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Is It 'Beadbi' If A Clean-Shaven Guy Wears A Pag (Turban Worn Sikh-Style)?

Gyani Jarnail Singh

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amr ji,
the tongue, the hands, the heart..the feet....ALL work under direct authority of the BRAIN..HEAD...MIND.
IF the MIND says..go to the PUB and drink..the Feet will walk that way..the Hands will hold the glassee..and the Tongue will savour the Whisky..the EARS will enjoy Bhangra lacher geets and the EYES will see Half naked girls dancing on TV...chamkilas songs instead of Kirtan...
ONLY when the MIND says..go to bthe Gurdwara..will the feet lead that way..the Hands will fold and pray..the tongue will say Gurbani..the EARS will hear Kirtan...Eyes will see "God's people/sangat"...and body will serve the sangat...etc etc..
In other words..ALL of them are "sleepers" until the HEAD awakens them...so its the HEAD thats the HEAD...and thats why its covered with the CROWN...and the FEET covered with SHOES...rather than the other way around.
Just the other day a SHOE was THROWN at soemone....ever heard of a DASTAAR being thrown that way ??..even when OFF the HEAD..the dastaar has a class of its own..HIGH CLASS/Honourable.
 

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Turban has been used centuries before the Sikh way of life came in to being. It was a status symbol indicating superiority or leadership (ਸਿਕਦਾਰ) or was worn by kings etc. The spirituality touch to the turban can only be given by utilizing the moral values of compassion, contentment, continence, truth, righteousness, and good deeds. With out these moral values it is just an ordinary part of the dress to protect the hairs and when combined with other symbols are considered as a source of identity of Sikhs. It does not confer spirituality per se for which one has to work hard and taking the prescriptions laid down in AGGS, so the question of disrespect to what (?) does not arise.

Virinder S. Grewal

Bibliography;

  • Guru Nanak, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 471-2
  • Guru Nanak, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 470-17
  • Guru Arjan, Raag Maru, AGGS, Page, 1084-9
  • Kabir, Raag Kidara, AGGS, Page, 1124-5
 

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No where in Gurbani of SGGS... and no poster has ever indicated that wearing a dastaar and the 5Ks confers "spirituality" or "superiority"....or a free ticket into Heaven...and vice versa ticket to hell for not wearing them. Such a stance cannot be backed up and no one has done this in any posts.
Similar logic also stands in respect of "spirituality" "superiority" a free ticket to heaven..good hearted etc etc as AUTOMATIC in persons who dont wear the dastaar/5ks. SHUBH AMLAAN BAJHOH DOVEHN ROVEH....applies.
Both....one who wears a dastaar and thinks he is automatically "holy"..and the Nanga sir who thinks barehead confers "holiness" on him are wrong in basic logic.
Guur Gobind Singh ji also NEVER said all those who wear the 5Ks are AUTOMATICALLY welcome in my "heaven"..( that they can do anything, commit any crimes..but simply having the 5ks guarantees them my pleasure...) So what the big fuss ?? why go on and on....it has been said time and again that the PAHUL is just a FIRST STEP...the real hard work FOLLOWS this....steps towards spirituality BEGIN after PAHUL...if someone claims otherwise..its his folly..just as its his folly if someone claims spirituality just because he shaves.
BUt ...in MALAYSIA..an avowed clean shaven..who used to argue that his clean shaven look is all the spirituality he ever needs and he is just as good a sikh as any so called 5ks wearer..and who was seen pushing his way to the front dastarless as a Sikh "leader" recently took to wearing a dsataar when trying to project the "sikh leader" look. WHY he adopted this "look" when he knows and everyone knows that the cleanshavens are more than 90% of the Sikh population... I also met a famous clean shaven advocate of spirituality in Chandigarh in 2006..back home in USA he goes dastarless...BUT at an IOSS Seminar..he wore a dastaar ( probably to appear more Sikh like among all the dastaar dharees ) I must admit i havent yet met a Dastaarwallh taking OFF his puggh among the clean shaven sikhs to appear more like them....even though they may be bald due to old age...Once a puggh wallah always a pughhwallah...
So to me its more of a personal attitude/problem...go with whatever your heart says....just remain calm and peaceful.....all will be OK..as there are millions of cleanshavens already...a few more wont do any harm..the KHALSA was never about MAJORITY anyway. So YES disrespect or no respect or respect..its all in ones own attitude.....:D:D:D:D:D:D
 

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Dear Bhagat Ji,

I agree with your comments. Turban has been used centuries before the Sikh way of life came in to being. It was a status symbol indicating superiority or leadership (ਸਿਕਦਾਰ) or was worn by kings etc. The spirituality touch to the turban can only be given by utilizing the moral values of compassion, contentment, continence, truth, righteousness, and good deeds. With out these moral values it is just an ordinary part of the dress to protect the hairs and when combined with other symbols are considered as a source of identity of Sikhs. It does not confer spirituality per se for which one has to work hard following the prescription laid down in AGGS, so the question on disrespect to what (?) does not arise.

