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sikh78910

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Originally Posted by shere punjab
shere punjab is still following the roots...muslim boys terrorise sikh boys, its a war thats all, muslims want us 2 fight back, so we do...at the end of the day we are protectig our girls and our religon, no matter the concequences...sp are mainly sikh people now...people see us as a gang of reckless trouble makers, yes we drink, smoke, have girlfriends and so on..but the purpose of shere punjab is still there

fair enough mate but u really are not a sikh if you drink or smoke or have sex before marriage.

wht you are is an outright insult to the memories of our great gurus and saint soldiers of the past, who before they were allowed to fight, had to obtain certain virtues and abstain from certain temptations first, including drinking smoking and drug taking. these temptations can ruin a man and an turn even the most viruous of humans into animals, e.g my father who used to be the sweetest man i knew but after drinking for many years has become an alcoholic child and wife beater not to mention a serial adulterer who does not work for his family.

do you look upon each girl that you may save from muslims as your sister or as a piece of shaggable meat? have you ever woken up at 4 in the morning and done the paath that would gain you the spiritual energetic powers to fight and never lose in battle as shown by the gurus and both male and female saint soldiers, to thank god for verything u have and that you are not i the midst of some war or dying of aids?

forming a defensive group like the sp crew is a privelege which should not be yours as as much as u may fight for what is right, it will never matter. you have no place in sachkhand unless you realise how foolish you have been. guru gobind singh ji sacrifcied his OWN BEAUTIFUL AND UNBELIEVABLY COURAGEOUS CHILDREN to preserve sikhism for u and I and u cannot even sacrifice cigarettes and alcohol.

Ill let u in on a little something, i used to go to uni and drink and smoke like anything smoke weed and go clubbing 3+ nights a week. then one day my life changed. i read the story of how guru gobind singh ji sacrificed everything he loved for sikhism and saw how amazing our ancestors were . living with them would have ben like heavan on earth, there would have been no backstabbing or evil amongst friends (sangat), only the same love for our father. their bravery is unrivalled, women whos children were chopped alive into pieces before their eyes and strung by moghuls around their necks, made to parade through the streets, their children slung onto spears alive. i am a female and i could never imagine me acting with the same amount of dignity and grace as they did. 400 men in the last battle of chamkaur including the tenth guru and his two sons who faced hundreds of thousands of moghuls and slaughtered so many with a single sword before dying on the battlefield. facing a sure death but doing it because they refused to convert. they were not only the bravest of brave, they were the most virtuous of the virtuous. they had so much love for god, showed so much dedication, each morning before sunrise, each evening during dusk through paath and meditation, through helping their fellow man in the gurdwarra doing seva or building our great gurdwaras and farming, that they were able to face death without an ounce of fear. boiled alive, churned in a wheel alive, chopped into pieces alive, Guru Gobind Singh jis children bricked alive...BY CHOICE. LITTLE CHILDREN with a MILLION times more sense and goodness in them than any of us.

these stories have made me cry a million tears because of the goodness, selflessness and purity of the hearts and souls of these people and this is just so rare these days. i have changed dramatically as a person, i have been told i glow with radiance and beauty when i step into a room, when before i was told i look like a {censored}. goodlooking, but a {censored}, which is what you see with most asian girls, i wonder why...temptations a messed up ting but if you can stand out of the crowd and do whats right no matter what anyone else is doing youll reap the rewards and wil have the respect and honour both in this world and the next to do anything that is in line with what the gurus taught and did.

people, especially all u fellow idiots in london, bham, manchester and notts at uni- cos ur wasting ur god given intelligence on bullshit that only gna get u screwed over... pleaseeee FIX UP n just read into our religion. i miss having mates that can sit down and have a laugh without alcohol and who see me as a sisterly figure and not just a "fit" girl. i never used my intelligence but ive realised its the only thing thats gna save people. listen to ur heads and not the voice of lust and temptation cos its all there to test u.

god bless mankind, may you bless them with your holy white light and show them the paath to true happiness and shaanti. Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguruji ki fateh.

and p.s ppl, there will be a war in our generation as there have been in every single generation before ours, what ur gna do when it comes is ur choice. aint noone {censored}ed or high gna be fighting by MY side cos ur gna lose.
 

shere punjab

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yes however did i say i drank smoke, had sex before marriage?? i was talking as an over all population, religon is going from our lifes...me im only 18 but iv got a girl that i love and will be getting married to soon...she is not jatt sikh like me but i question the cast system and dont follow it... religion is dying in the uk, theres nothing you or i can do... im not like most guys...i have respc for girls...just becuase i drink that means im not a true sikh :roll: get a grip on reality mate... if that were the case there wouldnt be many true sikhs left...times change...
 
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well i was having quite a laugh when reading the last 2 posts ...it was turning serious and sher veerji said he was just saying it generally !!!
well veers ...my viewpoint is ..i know how ideal a sikh should be ..i myself dont indulge in alcohol or smoke and also try to educate people abt the after effects if they turn into addicts

With this movement...i undeerstand as one of our veers pointed out ..how we should insist on pure sikhi...

but i have a point ...nowadays everywhere be it bombay or birmingham...the people who follow any religion do it to a extent or not do it at all....how if shere punjab stresses more on behaviour there are chances people not much into religion might drift away...there are people who want to die by religion but not live by it !!!!!

So its good to spread the idealism but not to a extent that it concentrates just on one aspect and forgets the reason behind the formation of the group !!!

The best example is of the Naga Sadhus ..once a feared race...they r also good at martial art ....but now ....?

The NAGA sadhus ..got too much into ritualism ...its said they take drugs too...i happen to find out hallucination to be the reason...Not all men are destined to be good at meditating and seeing things what a ralised soul would...now what they do is take heavy doses of cannabis and marijuana..and then are in a state ..when they experience meditation..in fact they just experience its feeling and not true DHYANA....its an illusion !

Many drifted away frm spiritual path are now a mere symbols of soldiers of the Nation ...of the ancient ages...they swirl their swords to just cut each other for ritual baths .!!! The same sword is passive towards the flesh of a musalmaan !!!

Belive me 5000 Naga saadus are capable of taking over kashmir ..and freeing it frm the cluthces of the terrorists...if they follow the True Path...they are ferocious and are feared !!!

So , keeping some things in mind .. i would say ..let it be a social movemnt now and then let it grow to a religious movement gradually
 
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Many of our crocodiles(Nihungs) have gne the way for cobras(Nagas).But Taksal,AKJ and missionarries are OK.Nirmalas are OK as in them like missionaries meat may not be tabbo.
 

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Belive me 5000 Naga saadus are capable of taking over kashmir ..and freeing it frm the cluthces of the terrorists...if they follow the True Path...they are ferocious and are feared !!!

thanks for information raj khalsa ji.could you please tell me how and when naga sadhu
originated.to which devi devta they worship.and if they are so deadly fighter why they did not fought against muslims?
 
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Naga Sadhus worship Shiva the more and claim to be old but akharas at Haridwar etc.in Hindus came into being duirng the time of Samrth Ramdas Ji.

Yes Naga Sadhus did protect Vrindavan being plundered by Abdalis and defeated them.

Say if naked person hug some Homosexual Pathan from back,that pathan will be bound to run away or else he may fear lose of his perfomern status and becomg a reciver.

But nude person may not fight in Kashmeer,where some time some areas are snow clad.They were not as forthcoming during Ram Janam Bhumit movment,Shiv Sainkiks were better.
 
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Satsriakaalji Saadh sangat,

Absolutely true ...vijay veerji....they were not of any help in ram janam bhoomi...in fact now they r just more like a liability to the hindus ...the reason is moving away from the Path .

Veerji, if they take this seriously and realise they r born to protect Hindustan, they can change...do u think a ritual to remain nude is important than the Nation ???

Sardar Bhagatsinghji sacrificed his kesh for the Nation ...and if a Saadh cannot ...i have serious doubts of him being a Saadh...Saadh stands for sacrifice...

what good is a huge population of naked men who r no good then doing hatha yoga...burying themselves in sand for days ..and standing for years ...????

Das would suggest them to join a circus ...the same goes with some of our Nihangs ..who do not understnad responsibilities ...

God willing some day das wishes ..there be a federation of the Nihangs and Naags ...and they pick up arms to protect this Nation !!!!

Our differences will stay if we stay alive ....otherwise we wont even have anyone to debate...!!!

I would say TIME FOR DHARAMYUDH HAS COME ....

IF so many illiterate musalmaans can understand their goals why cant these people talk of Yoga and niyam and saiyaam can ???

Give it a thought ...we can be anyone ...and everyone if we live but if we are fighting amongst ourselves and get killed or converted by these jehadis ..what will be the purpose and the end result ???

I apologise if i have said something that hurt anyone in our Sangat...

