Sikh Girls Who Do Not Cut Their Head Hair, But Remove All Other Hair On Their Bodies
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Blinding sunlight: when it is really bright outside ... during the day... because my eyes are very sensitive to bright lights, I am literally blinded! I cannot see where i am going.
This is one reason why I would take winter over summer anyday. In winter here in canada the days are often just as bright as the nights.
maybe I am not good with metaphors but I am not in denial (even when i say this)
what about fanatics? They are blind
ok fair enough. how can a day create darkness? well, I explained the shadow bit but i did not mention darkness initially. I mentioned blindness so lets take a look at how a day can blind someone.
Blinding sunlight: when it is really bright outside ... during the day... because my eyes are very sensitive to bright lights, I am literally blinded! I cannot see where i am going.
This is one reason why I would take winter over summer anyday. In winter here in canada the days are often just as bright as the nights.
maybe I am not good with metaphors but I am not in denial (even when i say this)
what about fanatics? They are blind
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Well, at least I don't make baseless assumptions.
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ok fair enough. how can a day create darkness? well, I explained the shadow bit but i did not mention darkness initially. I mentioned blindness so lets take a look at how a day can blind someone.
Blinding sunlight: when it is really bright outside ... during the day... because my eyes are very sensitive to bright lights, I am literally blinded! I cannot see where i am going.
I used the word “day” instead of Sun light, I am aware of the fact that there are some people determined to ignore hint and get in hair splitting. So here you have this kind of example brought in when there was not even mention of it literally. No offense, such argument is laughable in context of the metaphor used.
This is one reason why I would take winter over summer anyday. In winter here in canada the days are often just as bright as the nights.
That doesn’t change the basic fact, at night special aid of light is used even in Canada, I will be wondered if where you live, people do not turn on lights at night. If so, still you are generalizing a well accepted fact attaching to your special place, and that doesn’t take metaphorical value of the day away any way.
maybe I am not good with metaphors but I am not in denial (even when i say this)
. It becomes denial when a person, going away from metaphor and states” What is the difference between day and night” You are in denial doubtlessly. You are bent upon blaming SGGS ji just based on inability of others to seek guidance from SGGS ji, that alone prove that you are not open enough to see if blame should lie on others shoulders instead of SGGS Ji
what about fanatics? They are blind
Some time while we call others fanatics, we ourselves behave like fanatics in different positions
ok fair enough. how can a day create darkness? well, I explained the shadow bit but i did not mention darkness initially. I mentioned blindness so lets take a look at how a day can blind someone.
Blinding sunlight: when it is really bright outside ... during the day... because my eyes are very sensitive to bright lights, I am literally blinded! I cannot see where i am going.
This is one reason why I would take winter over summer anyday. In winter here in canada the days are often just as bright as the nights.
maybe I am not good with metaphors but I am not in denial (even when i say this)
what about fanatics? They are blind
ok fair enough. how can a day create darkness? well, I explained the shadow bit but i did not mention darkness initially. I mentioned blindness so lets take a look at how a day can blind someone.
Blinding sunlight: when it is really bright outside ... during the day... because my eyes are very sensitive to bright lights, I am literally blinded! I cannot see where i am going.
I used the word “day” instead of Sun light, I am aware of the fact that there are some people determined to ignore hint and get in hair splitting. So here you have this kind of example brought in when there was not even mention of it literally. No offense, such argument is laughable in context of the metaphor used.
This is one reason why I would take winter over summer anyday. In winter here in canada the days are often just as bright as the nights.
That doesn’t change the basic fact, at night special aid of light is used even in Canada, I will be wondered if where you live, people do not turn on lights at night. If so, still you are generalizing a well accepted fact attaching to your special place, and that doesn’t take metaphorical value of the day away any way.
maybe I am not good with metaphors but I am not in denial (even when i say this)
. It becomes denial when a person, going away from metaphor and states” What is the difference between day and night” You are in denial doubtlessly. You are bent upon blaming SGGS ji just based on inability of others to seek guidance from SGGS ji, that alone prove that you are not open enough to see if blame should lie on others shoulders instead of SGGS Ji
what about fanatics? They are blind
Some time while we call others fanatics, we ourselves behave like fanatics in different positions
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You very well do. Look at, blaming SGGS on the basis of other people's inability to understand Guru Message ! What more proof you need of your assumptions?