Cordially

Virinder S. Grewal

Bibliography;

  • Guru Nanak, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 471-2
  • Guru Nanak, Raag Asa, AGGS, Page, 470-17
  • Guru Arjan, Raag Maru, AGGS, Page, 1084-9
  • Kabir, Raag Kidara, AGGS, Page, 1124-5


 

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Giani Ji Says,

"So to me its more of a personal attitude/problem...go with whatever your heart says....just remain calm and peaceful.....all will be OK..as there are millions of cleanshavens already...a few more wont do any harm..the KHALSA was never about MAJORITY anyway. So YES disrespect or no respect or respect..its all in ones own attitude.”

Dear Giani Ji,

Attitude is a complex mental state involving beliefs, feelings, values and dispositions to act in certain ways. It affects the choices one makes. Attitude of gratitude creates happiness because it makes us feel full and complete. It is the realization that we have everything we need, at least in the present moment. Gratitude bears only positive feelings -- love, compassion, joy and hope. It melts away fear, anger and bitterness. Mind needs Akal Purkh’s Grace for its control. God’s Grace is blessed to those individuals who become better humans by an active effort of subjugating the lower instincts and develop higher instincts, by supplicating Akal Purkh in their prayers, to remove their character defects.

>If the lower instincts dominate the higher ones, the result is a negative attitude.

>If the higher instincts dominate or kill the lower instincts, the result is Spiritual Progress with a positive attitude.

I will be the first to admit that when I've failed in life, I've caused my own failures. My attitude hasn't always been a positive one. I spent that time in my life focusing on the negative rather than the positive, on the limitations rather than on the potentials, on what I was missing rather than on what I had. I can’t tell you when the change occurred, or where, or how. It's been a long process. I still have to keep working at in order to keep it going. I have learned through reading, deliberating, reflecting in action, watching people, and asking questions. I had to learn that my world is what I make of it. I have been blessed with many gifts, but it's up to me whether I use them. If I do not, I'm pretty much wasting my time on this planet. I always saw this as something that was so easy to say, because people who had their acts together always said it.

It took me a while to realize that by focusing on the negative things in my life, I was perpetuating them through my fears. As I slowly began to shift my focus to the positive, I found that life became more and more positive as I detached myself away from it. Eventually, I became one of the people who say that it's your attitude more than anything else that determine how your life goes. When I started to change my attitude, I started to see that life doesn't determine who I am or how happy or unhappy I am--life doesn't care. The world is impersonal. But I care, and I prefer to be positive and happy. I'm much better to myself when I am, and I'm much better for others when I am.

Our attitude tells the world what we expect in return. If it's a cheerful, expectant attitude, it says to everyone with whom we come in contact that we expect the best in our dealings with the world. You see, we tend to live up to our expectations. And others give to us, as far as their attitudes are concerned, what we expect. Our attitude is something we can control. We can establish our attitude each morning when we start our day. In fact, we do just that, whether or not we realize it. And the people in our family -- all the people in our world -- will reflect back to us the attitude we present to them. It is, then, our attitude toward life that determines life's attitude toward us. Everything we say or do will cause a corresponding effect. If we're cheerful, glad to be experiencing this miracle of life, others will reflect that good cheer back to us.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Attitudes are contagious. Are yours worth catching?
Every day may not be good, but there's something good in every day. Happiness is an attitude. We either make ourselves miserable, or happy and strong. The amount of work is the same. He who has so little knowledge of human nature as to seek happiness by changing anything but his own disposition will waste his life in fruitless efforts. If you don't like something change it; if you can't change it, change the way you think about it. The only people who find what they are looking for in life are the fault finders. Think big thoughts but relish small pleasures. Every thought is a seed. If you plant crab apples, don't count on harvesting Golden Delicious. Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed. To be upset over what you don't have is to waste what you do have. The only disability in life is a bad attitude. My riches consist not in the extent of my possessions, but in the fewness of my wants. There is nothing so easy but that it becomes difficult when you do it reluctantly. Just because you're miserable doesn't mean you can't enjoy your life.
All the while I'm working to change my attitude:

I let go of revenge.
I want to "get well," instead of "get even."
I will no longer wallow in resentment.
I still have wounds, but I no longer nurse them: instead,
I immerse them in helping others; and
I reverse them by changing my negatives into positives.
I am on my way to becoming better than before.


Cordially,
Virinder S. Grewal
 
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