jahan_bakshi
SPNer
well this is not a debate with anybody just to know the insights of the facts ..
sory for offending anyone ...
sory for offending anyone ...
I have just discovered this site, found it very interesting.
I have a question.. Is Guru Nanak Dev Ji our god? as I have done research hes just a guru as in teacher.. but the way i was brought up, it was known to me as my god.
Thanks
not funny
yeah
not funny and IMHO a crude and male ego satisfying cartoon
<<"It looks pretty strange when we see a Gursikh man with a wife having trimmed hair and wearing short clothes. Is it not shameful on our part if we cannot influence our life partner to follow the tenets of Sikhism" >>
<<"It looks pretty strange when we see a Gursikh man with a wife having trimmed hair and wearing short clothes. Is it not shameful on our part if we cannot influence our life partner to follow the tenets of Sikhism" >>
this statement KDS ji, specially the words - shameful, influence
we have had a long debate over this stuff
i don't think the topic deserves another debate.
I thought that maybe the imagery was a little sexist in that the man was typically covered up and the woman in short skirt, tight shirt and makeup. Would we have laughed if the roles were reversed -- woman in salwar kameez, hair covered with dastar and chunni, driving in front and the man in tights shorts with a skin tight t-shirt and hair cut?
Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh
The cartoon of a Singh riding a scooter while his wife is the pillion rider shows how most of the society feels about a Sikh marrying a non-Sikh.
How do you know how Most of Society feels about anything?
Indian Sikh society, especially in Punjab are very conservative in terms of marriage. They don't even marry outside their caste leave aside religion. Yes, the society at large is sexist & has double standards.
Your observation may be true -- I don't know -- and would need to see some data to check things out. But that doesn't matter in the discussion. The cartoon's lack of humor is what we were taking a look at in the last several posts. Three women didn't think it was funny. One of them lives in India.
For example if the girl in picture was his girl friend or lover than it is looked upon as an achievement but not as his wife. That's not nice. I hope that view is not prevalent. If it is we have a couple of :}8-:s working at large.
On the other hand it is unimaginable to think that a Sikh girl is riding with a non-Sikh leave aside coming across one in Punjab. If such a case is discovered by someone in the family or relative or community or village that means disaster. Your comment reinforces the idea that the cartoon promotes a sexist view. When I said male-centric I was trying to be polite. Maybe that was a mistake.
One can only encounter a Sikh (Bhekhi or Fake) marrying a non-Sikh when the person & family is gaining something like foreign visa, citizenship, money, property, status etc
Always?
Sardar (ones keeping hair but not following Gurmat) and ones born in a Sikh family but not following Gurmat, don't mind getting married to a non-Sikh.
No Gursikh will give into Kaam (lust) or Moh (emotional attachment) to choose a non-Sikh for marriage unless he or she is not a Gursikh to begin with ! Are Kaam and Moh 2 of 5 :}8-:s? Is marrying a nonSikh the 6th :}8-: that we didn't hear about until now? Do you think I should get a divorce then?
Most of the readers of foreign origin will find all this funny or hard to believe but that is how it is !
I find this neither funny nor hard to believe.
As for being sexist society, why do you think that birth ratio of girls is very low in Indian or Punjabi society compared to boys ? I think many Sikhs of Indian origin and in Indian society are very upset by this and are working to see to it that policies and laws are enforced by the government that prohibit female foeticide.
Lastly it is vital to find a compatible match having the same spiritual level of understanding in regards to religion for marriage. No argument with this statement -- but spiritual level of understanding is not limited to Sikhs.
Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh