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I have enjoyed the discussion and marked thanks to the comments I think have direction required but all have contributed to liven the story. We are discussing the subject 'Homeland for Sikhs' however we are basing our comments on present day inference of the state of Punjab under Indian administration.
I beieve we have lost direction completely of what is required for a functioning state. I am not an expert in this field but have experience of designing and building machines. I will if I may liken this to a machine. And simpler the machine easier it is to repair if it misfunctions for any reason.
If the machine is designed and built on sound sceintific and engineering principles it will function and survive the rigours of operation and deliver the necessary output for a span of time.
Similarly a state would have to be based on equally sound principles. Guru Gobind Singh, Banda Bahadur, Ranjit Singh all knew that and they were the people whe were true to a faith uncovered by the Nanaks and associates.
One of these principles was being true to yourself and to god.
I believe this is a profound statement for a Sikh and if he/she believes in this it does not leave much else wanting to build a family or a state.
Let us see what we require for a 'self sustaining state'
1. Resources a) Manpower, b)Material, c) Management, d) trade
2. Alegiance/Loyalty - to a) State, b) Leader, c) Government, d) faith
3. Security - a) Law, b) Police, c) Army
If the leader is not true to himself/lord there is no hope in hell of him trying to instil loyalty in his people. This I believe what disintegrated the Sikh Empire? after Ranjit Singh when the followers preferred greed and sacrificed their allegiance to the leader - may the leader was not true to the cause anyway!
Today we cannot even manage a government because people involved like to have their pictures posted all over than deeds and consequences of their deeds.
The police for some reason believe that they only need to count money than uphold law.
The law courts work on basis of British Law may be with some modifications but lack morality - which I think should come from basic Sikh beliefs.
Now we have Resources (Punjab) is a net contributor to Indian economy and second only to Delhi so even with its wings clipped to not fly it can be considered to be viable a state.
It may need to import material - which country does not. Management at personal level and 'farm' type industry level must be good enough to be #2 in the country. Management after that goes to 'greed ridden' humans with elephant heads as someone put it elswhere - who have no consideration for people outside their 'family panth'
So why we need a sikh state (there are many types of Sikhs but values shared with Nanaks) is because at least these people Hindu, Muslim, Sikh who I hope know who huddled them into sikh fold and what he taught them. It is easier to establish a law that has some common moral value for the 'community' than with people who do not have that belief! Ranjit Singh achieved it so why cant we?
BECAUSE we are not 'true to a faith' a faith that brings us together - that faith that the British took us away from by offering greed (like rishwat that we are experts at now - at all levels), 'humans with elephant heads' are taking it away from us now by exploiting a minority who can be likend to ones who betrayed Ranjt Singh and his followers, by fabricating doubts in what was established by Guru Gobind Singh and other smaller issuesI hope all will recall the story about a mother who takes her son to a wise man for help to stop the child eating too many sweets. The wise man sends them back and asks them to come back in two week's time - when they return the wise man pronunces 'son too many sweets are not good for you' ! Mother puzzled and asked him sir you could have said that two weeks ago - no said the wise man I also ate sweets at that time!
Can we find that wise man/woman for our leader?
Some one who advocates very few rules, emphasis on truth and morality based on Nanaks' teachings - so we do not tangle ourselves in net of laws.
