Sikh Girls Who Do Not Cut Their Head Hair, But Remove All Other Hair On Their Bodies

[spnadmin]

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Jeetijohal ji

With all respect -- are you addressing the words above to me. I hope not to have offended you in any way -- but stand by my words.

 

[Archived_Member5]

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In all my postings I endeavour to give positive and optimistic responses to any who deign to listen. Repetitively citing a situation as beyond repair without addressing what type of fanaticism you are referring to is ambiguous and likely to be misinterpreted if that is what you are referring to.

Some are fanatics of the SGGS, they preach its profound message with love and joy, itself a source of reassurance to despondent souls. Yes by and large our attitude, aura and presence of mind determine how the world responds to us favourable, respectfully, with utmost reverence or with disdain. So yes in that sense life be it heavenly or hell is of our own creation, or thought processes and dependent upon our own emotional intelligence.

I find your remark a tad impertinent, as if there stands a higher deity meting to all what he so deigns to grace. It isn’t. Life is a complex web of many paths all firing and creating stresses, fears, love or hatred and exacerbating at times a fragile situation.

Your remark is unfounded and false in its premise. It applies in civilised societies where there is equipoise and equanimity. It does not apply in such situations where there are obviously subversive factors at play, negative forces obviating the lack of good fortune or peace in any such predicament. It is a point with no a certain principle, therefore meaningless and contextual.

***You could not offend me, wilful ignorance is a malady readily cured by wisdom. ***

 

[Archived_Member5]

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Maya is false attachment to transient and illusory world materialism. Man plants seeds of effort and toil with love of his craft and a joy in his work and harvests abundantly the fruits of his labours, as an honest and virtuous living.

Man working for the love of gain, of money of a sense of vain aggrandisement with the accrual of possessions, friends or company is a man slave to worldliness than of grace.

The difference is vast as is the difference of one who is master of his mind and will and one who is a slave to wealth, materialism or the sin nature's...

 

[spnadmin]

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jeetijohal ji

Thank you for explaining.
***You could not offend me, wilful ignorance is a malady readily cured by wisdom. *** And apologies for not understanding your comments.

 

[pk70]

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jeetijohal ji

Thank you for explaining. And apologies for not understanding your comments.

No. Fanatics create the mud, vines and roots. I create mud, vines and roots. You create mud, vines and roots. Guruji says - it is all a mirage. Even if we say Oh well I agree with that, we remain trapped until we are no longer trapped.

Talking about it won't change things.(quote aad0002 Ji)
Aad jio, what is wrong with above said words of yours? Why to accept a net of words weaved around a picked up word that was actually a part of other categories?
Have you singled out fanatics? No, I don’t see it. If some people are habitual of lecturing others just because of righteous feeling they harbor twenty four hours, that doesn’t make them right. You were/are right on the money, kindly stick to it.

 

[BhagatSingh]

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No. Fanatics create the mud, vines and roots. I create mud, vines and roots. You create mud, vines and roots. Guruji says - it is all a mirage. Even if we say Oh well I agree with that, we remain trapped until we are no longer trapped.

Talking about it won't change things.

Ok let me rephrase. Can one be blinded by SGGS?

 

[spnadmin]

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Ok let me rephrase. Can one be blinded by SGGS?

Sri Guru Granth Sahib cannot blind one. One blinds oneself through perceptions rising from attachment and duality. This affects a very large group, as most of us are not realized in the sense of having gained higher/greater consciousness. In the question under discussion -- is a fanatic someone who is "blinded" by Sri Guru Granth Sahib -- one can overlook the possibility that the fanatic is "blinded" by a lot of other things in life, and it is their habit to remain blind. Their faulty perceptions abound: black and white thought processes, fixations on the moral shortcomings of other people, the need to dominant discussions with personal truths.

How can some one be "blinded" by the Guru -- that is a frightful thought. Those who are "blind" can find their "vision" through Sri Guru Granth Sahib.

 

[pk70]

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Ok let me rephrase. Can one be blinded by Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?9quote Bhagat Singh ji)

You haven't addressed the question to me, because it is related with Sree Guru Granth Sahib, my whole world light to pass through this journey, I must answer it as you have asked it in strict metaphorical way
" The answer is no. How a day can create darkness? If one closes eyes, it is not the fault of the day."

 

[Archived_Member4]

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Ok let me rephrase. Can one be blinded by SGGS?

This is what you call chronic state of pride. One of the maya that Guru ji speaks to eliminate.:yes:

 

[BhagatSingh]

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Ok let me rephrase. Can one be blinded by Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?9quote Bhagat Singh ji)

You haven't addressed the question to me, because it is related with Sree Guru Granth Sahib, my whole world light to pass through this journey, I must answer it as you have asked it in strict metaphorical way
" The answer is no. How a day can create darkness? If one closes eyes, it is not the fault of the day."

The closer you get to the light, the bigger your shadow becomes... and you don't have to close your eyes for this.
If there is day, there is night.
If there is light, there is dark.

 

[pk70]

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The closer you get to the light, the bigger your shadow becomes..
It depends from where light comes, there are positions in the light, shadow disappears, remember I used the word “day” in stead of light, I knew who was I conversing with. It has nothing to do with the light reflecting shadow, do you get it? You don’t.

. and you don't have to close your eyes for this.
Blaming others due to our inability to see is closing eyes.
If there is day, there is night.
Discussing about creating blindness has nothing to do what follows the day.
If there is light, there is dark.
Choices made make the difference

 

[Archived_Member5]

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Life choices, the decisions we make are tantamount and precursory to the life path we are set upon. Yet there is a predestined and determined fate for each individual. We are born to a destiny, and objective and end. It verges upon the nihilistic, but is true, astrology, biorhythms and such arts base their entire industry upon lunar phases, birth dates and a journeys end.

Bad choices may be predicated, in that circumstances do not warrant any other choice, and then it appears at times bad choices divert man from his righteous paths and higher consciousness. Overriding these factors especially if one finds ones ideals become cataclysmic to the adjudicating of surrounding partisan engineers.

Darkness, evil and negativity are accepted as the opposing polarity of Light, love and positivity. Man does not require the negative and until he eradicates it completely from his mindset, spirit and his world thereby, conflict within mans nature and his world remains. Many pessimists opine of the essential nature of evil and the demonic forces, this is a complete nonsense. Life is rather a task to eliminate this negativity manifest in hatred, anger, envy, lust, ambition that creates malice, toxifies the internal bio system and environment and creates the eternal battling between these two forces for dominance.

The indomitable virtues of Light illumine, Love purifies, and Truth enlightens minds, hearts and the world thereby. Its opposing traits of Darkness’s web of world confusion, negativity hindering any attempts for man to strengthen and fortify his spirit and surroundings thereby, and eradicating the evil natures of Maya or sin, the root cause of all evil inclinations leading to actions and perversity of truth and integrity in order to protect such base individuals than proliferate good and decency in humbly curing such natures and forces whereso they are found in the right path.

The world is a spectrum of rainbow hued colour from rich golden to darkest blue and royal purple. It is in times of negativity it is constrained by the two extreme as one of black and white. This is the hype and the falsehood upon where is based a thousand sins of destruction, social devastation, and extremism of mans corrupted inherent nature.

We may all fall short of this full glory of universal nirvana, yet defeat and failure is when we accept these negative forces of evil as part of the nature of mankind and inherent of this world. That is the man’s greatest defeat.

 

[KulwantK]

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Wahe Guru Everyone!
If I remember rightly, this whole thing started with a situation where a girl does not cut the hair on her head, but removes the hair on other parts of the body. From what I have been able to understand, it is not necessary to remove any hair at all, and so I would think that to be a very liberating thing, indeed. Not having to worry about waxing or other methods of hair removal. Indeed, we are enjoined to not remove any hair at all. Of course, we should be clean and neat, but do not remove the hair, God put it there for a reason. Perhaps a girl might ask, "But what about when I go swimming?" The answer is simple. Leotard and tights. It covers up any hair and keeps you warmer in the water than any bathing suit, and that is actually rather important from a health standpoint. Hypothermia can kill. You might be surprised how much warmer you will be when you wear the leotard and tights, and how much more you will benefit from your swimming session, than with just a skimpy bathing suit. It is also more modest, if you happen to be swimming in mixed company.

 

[pk70]

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Wahe Guru Everyone!
If I remember rightly, this whole thing started with a situation where a girl does not cut the hair on her head, but removes the hair on other parts of the body. From what I have been able to understand, it is not necessary to remove any hair at all, and so I would think that to be a very liberating thing, indeed. Not having to worry about waxing or other methods of hair removal. Indeed, we are enjoined to not remove any hair at all. Of course, we should be clean and neat, but do not remove the hair, God put it there for a reason. Perhaps a girl might ask, "But what about when I go swimming?" The answer is simple. Leotard and tights. It covers up any hair and keeps you warmer in the water than any bathing suit, and that is actually rather important from a health standpoint. Hypothermia can kill. You might be surprised how much warmer you will be when you wear the leotard and tights, and how much more you will benefit from your swimming session, than with just a skimpy bathing suit. It is also more modest, if you happen to be swimming in mixed company.

Very good idea is conveyed Kulwantk jio in context of avalanche of media and its advocacy of glamor due its relations with many booming businesses. Without judging what is right or wrong, just want to make a statement that as a man, I have always felt “ a natural beauty is more appealing than with artificial touches”.

 

[Archived_Member5]

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Excessive hair growth on the body on men or women is not natural of God ordained. Rather it is caused by artificial hormones present in genetically modified foods that are causing this generation to be hairier than the preceding generation. Grooming is essential for all to maintain the modern day body in perfect order. You cannot condemn the vulnerable to living with what is a disfiguring and unsightly marring of the physique. Obesity is a sign of excess over indulgence and should also be avoided as being gluttony, one of the damnable sins.

There is a delicate and fine line between obsessive preoccupation with the outer being, and necessary grooming. It is neither piety nor self discipline or an exceptional martyrdom to the Waheguru to appear in public with such a plight of predicament. ...

{***In actual fact God has sent help, in the form of a product called ‘’Depilonine’’ lotion manufactured by a company called Pharmathen. This product once applied permanently destroys hair root thus circumventing periodical attention to this matter of personal care. Available from specialist distributors of doctor’s prescription as the depilation industry banned it for being successful and immediately permanent. Be beautiful devout Punjabi Sikhs as your creator intended, radiant and resplendent with natural luminosity of virtue, honour and grace ...***}

Waheguru Ji ki Fateh ...

 

[Archived_Member4]

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Excessive hair growth on the body on men or women is not natural of God ordained. Rather it is caused by artificial hormones present in genetically modified foods that are causing this generation to be hairier than the preceding generation. Grooming is essential for all to maintain the modern day body in perfect order. You cannot condemn the vulnerable to living with what is a disfiguring and unsightly marring of the physique. Obesity is a sign of excess over indulgence and should also be avoided as being gluttony, one of the damnable sins.

There is a delicate and fine line between obsessive preoccupation with the outer being, and necessary grooming. It is neither piety nor self discipline or an exceptional martyrdom to the Waheguru to appear in public with such a plight of predicament. ...

{***In actual fact God has sent help, in the form of a product called ‘’Depilonine’’ lotion manufactured by a company called Pharmathen. This product once applied permanently destroys hair root thus circumventing periodical attention to this matter of personal care. Available from specialist distributors of doctor’s prescription as the depilation industry banned it for being successful and immediately permanent. Be beautiful devout Punjabi Sikhs as your creator intended, radiant and resplendent with natural luminosity of virtue, honour and grace ...***}

Waheguru Ji ki Fateh ...

Excessive hair growth on the body on men or women is not natural of God ordained.

Jeetijohal ji, what or which measuring stick are you using to call hair on anyones body excessive? And what is God ordained and what is not God ordained. If food is causing more hair to be on the body then you should thank God for this hair. More hair on the body does not hinder anyone in anyway.

Grooming is essential for all to maintain the modern day body in perfect order.

Removing of the hair in Sikhi is going against Guru jis Hukam. If you mean grooming as washing, combing, applying lotions to keep it healthy and strong this is acceptable in Sikhi.

Whats the difference between modern body and a body 500 years ago. What is a modern day body, which is in perfect order?

And what is perfect order?

You cannot condemn the vulnerable to living with what is a disfiguring and unsightly marring of the physique.

Who said its disfiguring and unsightly. Judging is what it looks like. Guru ji says to keep all hair. Is keeping all hair and not cutting them a sin.

There is a delicate and fine line between obsessive preoccupation with the outer being, and necessary grooming. It is neither piety nor self discipline or an exceptional martyrdom to the Waheguru to appear in public with such a plight of predicament. ...

Who is saying its plight of predicament?

{***In actual fact God has sent help, in the form of a product called ‘’Depilonine’’ lotion manufactured by a company called Pharmathen. This product once applied permanently destroys hair root thus circumventing periodical attention to this matter of personal care. Available from specialist distributors of doctor’s prescription as the depilation industry banned it for being successful and immediately permanent. Be beautiful devout Punjabi Sikhs as your creator intended, radiant and resplendent with natural luminosity of virtue, honour and grace ...***}

What help, who needs help, Why do you need help? This product go against Guru ji's hukam and is not be be used by a Sikh.

 

[BhagatSingh]

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The closer you get to the light, the bigger your shadow becomes..
It depends from where light comes, there are positions in the light, shadow disappears, remember I used the word “day” in stead of light, I knew who was I conversing with. It has nothing to do with the light reflecting shadow, do you get it? You don’t.

. and you don't have to close your eyes for this.
Blaming others due to our inability to see is closing eyes.
If there is day, there is night.
Discussing about creating blindness has nothing to do what follows the day.
If there is light, there is dark.
Choices made make the difference

No light, day same thing. If there was no day then there would be no night. Doesn't matter what follows. We define day based on night and night based on day. Lights and darks exist in both.
and no you did not answer my question.

 

[BhagatSingh]

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To all Sikh girls, read the following reply.

Wahe Guru Everyone!
If I remember rightly, this whole thing started with a situation where a girl does not cut the hair on her head, but removes the hair on other parts of the body. From what I have been able to understand, it is not necessary to remove any hair at all, and so I would think that to be a very liberating thing, indeed. Not having to worry about waxing or other methods of hair removal. Indeed, we are enjoined to not remove any hair at all. Of course, we should be clean and neat, but do not remove the hair, God put it there for a reason. Perhaps a girl might ask, "But what about when I go swimming?" The answer is simple. Leotard and tights. It covers up any hair and keeps you warmer in the water than any bathing suit, and that is actually rather important from a health standpoint. Hypothermia can kill. You might be surprised how much warmer you will be when you wear the leotard and tights, and how much more you will benefit from your swimming session, than with just a skimpy bathing suit. It is also more modest, if you happen to be swimming in mixed company.

one question: what about eyerbrows and the moustache?

 

[BhagatSingh]

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Excessive hair growth on the body on men or women is not natural of God ordained.

Hukumai under sabh ko bahar hukum na koi.
before you think about what is God ordained and what is not, think about how mighty god is.
mathematically this would be
almighty = infinite might = infinite power = infinite control
and nothing is beyond infinity except Him/Her.

Rather it is caused by artificial hormones present in genetically modified foods that are causing this generation to be hairier than the preceding generation.

I would like you see the studies that show that genetically modified foods encourage hair growth.

Grooming is essential for all to maintain the modern day body in perfect order.

Grooming is essential for personal hygiene not perfect order??....
but I see the underlying argument about being presentable in... business, perhaps.

You cannot condemn the vulnerable to living with what is a disfiguring and unsightly marring of the physique. Obesity is a sign of excess over indulgence and should also be avoided as being gluttony, one of the damnable sins.

I disagree, obesity may be inherited.

There is a delicate and fine line between obsessive preoccupation with the outer being, and necessary grooming. It is neither piety nor self discipline or an exceptional martyrdom to the Waheguru to appear in public with such a plight of predicament. ...

well, said. We must not obsess. but its funny how our community won't look down upon people who obsess about their uncut hair... :whisling: *points to self*

{***In actual fact God has sent help, in the form of a product called ‘’Depilonine’’ lotion manufactured by a company called Pharmathen. This product once applied permanently destroys hair root thus circumventing periodical attention to this matter of personal care. Available from specialist distributors of doctor’s prescription as the depilation industry banned it for being successful and immediately permanent. Be beautiful devout Punjabi Sikhs as your creator intended, radiant and resplendent with natural luminosity of virtue, honour and grace ...***}

Waheguru Ji ki Fateh ...

ooh that is interesting. well, to me the fact taht it can destroy hair follicles completely, is interesting from a biological stanpoint.

Fateh!

 

[BhagatSingh]

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Removing of the hair in Sikhi is going against Guru jis Hukam...

ਕਬੀਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਇਕ ਸਿਉ ਕੀਏ ਆਨ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਜਾਇ ॥
कबीर प्रीति इक सिउ कीए आन दुबिधा जाइ ॥
Kabīr parīṯ ik si▫o kī▫e ān ḏubiḏẖā jā▫e.
Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart.
ਭਾਵੈ ਲਾਂਬੇ ਕੇਸ ਕਰੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਘਰਰਿ ਮੁਡਾਇ ॥੨੫॥
भावै लांबे केस करु भावै घररि मुडाइ ॥२५॥
Bẖāvai lāʼnbe kes kar bẖāvai gẖarar mudā▫e. ||25||
You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. ||25||

Whats the difference between modern body and a body 500 years ago. What is a modern day body, which is in perfect order?

good one! :yes: