the whole of sikhism is a destiny to break away from cycles of birth and death
Hmm I thought that was Hinduism.Out of the many facets of Sikhism, my thoughts were that it was more important to value this one and only life, rather than get caught up in some big picture. I think its quite simple, just live a good honest life and make a difference to those around you.
not going to heaven or hell where ego still exist in maya..
But this maya is where we make our difference, within this maya is life, real life, cars, buildings, people, animals. It puts more importance on where you are, rather than who you are. Ego exists everywhere, to say there is some special place where we are all perfect, takes away from the understanding and wisdom which must be learned before one can put the ego where it belongs. What good is everlasting life if it has to be spent without crossing a boundary (thank you Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade), better to change yourelf surely..
that salvation or mukti cannot be earned easily just by doing goodness only
Do you think that truly enlightened people give a damn about salvation or mukti? Do you think truly enlightened people count the goodness they do to see how close they are to earning anything? I think those that are truly enlightened focus on doing the best they can for the people round them, for Creation, and if Creator feels they have earned anything, than salvation/mukti, or no salvation/mukti is all the same.
true heaven in sikhism is such khand located beyond maya-universal mind
all sounds a bit selfish, I find true heaven is the ability to give without thought of receipt, to act within Hukam, and to savour the connection with Creator.
all of this should be earned thru meditation in a human birth..in meditation we must be able to rise higher beyond the 3 gunas,, or beyond where there is no ego,, or enter into the 4th stage consciousness
and then do what exactly? What do we do then? start a Dera?
since in sikhism we believe in laws of causes and affects, karmas.. whatever that is earned in meditation will be taken after death..
not all of us my friend, Creation is the biggest judge and leveller without involving Creator. Smoke, you get cancer, drink, you get liver problems, fornicate casually, you get STD's, there is nothing mysterious or magical about any of this, its common sense.
that is the ticket to cross maya, maya is a snake a very cunning shadow counterpart of mind and body..it will always show you temporal not permanent things like artificial heavens and hells..it creates deceptions and confusion.. to rise higher we need the lord s GRACE here.. thru the true love to god grace is earned.. return love of god is called grace,, this is the very mystery that will burn all of our sins before we go beyond the 3 worlds of maya..without the grace of god we still be wondering in maya.. those who love god they will earn true mukti or salvation, but those who love maya death will never leave them
Maya is where Creation is, its where we can embrace Creation, I do not recall the tenth master in rags looking for enlightenment, the general depiction is a man that lived in the world, that accepted the problems of the world, that tried to do something about them, whilst enjoying Creation, whislt hunting, holding court, with poets and culture.
Can you not see that this path is the very path we should be avoiding, we should not be scared of Maya, like a child is scared of fire, we should be using it, embracing it, just not be sold by it, know it for what it is, runnning away , in my view, defeats the very purpose of why we are here.
Why are we here? In my view not to find the 10th door, the third eye, the 7th toilet, etc etc, its really very simple, to do Creators work, to be an ambassador of Creator on earth, to do the will of Creator, and to be happy and content along the way, to not make falsehoods a God, to take things as they come, to see value in things other than material, :interestedkudi: