thaj anmrith peeaaeiaa ||8||1||
Under Guru's Instruction, I shall not have to enter the womb again; I have renounced the poison of corruption, and I drink in the Ambrosial Nectar. ||8||1||
~SGGS Ji p. 503


This particular tuk is very powerful because it is describing how the lotus is connected to the whole universe. This metaphysical concept of interconnectedness at the energetic particle level has been proven mathematically with theoretical physics. Even a brief glance at what some of the world's top physicists, Bohm, Einstein, Kaku are saying demonstrates the scientific reality of subtle tuks in Gurbani. The Gurbani is also making a connection between the lotus, the Divine conscious perception which occurs/unfolds when the dasm duar is opened and the perception of Divine interconnectedness with the whole universe. These are powerful and radical concepts which only today is science beginning to realize.

And even just this one tuk reaches into a sphere of understanding at a level of theoretical physics hundreds of years before the development of the science. And thus explains the process of how a brahmgyani is so enlightened in his mind, because his consciousness perceives multidimensionally the interconnected energetic wholeness of all created things. Because the dasam duar is opened, his mind is no longer constrained by the physicality of neural structures and processes, he intuitively reaches beyond through energetic connectivity at a quantum molecular level all things in the known universe and even beyond that. He can perceive unseen worlds because opening the dasm duar he transcends physical limitation of time and space. The thing is that material manifestation, while temporary and passing away still retains within it a pattern of the Divine, or materiality is patterned after deeper reality.

The deeper reality doesn't pass away, only the material structure. The pattern doesn't pass away and this is how the jeev carries karma from one lifetime to another. It carries the energetic imprint of it's past in the form of tendancies which are activated at birth. So the physical body is a vehicle for apprehending the Divine while in this very life. That concept of jeevan mukt is the heart of Nanakian spiritual philosophy. The physical body is a tool for transcending the limits of sansaara and freeing the consciousness which is entrapped by Maya, duality and the three qualities of phenomenal nature. The process by which this occurs is the opening of the thousand petaled lotus of the Divine Mind, unlocking the tenth gate. This severs our bondage to materiality and physical perception. Human individual consciousness merges into the pre-existing underlying hyperdimensionality of interconnected wholeness which is another way of saying the atma merges into Paramatma.

Just like a baby is connected to the mother by an umbilical cord, so the consciousness of a human being is connected by means of the energy flowing through the dasm duar. Only thing is, most everybody this gate is shut tight, and no way to open. So the Divine perception is lacking. Connection is there in a state of potential. Energy exists but it's impeded by karam and redirected outwards into sansaara. So we exist as insecure beings identified with what is passing away before our eyes every second. We know Gurbani tells us Akal Purakh exists within us, but we identify with ego, and the ego dies. We die a million deaths and gain all kinds of blocks and bondages and immerse in sense identification. Only a Satguru can free us. Only Satguru can help us lift the Divine energy up through the blocks and ties of lifetimes and give us experience, not ideology, true experiential perception of the energetic interconnected reality which is beyond even this universe. And that is our true nature. That is our real identity. That is what gives us bhairaag, this longing to transcend the suffering of transitory life and repeated death and be embraced experientially beyond mind and body in the everlasting that is the Light of Vaheguru's infinite love.

Great article on Sikhiwiki answers clearly in detail the original question, "What is dasam duaar?"
DASAM DVAR (Sanskrit Dasamadvara), literally meaning "tenth gate", has been refered to in SGGS signifying the door to enlightenment and vision being only through NAAM DAAN & ISHNAAN. This term originate from the Hathayogic system, where it is also known as brahmrandhra, moksadvara, mahapatha and madhya marga, the terms frequently used in the esoteric literature of medieval India. Also sometimes written as "Dasam Duara"

It is a term of religious physiology and its significance lies in its being a concept in the framework of soteriological ideology. Nine apertures (navdvaras) opening towards outside the body serve the physical mechanism of human personality but when their energy, normally being wasted, is consciously channelized towards the self, the tenth gate or the dasamdvar opens inside the body and renders a hyper-physical service by taking the seeker beyond the bondage of embodied existence.