You very well do. Look at, blaming SGGS on the basis of other people's inability to understand Guru Message ! What more proof you need of your assumptions?
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What's your point?
Guru Gobind Singh Sahib jis Hukam was a Sikh must keep hair unshorn.
What's your point?
Guru Gobind Singh Sahib jis Hukam was a Sikh must keep hair unshorn.
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Alhtough, I don't think that they dont understand it, its more of a "blind faith". SGGS does nothing to prevent that, or does it?
If they don't understand SGGS who's fault is it?
Alhtough, I don't think that they dont understand it, its more of a "blind faith". SGGS does nothing to prevent that, or does it?
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he is not the present guru, is he? I maybe mistaken.:yes:
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This topic is now restored.
Note: Bhagat Singh Ji is now officially warned not to stir up emotions with his mischievous comments here or there. Let us behave like a grown-ups other wise we will miss the point we try to make. Thank You.
This topic is now restored.
Note: Bhagat Singh Ji is now officially warned not to stir up emotions with his mischievous comments here or there. Let us behave like a grown-ups other wise we will miss the point we try to make. Thank You.
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You will not find publicised studies of genetically modified foods causing many diseases amongst which excessive hair growth is one as it would incriminate those corporations and expose them to being sued by persons who descend from smooth skinned family’s but are themselves walking talking furballs. It would also decrease depilation industry profits, unconducive to good business practice for such persons. I think you can call it if you will, ‘’The Lord God gives you malady, and He grants you remedy to cure you of your disease’’ is you seek to place it is a scriptural or religious context.
I have witnessed little girls attending the local Guru Gobind Singh Ji Khalse College with furry faces whose parents have relented and spend hideous amounts of money in curing the child’s disfigurement. I value tradition and culture as much as anyone else but always with the bounds of reason. This present generation is undeniably furrier than the preceding. We have no desire to have our ladies and young daughters being made objects of ridicule in a society obsessed with facades and outward appearance than inward substance.
I champion virtue, morality, wisdom and beauty. Beauty cannot exist where there is no moral mettle, as it is soon found to be a gilded dung pie. In all fairness, I respect your opinions as gentlemen of the old guard, but I could not expose my child or any other to such affliction. Why would God make humans furry, there is no reasoning for a body to have anything other than fine down to inhibit loss of body heat and decrease in body temperature. If it becomes thick and excessive it must be dealt with.
Hair is a woman’s crowning glory. Long tresses tied and bound are a highly coveted attribute of beauty given to the few. Samson was shorn to diminish his power, not as a fashion statement, be it icon or victim.
Respectfully ...
You will not find publicised studies of genetically modified foods causing many diseases amongst which excessive hair growth is one as it would incriminate those corporations and expose them to being sued by persons who descend from smooth skinned family’s but are themselves walking talking furballs. It would also decrease depilation industry profits, unconducive to good business practice for such persons. I think you can call it if you will, ‘’The Lord God gives you malady, and He grants you remedy to cure you of your disease’’ is you seek to place it is a scriptural or religious context.
I have witnessed little girls attending the local Guru Gobind Singh Ji Khalse College with furry faces whose parents have relented and spend hideous amounts of money in curing the child’s disfigurement. I value tradition and culture as much as anyone else but always with the bounds of reason. This present generation is undeniably furrier than the preceding. We have no desire to have our ladies and young daughters being made objects of ridicule in a society obsessed with facades and outward appearance than inward substance.
I champion virtue, morality, wisdom and beauty. Beauty cannot exist where there is no moral mettle, as it is soon found to be a gilded dung pie. In all fairness, I respect your opinions as gentlemen of the old guard, but I could not expose my child or any other to such affliction. Why would God make humans furry, there is no reasoning for a body to have anything other than fine down to inhibit loss of body heat and decrease in body temperature. If it becomes thick and excessive it must be dealt with.
Hair is a woman’s crowning glory. Long tresses tied and bound are a highly coveted attribute of beauty given to the few. Samson was shorn to diminish his power, not as a fashion statement, be it icon or victim.
Respectfully ...
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Who said Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the present Guru.
If this is your logic behind this discussion. Then you have already accepted that Harmandar Sahib is not a Sikh Gurdwara because the present Guru didn't say it. Also you have already accepted that Akal Takhat has nothing to do with Sikhi because the present Guru did not say it. Futhermore the 40 Singh that Sacrificed there lives in the battle field for Sikhi has nothing to do with Sikhi because the present Guru did not say it. In addition Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji does not mention anything about the sixth, seventh, eighth, tenth Guru and whoever says Guru Hargobind Sahib ji, Guru Har Rai Sahib ji, Guru HarKrishan Sahib ji, and Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji are the Gurus jyot and the same jyot that lived in Guru Nanak Dev ji are lairs and trying to destroy Sikhi because according to your logic the present Guru did not say it.
Who said Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the present Guru.
If this is your logic behind this discussion. Then you have already accepted that Harmandar Sahib is not a Sikh Gurdwara because the present Guru didn't say it. Also you have already accepted that Akal Takhat has nothing to do with Sikhi because the present Guru did not say it. Futhermore the 40 Singh that Sacrificed there lives in the battle field for Sikhi has nothing to do with Sikhi because the present Guru did not say it. In addition Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji does not mention anything about the sixth, seventh, eighth, tenth Guru and whoever says Guru Hargobind Sahib ji, Guru Har Rai Sahib ji, Guru HarKrishan Sahib ji, and Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji are the Gurus jyot and the same jyot that lived in Guru Nanak Dev ji are lairs and trying to destroy Sikhi because according to your logic the present Guru did not say it.
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In the beginning there were no nighttimes or darkness but constant daylight where the Sun didn’t cease to shine. In the Garden of Ayodya, or Eden. Darkness is symbolic of mans casting out of Swarg and into the world to live by his own means and find his spiritual journey back to the state of Nirvana.
Many cynics imply good cannot exist without evil, or day cannot be without the night. This is a false concept. The night and evil is a reflection of the tempestuous nature of the dual forces that govern this world. It is not what God intended or created as perfection at the outset.
In the beginning there were no nighttimes or darkness but constant daylight where the Sun didn’t cease to shine. In the Garden of Ayodya, or Eden. Darkness is symbolic of mans casting out of Swarg and into the world to live by his own means and find his spiritual journey back to the state of Nirvana.
Many cynics imply good cannot exist without evil, or day cannot be without the night. This is a false concept. The night and evil is a reflection of the tempestuous nature of the dual forces that govern this world. It is not what God intended or created as perfection at the outset.
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Sat shri akal,
Sat shri akal,
oops! burning post
The fool begs for explanation:yes:
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Jeetijohal ji you continue to call having alots of hair a disease disfigurement and that this generation is hairy than the previous. How is having more hair than the previous generation a bad thing or a disfigurement. Am I failing to see something that you can?
Why would God kill so many humans? Is it to keep the world balanced and not over crowd the world.
Hair doesn't hinder anyone so why does it have to be dealt with in the way you are suggesting?
All of this is just judgement of others. And if you fall to these judgements then you have failed as a Sikh. It sounds harsh but its so true. The public doesn't see many things as right, but that don't mean we give into these low self-esteem people. I get weird looks because i wear a dastar and if I was weak in my faith and decided the next day to take it off then as a Sikh i would have fail miserably. There is a shabad that every time this discussion comes up it comes straight to my mind.
Jeetijohal ji you continue to call having alots of hair a disease disfigurement and that this generation is hairy than the previous. How is having more hair than the previous generation a bad thing or a disfigurement. Am I failing to see something that you can?
Why would God kill so many humans? Is it to keep the world balanced and not over crowd the world.
Hair doesn't hinder anyone so why does it have to be dealt with in the way you are suggesting?
All of this is just judgement of others. And if you fall to these judgements then you have failed as a Sikh. It sounds harsh but its so true. The public doesn't see many things as right, but that don't mean we give into these low self-esteem people. I get weird looks because i wear a dastar and if I was weak in my faith and decided the next day to take it off then as a Sikh i would have fail miserably. There is a shabad that every time this discussion comes up it comes straight to my mind.