BHUL CHUK MUAAF KARNI

GAJ VAJ KE FATHE BULAAO ..
WAHEGURUJI KA KHALSA ..WAHEGURUJI KI FATEH
 

sikh78910

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My apologies, ur right i shouldnt have jumped to conclusions! i thought u meant u were in sp n did all that stuff. yeh ok i agree with that last point, and its refreshing to see someone thats different, i gues its just upsetting to know that theres hardly any true believers out there these days, like youngsters i mean. u only realise what drink, alcohol and cigarettes to to u when ur mind becomes so clouded that u cant even sit down to do daily paath cuz u fel so bad or ur mind just cant focus. im a big beliver in the negative effects alcohol can have on staying on the path of sikhi. after giving up drinking for 8 months, only now am i beginning to have a clear view on things and able to really sit and meditate which is the main thing ur supposed to do in sikhism to acheive oneness whith god. it shows how forgivving god is n if everyone could experience what im experinecing right now, they wouldnt be drinking alcohol n stuff ever again! i look around and see such a difference in myself as compared with others, im always the one laughing and feeling energetic n on a general high whereas others just seem to be stuck in the same old thinking. i still go out clubbing etc but being one of the few sober ones out i see now what bad effects it has and im sure any teen would agree. its mad how u just get caught up in stuff for so long n one day u stop, take a step back to watch instead of doing n u see something so horrifying, n wonder how u could have been that person in the first place. i just wish everone else could see aswell. :(
 
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Bhagat Singh was not as RSS tells of Him.He was not patriot but a communist.Motivated to socailsim above life.He was comrade of ideology which does not belives in boundaris of nation.
 
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Vijaydeep veerji as u mentioned :
"Bhagat Singh was not as RSS tells of Him.He was not patriot but a communist.Motivated to socailsim above life.He was comrade of ideology which does not belives in boundaris of nation."

By just judging what the RSS says u r just belittling a National Hero...i would request you to get to books of history. He may be a socialist , so was Subhash babu...but they understood that Nation was the priority.

To claim he wasnt a patriot is insulting his sacrifice. So what if he is a comerade ???? Do u know that the communism in India cannot go beyond labour rights ???

Well i wish these foolish hindus judge Gandhi in the same way, he was revolting for Africans ...suddenly he remembered in India...!!!

Sardar Bhagatsinghji was inspired by Sardar Kartarsinghji Sarabha who was a staunch nationalist....

I havent come across any record about Sardar Bhagatsinghji organising Communist programs ...as what these communists do....

I havent even come acorss records about him spreading this so called boundry less nationalism as claimed by our beloved veer vijaydeepji

I hope such statements are not taken seriously and belittle a man as great as him.

Sangatji, lets havea poll ....whether vijaydeepji is right or Sardar Bhagatsinghji's sacrifice for the Nation is right ????

Guru Raakha
 
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Satsriakaalji Saadh sangat


Vijaydeep veerji as u mentioned :
"Bhagat Singh was not as RSS tells of Him.He was not patriot but a communist.Motivated to socailsim above life.He was comrade of ideology which does not belives in boundaris of nation."

By just judging what the RSS says u r just belittling a National Hero...i would request you to get to books of history. He may be a socialist , so was Subhash babu...but they understood that Nation was the priority.

To claim he wasnt a patriot is insulting his sacrifice. So what if he is a comerade ???? Do u know that the communism in India cannot go beyond labour rights ???

Well i wish these foolish hindus judge Gandhi in the same way, he was revolting for Africans ...suddenly he remembered in India...!!!

Sardar Bhagatsinghji was inspired by Sardar Kartarsinghji Sarabha who was a staunch nationalist....

I havent come across any record about Sardar Bhagatsinghji organising Communist programs ...as what these communists do....

I havent even come acorss records about him spreading this so called boundry less nationalism as claimed by our beloved veer vijaydeepji

I hope such statements are not taken seriously and belittle a man as great as him.

Sangatji, lets havea poll ....whether vijaydeepji is right or Sardar Bhagatsinghji's sacrifice for the Nation is right ????

Guru Raakha

Well brother had what RSS said was OK and not false then Das would have been respecting Bhagat Singh Ji.RSS wants to make him role model of Hindutva,had he been so then das would have respected him.

Kindly read his ltters to his borther.He dies reading Lenin's book.

He wanted to have India made in term of Soviet.more detail if you want then you can ask CPI guys.

Neta Ji 's forwars block is not the part of BJP anyway but of Left Front.Same Left who called him dog of Tejo.

He said that even in Britihsers go it does not matter till wealth is not relocated to have nots India is not independant.(in firoz Shah Kotal ground speach perhaps).

He had nothing to do with Bharat Mata either(As Azad had).He was fisrt an Arya Samaji later becoing a left wing non beliver.Neither for Hindus nor for Sikhs but for left.

Sarbha Gadher Party wanted to bring rebellion vide inciting soliders.Adn Babbers Akali helped them.More is false propganda more after CPI stooges gained control of education and media after emergency of late 1970s.
 
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Satsriakaalji Saadh sangat


Vijaydeep veerji as u mentioned :
"Bhagat Singh was not as RSS tells of Him.He was not patriot but a communist.Motivated to socailsim above life.He was comrade of ideology which does not belives in boundaris of nation."

By just judging what the RSS says u r just belittling a National Hero...i would request you to get to books of history. He may be a socialist , so was Subhash babu...but they understood that Nation was the priority.

To claim he wasnt a patriot is insulting his sacrifice. So what if he is a comerade ???? Do u know that the communism in India cannot go beyond labour rights ???

Well i wish these foolish hindus judge Gandhi in the same way, he was revolting for Africans ...suddenly he remembered in India...!!!

Sardar Bhagatsinghji was inspired by Sardar Kartarsinghji Sarabha who was a staunch nationalist....

I havent come across any record about Sardar Bhagatsinghji organising Communist programs ...as what these communists do....

I havent even come acorss records about him spreading this so called boundry less nationalism as claimed by our beloved veer vijaydeepji

I hope such statements are not taken seriously and belittle a man as great as him.

Sangatji, lets havea poll ....whether vijaydeepji is right or Sardar Bhagatsinghji's sacrifice for the Nation is right ????

Guru Raakha

Das trys to post the reply again.

Read the letters of Bhagat Singh Ji to his borther and his speech to a gathering.

He said that India is not indepeandant by just Britishers going away but till have nots do not controll the resource.Before his death he was reading Lenins book.

RSS is not bringin a correct picture about him but had what they said was OK das would have support Bhagat.More info of him could be taekn from CPI guys.Chacha(paternal Uncle) of das was a naxlite.
Neta Ji's forward block is part of Left Front still in India.
 
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Satsriakaalji Saadh sangat,

Well brother vijaydeepji, first tell me why are we getting 3rd parties into picture, rss, cpi,.....etc...we are moving away from sardar bhagatsinghji's contribution to the country's freedom struggle and discussing what others thought !!!

Well i care 2 hoots for what one follows , the main issue is if the need arises this man who may have been anyone...even though he was atheist he had kept his kesh and only removed for a mission.Had the Naga and Nihangs thought..belive me we shall rule all over !!!! its a utopian dream !!!

naxalism , communism ..anyting will survive if we are present ....u and i are sanatan sikhs ..do we always think the same ??? i would say no...i dont have rss and cpi/m view points ....i appreciate responsible behaviour and unity for the motherland. Still we call each other brothers and if fate permits shall meet with open hearts and embrace each other !!!

My viewpoint towards Shere Punjab is ...i am highly impressed by them...whatever are their differences, they r doing more than any religious Hindustani. It would be wonderful if there is dharamic activity by them for sikhi prachaar.

RAAJ KAREGA KHALSA
 
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Das would like to add here that Nagas also fought Britishers in UP but could not succed while Nihungs under Baba Hanuman Singh Ji command also went to take help from Patiyala king but were killed en mass by truchury and Budhdal reaming guys flee to Deccan.

Later on return Niunhgs also carried out good oppsition to Britishers.

It happened that after independance media and books wrere under control of Left or psudo seculars.So people like Veer Saverkar,Moro Pant Pingle,Madan Lala Dhindra,Babber Akalis,Harnam Singh Tundilat or Our resspected Bhai Randheer Singh Ji (founder of AKJ) are overshadowed by left minded Bhagat Singh.

Some wanted to a have a free India on Indian standards while Bhagat Singh wanted it on Sovit Standard.While other great People from Hindu Mahasabha or Babber Side wanted to have unque and endiemic system.

And had left type things as per Bhagat Signh had come then we would have not been so free to shout the war cry of Jai Shri Ram.We would have been doing Lal Salam.
 
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I totally agree history has been distorted...the great Babbars like bhai Variyam singhji , and others have been forgotten ..i was lucky to know abt them when i bought this audio cassette frm a vendor at the Gurudwara ..its titled BaBBAR Akali..and relased frm Baba Bakala...i forgot the name of the Kavi...Joga singhji Jogi
If you ever get chance ..get the set of them...unfortunately i havent been able to get he whole set we dont get it here in mumbai ...Its in desi Punjabi..but amazing..!!!