The human body is endowed with nine doors also called holes or streams. These nine are: two eyes, two ears, two nostrils, mouth, ****, and urethra. All these are vital organs of living organism called human being. The Pali Suttanipata (verse 199. In Khuddak nikaya, vol. 1, p. 297) is perhaps one of the very first Indian texts which mentions the idea of nine ‘holes’ in the body. It is from a philosophically ascetic or Sramanic standpoint that the human body is described in this text as a mass of bones, sinews, flesh, etc. and as a bag for belly, intestines, liver, heart, bladder, lungs, kidneys, blood, bile, etc. “Ever from its nine streams (navahi sotehi) the unclean flows.” The Svetasvatara Upanisad (III. 18) and the Bhagavadgita (V. 13) refer to human body as “a city with nine gates” (nava dvara pure dehi) in which the Self dwells, neither acting nor causing to act. The Katha Upanisad (2.51), however, describes human abode of the Unborn One as “a city with eleven gates” (puram-ekadasa-dvaram). Mystical and soteriological significance of dasam dvar is found in the writings of the siddhas and the sants...

In the Buddhist caryapadas or hymns of spiritual practice, the dasama dvara is also called vairocana-dvara, the brilliant gate or the supreme gate. In the texts of the Natha school such as the Siddhasiddhanda paddhati (II. 6), the mouth of sankhini is called the tenth gate (sankhini-bibaram-dasam dvaram). Sankhini is the name of a curved duct (banka nala) through which nectar (soma rasa, maharasa or amrit) passes downwards. This curved duct lies between the moon (candra) below the sahasrara-cakra or thousand-petalled lotus plexus in the cebrum region and the hollow in the palatal region. The Goraksavijaya describes sankhini as a double-mouthed (dvi-mukhia) serpent (sarpini), one mouth above, the other below. The life elixir called amrit or nectar pours down through the mouth of sankhini. This mouth called dasamd var has to be shut up and the quintessence of life, amrit or maharasa has to be conserved by the yogi. The amrit which pours down from the dasam dvar falls down in the fire of the sun (surya) where it is dried up by time (kalagni). The yogi by closing the dasam dvar and preserving the amrit deceives Time (death) and by drinking it himself through cumbersome khecari-mudra he attains immortality. Some other hathayogic texts name susumna nari instead of sankhini. However, all the texts agree that the brahmrandhra or the dasamdvar is the cavity on the roof of the palate and khecari mudra has to be performed for tasting the elixir of the amrit pouring down from it...

The importance of dasamdvar is of considerable theological interest. Here at the tenth door the anahad sabda (unstruck sound) is heard; here the divine drink of immortality trickles down; and here the devotee meets with the invisible and inaccessible transcendental Brahman who is described by the sages as unutterable (GG, 1002). The devotional theology of Sikhism requires that the gateway of ultimate release can open only by God’s will. The tenth door is closed with the adamantine hard door (bajar kapat) which can be opened duly with the Guru’s word. Inside the front (i.e. the body) is the tenth door, the house in the cavity (gupha ghar); in this fort nine doors have been fixed according to Divine ordinance (hukam); in the tenth door the Invisible, Unwritten, Unlimited Person shows Himself—bhitari kot gupha ghar jai nau ghar thape hukami rajai; dasvai purakhu alekhu apari ape alakhu lakhaida (GG, 1033). This is the view expressed by the founder of Sikhism and he repeats it at another place also. He says that the Establisher has established nine houses (nau ghar) or nine doors in the city of this body; the Invisible and Infinite dwells at the tenth house or tenth door (GG, 1036). The nectar-like essence (amrit ras) is dripped by the Satguru; it comes out appearing at the tenth door. The sounding of the unstruck sound announces, as it were, the manifestation of God at this door — Amrit rasu satiguru chuaia; dasavai duari pragatu hoi aia; taha anahad sabad vajahi dhuni bani sahaje sahaji samai he (GG, 1069) The Siddhas, unlike the Sikh Gurus, find the amrit by their own effort. ~Above adapted from article By L. M. Joshi
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All jio
I have a few simple questions to the people who experienced "dasma duar" after having all this knowledge of physical anatomy
1. Who has realized HIM, please let the world know through this knowledge?
2 Names of the Sikhs who did it after having all this knowledge.
3. Who became exemplary after that experience as our Guru ji did to guid others, or it is another secret mission like Radha swamis?
 

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All jios,

This is a naive question, I know. Is it possible to know Him (as pk70 phrases it) without activating Dasam Duarr? Or is it assumed that once knowing Him, Dasam Duarr has been activated?

And what is the correct term? Something better than "activated" which sounds like a timed reaction has taken place. Maybe "opened" is a better term.

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The state of opening of dasm Dwar can only be discussed and ,probably, cannot be explained as it is intangible for all of us.
 
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Is it possible to know Him (as pk70 phrases it) without activating Dasam Duarr? Or is it assumed that once knowing Him, Dasam Duarr has been activated?

Wouldn't the simple answer be, "what does Gurbani say?" Since this has nothing to do with Radhasoami's, it should be clearly written in Gurbani. If Gurbani says this is how to have darshan of Vaheguru, what can anyone say?

I have a few simple questions to the people who experienced "dasma duar" after having all this knowledge of physical anatomy
1. Who has realized HIM, please let the world know through this knowledge?
2 Names of the Sikhs who did it after having all this knowledge.
3. Who became exemplary after that experience as our Guru ji did to guid others, or it is another secret mission like Radha swamis?
I have not had opening of dasm duar so I am not capable to answer. Do you think Sikhs can't obtain the liberation spoken of in Gurbani? And since we are describing a process of merging into the Divine, what purpose would individual names and personalities be? Do you think a real sant advertises to prove something? The Sikh Panth has had many holy enlightened souls, probably we do not know them all. Do you want me to pick a saint so you can knock him down and find his flaws? We are liberated by what Guru has given us, not by some revelation of a person who became exemplary. And yes, probably the making of a sant is something which is gupt from the world like a secret mission since the sansaara is always chasing after false fame, it probably doesn't even notice a truly holy soul. Can we see into the spiritual jeevan of others when we can't even look in the mirror at our true selves?


ਨਉ ਦਰਵਾਜੇ ਦਸਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਾ ਅਨਹਦ ਸਬਦੁ ਵਜਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੩॥
no dharavaajae dhasavai mukathaa anehadh sabadh vajaavaniaa ||3||
Beyond the nine gates, the Tenth Gate is found, and liberation is obtained. The Unstruck Melody of the Shabad vibrates. ||3||

ਸਚਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸਚੀ ਨਾਈ ॥
sachaa saahib sachee naaee ||
True is the Master, and True is His Name.

ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਮੰਨਿ ਵਸਾਈ ॥
gur parasaadhee mann vasaaee ||
By Guru's Grace, He comes to dwell within the mind.

ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਸਦਾ ਰਹੈ ਰੰਗਿ ਰਾਤਾ ਦਰਿ ਸਚੈ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੪॥
anadhin sadhaa rehai rang raathaa dhar sachai sojhee paavaniaa ||4||
Night and day, remain attuned to the Lord's Love forever, and you shall obtain understanding in the True Court. ||4||

ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਨ ਕੀ ਸਾਰ ਨ ਜਾਣੀ ॥
paap punn kee saar n jaanee ||
Those who do not understand the nature of sin and virtue

ਦੂਜੈ ਲਾਗੀ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਣੀ ॥
dhoojai laagee bharam bhulaanee ||
are attached to duality; they wander around deluded.

ਅਗਿਆਨੀ ਅੰਧਾ ਮਗੁ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੫॥
agiaanee andhhaa mag n jaanai fir fir aavan jaavaniaa ||5||
The ignorant and blind people do not know the way; they come and go in reincarnation over and over again. ||5||
~SGGS Ji p. 110



ਖਟ ਨੇਮ ਕਰਿ ਕੋਠੜੀ ਬਾਂਧੀ ਬਸਤੁ ਅਨੂਪੁ ਬੀਚ ਪਾਈ ॥
khatt naem kar kotharree baandhhee basath anoop beech paaee ||
He fashioned the body chamber with six rings, and placed within it the incomparable thing.

ਕੁੰਜੀ ਕੁਲਫੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਕਰਿ ਰਾਖੇ ਕਰਤੇ ਬਾਰ ਨ ਲਾਈ ॥੧॥
kunjee kulaf praan kar raakhae karathae baar n laaee ||1||
He made the breath of life the watchman, with lock and key to protect it; the Creator did this in no time at all. ||1||

ਅਬ ਮਨ ਜਾਗਤ ਰਹੁ ਰੇ ਭਾਈ ॥
ab man jaagath rahu rae bhaaee ||
Keep your mind awake and aware now, O Sibling of Destiny.

ਗਾਫਲੁ ਹੋਇ ਕੈ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਓ ਚੋਰੁ ਮੁਸੈ ਘਰੁ ਜਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
gaafal hoe kai janam gavaaeiou chor musai ghar jaaee ||1|| rehaao ||
You were careless, and you have wasted your life; your home is being plundered by thieves. ||1||Pause||

ਪੰਚ ਪਹਰੂਆ ਦਰ ਮਹਿ ਰਹਤੇ ਤਿਨ ਕਾ ਨਹੀ ਪਤੀਆਰਾ ॥
panch peharooaa dhar mehi rehathae thin kaa nehee patheeaaraa ||
The five senses stand as guards at the gate, but now can they be trusted?

ਚੇਤਿ ਸੁਚੇਤ ਚਿਤ ਹੋਇ ਰਹੁ ਤਉ ਲੈ ਪਰਗਾਸੁ ਉਜਾਰਾ ॥੨॥
chaeth suchaeth chith hoe rahu tho lai paragaas oujaaraa ||2||
When you are conscious in your consciousness, you shall be enlightened and illuminated. ||2

ਨਉ ਘਰ ਦੇਖਿ ਜੁ ਕਾਮਨਿ ਭੂਲੀ ਬਸਤੁ ਅਨੂਪ ਨ ਪਾਈ ॥
no ghar dhaekh j kaaman bhoolee basath anoop n paaee ||
Seeing the nine openings of the body, the soul-bride is led astray; she does not obtain that incomparable thing.

ਕਹਤੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਨਵੈ ਘਰ ਮੂਸੇ ਦਸਵੈਂ ਤਤੁ ਸਮਾਈ ॥੩॥੨੨॥੭੩॥
kehath kabeer navai ghar moosae dhasavain thath samaaee ||3||22||73||
Says Kabeer, the nine openings of the body are being plundered; rise up to the Tenth Gate, and discover the true essence. ||3||22||73||
~SGGS Ji p. 339



ਐਸਾ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਅਭ ਮੋਰੇ ॥
aisaa giaan sunahu abh morae ||
Listen to such spiritual wisdom, O my mind.

ਭਰਿਪੁਰਿ ਧਾਰਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਭ ਠਉਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
bharipur dhhaar rehiaa sabh thourae ||1|| rehaao ||
The Lord is totally pervading and permeating all places. ||1||Pause||

ਸਚੁ ਬ੍ਰਤੁ ਨੇਮੁ ਨ ਕਾਲੁ ਸੰਤਾਵੈ ॥
sach brath naem n kaal santhaavai ||
One who makes Truthfulness his fast and religious vows, does not suffer the pain of death.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਬਦਿ ਕਰੋਧੁ ਜਲਾਵੈ ॥
sathigur sabadh karodhh jalaavai ||
Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, he burns away his anger.

ਗਗਨਿ ਨਿਵਾਸਿ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਲਗਾਵੈ ॥
gagan nivaas samaadhh lagaavai ||
He dwells in the Tenth Gate, immersed in the Samaadhi of deep meditation.

ਪਾਰਸੁ ਪਰਸਿ ਪਰਮ ਪਦੁ ਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥
paaras paras param padh paavai ||2||
Touching the philosopher's stone, he obtains the supreme status. ||2||

ਸਚੁ ਮਨ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਤਤੁ ਬਿਲੋਵੈ ॥
sach man kaaran thath bilovai ||
For the benefit of the mind, churn the true essence of reality;

ਸੁਭਰ ਸਰਵਰਿ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਧੋਵੈ ॥
subhar saravar mail n dhhovai ||
bathing in the over-flowing tank of nectar, filth is washed away.

ਜੈ ਸਿਉ ਰਾਤਾ ਤੈਸੋ ਹੋਵੈ ॥
jai sio raathaa thaiso hovai ||
We become like the One with whom we are imbued.
~SGGS Ji p. 411



ਬੈਰਾਗੈ ਤੇ ਹਰਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਰਹੈ ਸਮਾਇ ॥੨॥
bairaagai thae har paaeeai har sio rehai samaae ||2||
Through this detachment, the Lord is obtained, and one remains absorbed in the Lord. ||2

ਸੇਇ ਮੁਕਤ ਜਿ ਮਨੁ ਜਿਣਹਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਧਾਤੁ ਨ ਲਾਗੈ ਆਇ ॥
saee mukath j man jinehi fir dhhaath n laagai aae ||
He alone is liberated, who conquers his mind; Maya does not stick to him again.

ਦਸਵੈ ਦੁਆਰਿ ਰਹਤ ਕਰੇ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਾਇ ॥੩॥
dhasavai dhuaar rehath karae thribhavan sojhee paae ||3||
He dwells in the Tenth Gate, and obtains the understanding of the three worlds. ||3||

ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਗੁਰੁ ਹੋਇਆ ਵੇਖਹੁ ਤਿਸ ਕੀ ਰਜਾਇ ॥
naanak gur thae gur hoeiaa vaekhahu this kee rajaae ||
O Nanak, through the Guru, one becomes the Guru; behold, His Wondrous Will.
~SGGS Ji p. 490



ਤਤਾ ਅਤਰ ਤਰਿਓ ਨਹ ਜਾਈ ॥
thathaa athar thariou neh jaaee ||
TATTA: The impassable world-ocean cannot be crossed over;

ਤਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਮਹਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਸਮਾਈ ॥
than thribhavan mehi rehiou samaaee ||
the body remains embroiled in the three worlds.

ਜਉ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਤਨ ਮਾਹਿ ਸਮਾਵਾ ॥
jo thribhavan than maahi samaavaa ||
But when the Lord of the three worlds enters into the body,

ਤਉ ਤਤਹਿ ਤਤ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਸਚੁ ਪਾਵਾ ॥੨੨॥
tho thathehi thath miliaa sach paavaa ||22||
then one's essence merges with the essence of reality, and the True Lord is attained. ||22

ਥਥਾ ਅਥਾਹ ਥਾਹ ਨਹੀ ਪਾਵਾ ॥
thhathhaa athhaah thhaah nehee paavaa ||
T'HAT'HA: He is Unfathomable; His depths cannot be fathomed.

ਓਹੁ ਅਥਾਹ ਇਹੁ ਥਿਰੁ ਨ ਰਹਾਵਾ ॥
ouhu athhaah eihu thhir n rehaavaa ||
He is Unfathomable; this body is impermanent, and unstable.

ਥੋੜੈ ਥਲਿ ਥਾਨਕ ਆਰੰਭੈ ॥
thhorrai thhal thhaanak aaranbhai ||
The mortal builds his dwelling upon this tiny space;

ਬਿਨੁ ਹੀ ਥਾਭਹ ਮੰਦਿਰੁ ਥੰਭੈ ॥੨੩॥
bin hee thhaabheh mandhir thhanbhai ||23||
without any pillars, he wishes to support a mansion. ||23||

ਦਦਾ ਦੇਖਿ ਜੁ ਬਿਨਸਨਹਾਰਾ ॥
dhadhaa dhaekh j binasanehaaraa ||
DADDA: Whatever is seen shall perish.

ਜਸ ਅਦੇਖਿ ਤਸ ਰਾਖਿ ਬਿਚਾਰਾ ॥
jas adhaekh thas raakh bichaaraa ||
Contemplate the One who is unseen.

ਦਸਵੈ ਦੁਆਰਿ ਕੁੰਚੀ ਜਬ ਦੀਜੈ ॥
dhasavai dhuaar kunchee jab dheejai ||
When the key is inserted in the Tenth Gate,

ਤਉ ਦਇਆਲ ਕੋ ਦਰਸਨੁ ਕੀਜੈ ॥੨੪॥
tho dhaeiaal ko dharasan keejai ||24||
then the Blessed Vision of the Merciful Lord's Darshan is seen. ||24||
~SGGS Ji p. 341
 
Oct 14, 2007
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Gurbani also states clearly to do 'naam simran' after cleansing our mind.

It has never stated to do anything for opening the Gate or the Dasam Dwaar.It opens if we are Graced upon by HIM.

So why should we discuss this now when the querist is no longer interested.?

For me it is purely academic and i would love to read your posts as these are very informative though they may not have much to do with sikhi ,sometimes.

You would be doing a lot of sewa for all of us if you begin a thread on ' How to interpret bani' or some other topic that you have preferece /liking for.
It is then we shall learn more from you. In arguments and debates both parties stand to lose. In any case we should not argue upon something that is well settled.