If you desire to play this game of love with Me, then step onto My Path with your head in hand. When you place your feet on this Path, give Me your head, and do not pay any attention to public opinion. || 20 || ang 1412
If you have true love for the Guru then accepting the hair on the body is no problem. Its something you don't even think about and it doesn't have to be done just let your body do the work. I know I have repeated this numerous times, but I'll continue to repeat because Guru Sahib made it his Hukam for Sikhs to keep hair unshorn and we cannot overlook it.
If you have true love for the Guru then accepting the hair on the body is no problem. Its something you don't even think about and it doesn't have to be done just let your body do the work. I know I have repeated this numerous times, but I'll continue to repeat because Guru Sahib made it his Hukam for Sikhs to keep hair unshorn and we cannot overlook it.
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Here is another shabad that speaks on these issues.
Here is another shabad that speaks on these issues.
In an instant, you change into various costumes, like a juggler; you are entangled in emotional attachment and sin. You gaze here and there upon the expanse of Maya; you are intoxicated with attachment to Maya. || 5 || You act in corruption, and put on ostentatious shows, but without awareness of the Shabad, you have fallen into confusion.You suffer great pain from the disease of egotism. Following the Guru.s Teachings, you shall be rid of this disease. || 6 || ang 906
Like Guru Sahib says we wear various costumes, we change into different people one second and then another the other second. In the morning a person cuts or shaves the hair off then reads Gurbani. The maya has a thick cloud infront of your eyes and you become the juggler. Guru sahib at the end tells us how we can get rid of this thick cloud and its by simply following Guru sahibs teachings.
Like Guru Sahib says we wear various costumes, we change into different people one second and then another the other second. In the morning a person cuts or shaves the hair off then reads Gurbani. The maya has a thick cloud infront of your eyes and you become the juggler. Guru sahib at the end tells us how we can get rid of this thick cloud and its by simply following Guru sahibs teachings.
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You put great effort into it that I will give you. Good stuff. Next time try harder.
Thanks for twisting what I said and what I have told you before. You simplified what I said way too much and then used it as a basis of your twisted argument.
You put great effort into it that I will give you. Good stuff. Next time try harder.
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if all we had was good. then good would become meaningless and in fact, it wouldn't be considered good. its all relative, also tall and short, fat and skinny, even how hairy someone is, is all relative.
How can one say that God did not intend something when God is in fact, the mightiest of all. Only his intention rules. taht is how great he is. Unless you mean a different God who is not the almighty.
think about it.
Many cynics are in fact correct. If all we had was "day" then it wouldn't be considered a day. The fact that night arrives, makes that bright part of 24 hours, the day.
if all we had was good. then good would become meaningless and in fact, it wouldn't be considered good. its all relative, also tall and short, fat and skinny, even how hairy someone is, is all relative.
How can one say that God did not intend something when God is in fact, the mightiest of all. Only his intention rules. taht is how great he is. Unless you mean a different God who is not the almighty.
Can one force exist without the other? Would you even call it a force?
think about it.
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Nope! no twisting whats so ever. Just simple logic used to prove a point. Accusations mean nothing right now.
Nope! no twisting whats so ever. Just simple logic used to prove a point. Accusations mean nothing right now.
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So how do you know? What is your source? How do you arrive at your conclusion? What evidence have you collected, if any?
(note: they are not rhetorical questions)
(note: they are not rhetorical questions)
but our hair is different than fur. It is good that you asked why God would make us more hairy but no one can answer that. You have yet to show how he is making us more hairy. :yes:
I based a character of mine on taht idea. Kes - Old Concepts by ~prince911 on deviantART - cut his hair and he cannot do anything...
So how do you know? What is your source? How do you arrive at your conclusion? What evidence have you collected, if any?
(note: they are not rhetorical questions)
So how do you know? What is your source? How do you arrive at your conclusion? What evidence have you collected, if any?
(note: they are not rhetorical questions)
Bravo! I see some truth in this. In fact, humans "lost fur" for a reason. (I can explain and back up if needed)
but our hair is different than fur. It is good that you asked why God would make us more hairy but no one can answer that. You have yet to show how he is making us more hairy. :yes:
yay samson!!
I based a character of mine on taht idea. Kes - Old Concepts by ~prince911 on deviantART - cut his hair and he cannot do anything...
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Your logic is overly simplified, in the real world it falls apart. No more comments form me on this.
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