Veerji...the Lal salaam in Bharat cannot go beyond religion ..live examples are Bengal and Kerala....bot hthe states have communist governence since devils age, and both are flooded with temples ...and the communist vidhayaks even start their political canvassing frm the temples ...

Veerji ..there is something in our country...a 1000 years of mughal marauders and 150 years of cunning british couldnt destroy the culture !!!

Research any country's heritage ..the onslaught has destroyed the very base ...Rome and Greece are the best examples. I too am now researching Filipino history ...they haeva strong mexcian influence now ...but long back have been buddhist.

Sardar Bhagatsinghji's family was sikh with Arya Samaji belief...and he had his kesh intact till the escape. He may have been a communist...but he still was faithful to his kesh..and only discarded them when things went out of hand..

The religious fabric is so strong ...come whatever...no one will stop us frm reciting jaikaaras.

I belive u should analyse things not with a rss/communist/macauliffe view ..but with a rational view....one thing i find strange is ..u very readily quote sangh and communist and other viewpoints.

Anyways ...its all upto u ....to each his own....!!!

Raaj karega khalsa
 
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Der Bro,

RSS wants to distort Histroy sometimes to make a devil as demigod.For Niuhngs Banda could be one such thing(das may not endrose).

But again with Bhagat Singh Ji things.Many AKJ people say that at end he became a member of AKJ after influnce of Bhai Randheer Singh Ji.Although his last photo in jail is of one with uncut hairs.(only Ramanand Sagar correctly made hs film with Bhagat being hung with uncut hairs and Arya Samajis making hue and cry that it is false while Sagar Sahib were correct(Late Sagar Sahib was great Sanatan Dharmi and made serials like Ramayana and Krishna).

Even if we belive that Bhagat became Sikh before death.Then also we can not justify his acts.

1.To Avenge Lala Lajpat Rai's death he killed the wrong person.Lala Ji was main reason for removal of idols from Darbar Sahib.He incited Udasis Mahants and Hindus and they forced so called lower castes/converts from Islam out of Darbar Sahib .He wanted to rove Gurmat as caste based Hindusim and people should go for Arya Samaj.

Had he(Bhagat) wanted,he would have joined Hindu Mahasabha or Aklis or Niuhngs but he chose socialist things.In Kerala and West Bengal you need to know that killing of cow for food and for Id is allowed and das wants to add another state called Tripura.

Not only this but they also allow ISS(of Madni in Kerala) and Bangldeshi guys to get into.

2.Coming back to Bhagat Singh.He did totaly foolish act of not killing any one and not fighting in Assembley when he hurdled bomb.JUst see the differnce ,what Azad did at Alfred Park.Das respects Azad,Bismil,Lahiri and Ashfaque but may not be same for Bhagat.
 
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I have no words for such a view if u call Bhagatsinghji and Bandasinghji Bahadur a devil...i can understand your love for islam and u might not like Bandaji for his destruction of samana, sirhind...since time and again u have said sikhs are muslims ..and likened a paedophile like mohamad to the status of a prophet...and again ..why do u bring rss in between ???? what is the importance of that organisation in each and everything ...?????

i have seen u time again quoting rss...i am not aware if u r the spokesman !!!

We are here talking sikhi..where does rss come in ????

Well u talk of CPI guys allowing beef...what good did yor BJP do ??? What is the difference ...???


Well u can call Bhagatji foolish !!!!! I understand one thing here...We indians are such people who never themselves can do their karma...but we start finding faults with people who did karma for us !!!

We are now worst than foolish when we r tolerating lalu, sonia etc...we dont even want to shout for our rights and we are trying to prove Sardar Bhagatsinghji foolish !!!!

I have come across 100s of hindu/sikhs cursing gandhi ..i too was one of them ..till it struck me ...by the way who was gandhi ???? he was no prophet ..he was a no one till the public made him god like !!

He dint invite people to belive him ...it was the people who did ....we are the choosers and if we choose eunuchs to lead us ..who is at fault ????

Now instead of atleast acknowledging Gandhi aas a mobiliser we overall even call him a loose character !!


Splashing muck over someone is what we Indians are experts at .

Come what may ...try what may...but Sardar Bhagatsinghji will be always great for people who will thank him for what he was .

At 21-23 boys of his age whistle at gals and see blue films ...He and Kartarsingh Sarabhaji gave their lives at that age !!!

So for u vijayji ..muhamad is great ! a man who rapes is great but Bhagatji is foolish !!! wonderful ! keep it up !
 
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Satsriakaalji Saadhsangat,
I have no words for such a view if u call Bhagatsinghji and Bandasinghji Bahadur a devil...i can understand your love for islam and u might not like Bandaji for his destruction of samana, sirhind...since time and again u have said sikhs are muslims ..and likened a paedophile like mohamad to the status of a prophet...and again ..why do u bring rss in between ???? what is the importance of that organisation in each and everything ...?????

i have seen u time again quoting rss...i am not aware if u r the spokesman !!!

We are here talking sikhi..where does rss come in ????

Well u talk of CPI guys allowing beef...what good did yor BJP do ??? What is the difference ...???


Well u can call Bhagatji foolish !!!!! I understand one thing here...We indians are such people who never themselves can do their karma...but we start finding faults with people who did karma for us !!!

We are now worst than foolish when we r tolerating lalu, sonia etc...we dont even want to shout for our rights and we are trying to prove Sardar Bhagatsinghji foolish !!!!

I have come across 100s of hindu/sikhs cursing gandhi ..i too was one of them ..till it struck me ...by the way who was gandhi ???? he was no prophet ..he was a no one till the public made him god like !!

He dint invite people to belive him ...it was the people who did ....we are the choosers and if we choose eunuchs to lead us ..who is at fault ????

Now instead of atleast acknowledging Gandhi aas a mobiliser we overall even call him a loose character !!


Splashing muck over someone is what we Indians are experts at .

Come what may ...try what may...but Sardar Bhagatsinghji will be always great for people who will thank him for what he was .

At 21-23 boys of his age whistle at gals and see blue films ...He and Kartarsingh Sarabhaji gave their lives at that age !!!

So for u vijayji ..muhamad is great ! a man who rapes is great but Bhagatji is foolish !!! wonderful ! keep it up !
Bro do not take das as wrong but one has to criticaly examine all.

Banda was not liked more for his starting own Guruship and other things.

Das said many thing similar to you in taksal realted thread.yet das will say that so far mnay people greater then bhagat are there.

if you want visit vjsingh.com and Arya Samji website.When das qoutes some Anti Sikhs then it may not mean that das always endrose them but if they some thing true then it is OK to get to knwo if a person at all is role model for us or not.
 
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Well vijay veerji...its not abt getting right and wrong...but why do we always go for anti sikh people ????

What importance does Arya samaj and their so called allegations have for us ???

We have greater beings in Sikhi to see as role models...like Akaali Phoola singhji , Dasve Paadshaahji is our most ideal role model...we know we can not be even near him...but we have such great people

Why are we bothered what rss says ...well as long as they dont call our Gurus and freedom fighters terrorists or insults them all is fine ! The cpm {censored}s have called our Gurus and freedomfighters terrorists !!! What do we do ???


The simranjeet mann group fought with shiv sena over burning effigies ...!! what could they do to christian organisations converting hindu/sikhs ???? and that too by fraud ...read this : Sikh Christian Evangelist in Punjab and also on SSI Canada ..i would thank both these website managers for giving such good info....


Vijayveerji ..pls dont misunderstand me...i take u as my brother too..i have told u ..we r both sanatan sikhs.,,we may have differences...but dare someone frm outside try to harm u ..our kirpaans wont stop to cut him !

Finding fault is easy ..very easy...but doing something with perfection is a herculean task !

These so called organisations dont understand ..the time has come to unite ...but we are intellectuals ...we atleast should...

Criticizing can be done ..but only with people of higher intellect...since it only then brings down the image of the person criticized....

We are just doing baani vilas hear...saying all good idealistic things...we r not going to the goal...what good are we ??

No one is perfect...we need to achieve it ..but that doesnt mean we just think negative..

It hard to bring together all the Hindustanis ...so many Panths ..so many beliefs, languages ....and when we just criticize ..we create an image...

Try to acknowledge...Its not a easy thing to go through torture at that age ..as Bhagatji...think..close yor eyes and think...how he must have faced...

My ideal will never be him...but i still love him..since he did all this for us ...what would have Bhagatsinghji got for getting us freedom???

He never wanted a post ...He never stood in elections ...He never had a dream to rule ...well is this not enough to be a yogi like.....he wwas much better than men in religious robes ...

I understand your point ..i too share the same opinion but ..still....u and i cannot even try todo what he did ..and all for the country's sake...

GurFateh


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