With the kind of knowledge and language skills that you have, I am sure, you shall oblige us.

With regards.

E&OE

It is your privilege to continue or give it a rest.
 
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You are complimentary. But 2 people have asked questions. So why stay silent? Why not discuss and learn? No one loses with debate or disagreement. For long after both parties with take with them exposure to a different perspective. In fact, some people who I've most strongly disagreed with I hold in high respect because I learn from them.

Yes, I am in full agreement. There is a union of God occuring which is described in Gurbani in terms of hathayogic terminology, but it is not a practice of yoga exercises by which this is obtained. And it isn't purely grace either. Gurbani says it is also the karam of the individual. Gurbani says good karam is the result of good actions. Gurbani has given a powerful way to unite with Vaheguru by practice of righteous dharam. We are enjoined by Gurbani to jap the Naam and vibrate Naam on our tongues with our every breath, so yes, there is a practice, well established for how to open dasam duar. And this goes to show just how metaphysically important it is to Jaap Naam and keep Naam Simran during amrit vela. For you it is purely academic. For me it is the reason to get up in the morning, so it is the love of my life. You say my posts have nothing to do with Sikhi. How unfortunate. Maybe your opinion is too harsh. For some people who have a lot of doubts about the reality of Guru, or the reality of some difficult concepts in Gurbani (and I have one friend whose son is studying to be a doctor and now declares himself to be an atheist) showing the science actually supports the teachings of Gurbani gives them something interesting to think about. I don't know about you, but to read scientists actually talking about what Guru Sahib said hundreds of years ago is very exciting to me.

Does it say in Gurbani stop studying and don't learn anything? Will not knowing somehow make us holy?
 
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Respected sis,
I have never stated that you are off the sikhi. I have stated only sometimes. Even there you may be talking of sikhism but it goes tangent to me as i cannot connect. I have an ordinary intellect and cannot see as to how you connect the various 'tuks'.There was no intention of saying things as "harsh'. But For that I seek thy forgiveness only. In future pl. do not consider as anything harsh.It is the language only. We all have one common factor that we are all seekers and the lovers of god in our own way.If you take the things in this spirit you will ignore many things,i am sure.

All that i mean ,without disrespect, is that you can contribute by some other methods all that you want to convey. I do resort to it by posting in 'New to sikhism" or in 'Essay' or in 'Spiritual Essays".

My Dear Sis, we all have some basics concept built up in sub-consciousness and when those concepts are likely to be altered we tend to agitate. There is nothing more than this that I want to state for the time being.

When u post something as a starter of the thread you owe a responsibility to take along all the readers and the members and explain the things when some member points something that may not be in line with current thinking.

it was in this light that it was suggested as the best 'sewa' that can be done by any individual who has the clear understanding of the things.


Best Of Regards
E&OE
 

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Harjas ji

Your statement:There is a union of God occuring which is described in Gurbani in terms of hathayogic terminology, but it is not a practice of yoga exercises by which this is obtained. And it isn't purely grace either. Gurbani says it is also the karam of the individual. Gurbani says good karam is the result of good actions. Gurbani has given a powerful way to unite with Vaheguru by practice of righteous dharam. We are enjoined by Gurbani to jap end quote

I continue on this path.

The following statement is the focus of my previous question.

you said so yes, there is a practice, well established for how to open dasam duar. And this goes to show just how metaphysically important it is to Jaap Naam and keep Naam Simran during amrit vela end quote

Perhaps I am missing an important connection. Here again is something you said, We are liberated by what Guru has given us end quote

And I am completely content with the idea that Guru has given me everything I need now and forever.

But this question, Do you think Sikhs can't obtain the liberation spoken of in Gurbani? end quote

Of course I do. However, your question takes me back to my own naivete. I have always thought that Gurbani is all I need for mukhti. I live my life based on the premise that Gurbani gives me all I need for mukhti. Let me restate my question. Does one have to open the 10th Gate to gain mukhti? Is opening the 10th Gate a prerequisite for mukhti? See, I am missing an important connection. And would like to know what it is.

Here is why I ask this question. Many paths other than Sikhi claim that the 10th Gate opens in profound meditation. These paths do not have the benefit of Gurbani. I am turning the problem around 180 degrees by asking, Can one find mukhti through profound simran and dhyann of Guruji without opening the 10th Gate?

Regards
 
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